[Chihiro94]

Buying a new phone, and stuck between these two. Basically comes down to the 800 being on a cheaper contract, but the 820 newer with Windows 8 (?) Not sure how overly important that is, guess I'm a bit concerned they'll stop supporting the 800 since it's older

Just wondering if anyone has previous experience with either, or about how much of an issue not having windows 8 would be. Thanks in advance.

[The Lord Lucan]

820 is the best to go for if your getting tied into a long contract and it can be had quite cheaply per month if your willing to pay a little for the phone upfront. Win 8 Mobile is really good, live tiles are a lovely to use etc but apps or the lack of them is the biggest let down. Although I'd imagine this will get better as time goes on but the app development bias will stay Apple & Andriod for some time.
The camera on the 820 (id imagine same on the 800?) isn't as good as the one on the iPhone 5/Galaxy S3. Other than that its a bloody great phone. I can't really compare the 800 to it as I've only ever spent any amount of time with the 820.

[alan1302]

Don't go for the 800 now as it's on an unsupported Windows Phone 7 OS and won't be getting any new updated and many of the newer apps will only work on the Windows 8 Phone apps.

[DANCE OF DEATH]

Originally Posted by alan1302

Don't go for the 800 now as it's on an unsupported Windows Phone 7 OS and won't be getting any new updated and many of the newer apps will only work on the Windows 8 Phone apps.

You are wrong about the Windows Phone 7 OS been unsupported. Windows 7.8 OS will be released in the first Q1 2013 for Windows 7 phones and it will have many features that have been released on Windows 8 Phone.

[jabbamk1]

Originally Posted by DANCE OF DEATH

You are wrong about the Windows Phone 7 OS been unsupported. Windows 7.8 OS will be released in the first Q1 2013 for Windows 7 phones and it will have many features that have been released on Windows 8 Phone.

This is like advising someone to buy a symbian phone 6 months ago...

[flagpole]

the 820 by a mile.

[alan1302]

Originally Posted by DANCE OF DEATH

You are wrong about the Windows Phone 7 OS been unsupported. Windows 7.8 OS will be released in the first Q1 2013 for Windows 7 phones and it will have many features that have been released on Windows 8 Phone.

It's mainly the look though...main thing is that apps/games will only work best if they have been developed for Windows Phone 8 so developers are not going to want to develop two versions of each app so will concentrate on Windows Phone 8 so Windows Phone 7 is dead...would make a great phone still but if you are wanting news apps made for it then it's a no go.

[1saintly]

Originally Posted by DANCE OF DEATH

You are wrong about the Windows Phone 7 OS been unsupported. Windows 7.8 OS will be released in the first Q1 2013 for Windows 7 phones and it will have many features that have been released on Windows 8 Phone.

Not what ive been reading, over the last month whilst looking for a new phone.
The update from 7.5 - 7.8 is a minor one.

The new features in the future will be Win 8 only.

http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/fo...-7-8-features-

The 7.5 is missing out on some basic functions you would expect from a phone today.
I would have happily bought a windows phone but couldnt afford a Win 8 one

The new Nokia 620 is going to be released next year, prices seem to be about £160
But with no confirmation on a release date.
http://www.nokia.com/global/products/phone/lumia620/

[gomezz]

Originally Posted by 1saintly

The 7.5 is missing out on some basic functions you would expect from a phone today.

Such as? I have my eye on both of these phones for when my old Symbian packs up (Apple and Android need not apply).

[1saintly]

Originally Posted by gomezz

Such as? I have my eye on both of these phones for when my old Symbian packs up (Apple and Android need not apply).

Some of these will be or have been sorted, in present or future updates, but still im holding out for a few yrs till i go buy windows phone.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Here-...ne-7.5_id30255

As i have said i did want one and will still buy one in the future., so not dissing windows, just needs a bit of tweaking yet.

Miss out 7.8 phones and get a win8 one.

[sonicshadow]

The Lumia 800 is an excellent phone, now going for between £130 - £150. Depends how bothered you are about apps.

[clonmult]

Originally Posted by jabbamk1

This is like advising someone to buy a symbian phone 6 months ago...

Not really; I'd still advise people to go for an 808 if they want a decent camera, as the units in every other phone on the market are varying degrees of useless. And surprisingly, there isn't anything available on contract at the moment than can even equal the >2 year old Nokia N8 for stills (that includes the 920). No reason why my 808 won't keep working for a good few years, it does what I want, and does it better than any other phone on the market .... (and I do have an iPhone 4S here to compare it to)

In general though, its better to go for the 820 over the 800 - arguably a better all round device.

[BT@home]

Clonmult, I think you'll be a lone voice ... unless you update your phone with the latest must have OS updates every 6 months then your not with the crowd. Didn't you realise that your phone becomes obsolete if it doesn't get the latest version of OS (see Lumia 800). And similarly if you can't get the latest and greatest 5 minute wonder of a game that your mates have got they will unlike you on Facebook.

[clonmult]

Originally Posted by BT@home

Clonmult, I think you'll be a lone voice ... unless you update your phone with the latest must have OS updates every 6 months then your not with the crowd. Didn't you realise that your phone becomes obsolete if it doesn't get the latest version of OS (see Lumia 800). And similarly if you can't get the latest and greatest 5 minute wonder of a game that your mates have got they will unlike you on Facebook.

Yet somehow, despite being obsolete, these devices continue to work ... generally without any issues.

Of course you could state that due to a complete lack of market penetration, every single WP device is effectively DOA.

[alan1302]

Originally Posted by BT@home

Clonmult, I think you'll be a lone voice ... unless you update your phone with the latest must have OS updates every 6 months then your not with the crowd. Didn't you realise that your phone becomes obsolete if it doesn't get the latest version of OS (see Lumia 800). And similarly if you can't get the latest and greatest 5 minute wonder of a game that your mates have got they will unlike you on Facebook.

But why buy a Lumia 800 when you know that it won't get any further updates and it won't get any new apps? Seems like a strange choice of phone to go with.

[clonmult]

Originally Posted by alan1302

But why buy a Lumia 800 when you know that it won't get any further updates and it won't get any new apps? Seems like a strange choice of phone to go with.

While I agree that the 800 would be a strange one to choose, you could do without claiming it "won't get any further updates and won't get new apps", as it will get updates (although likely just bug fixes/patches), and new apps will be available. So stop spreading ridiculous fud.

[alan1302]

Originally Posted by clonmult

While I agree that the 800 would be a strange one to choose, you could do without claiming it "won't get any further updates and won't get new apps", as it will get updates (although likely just bug fixes/patches), and new apps will be available. So stop spreading ridiculous fud.

Bug fixes/patches are not exactly updates and even things like that are unlikely now.

And why do you think developers will still release new apps?

[gomezz]

The 800 is the obvious choice (of Lumia) for someone wanting a cheapish SIM-free handset as a replacement that is not too big if it does all they want it do.. The 820 is significantly larger.

[DANCE OF DEATH]

Originally Posted by 1saintly

Not what ive been reading, over the last month whilst looking for a new phone.
The update from 7.5 - 7.8 is a minor one.

The new features in the future will be Win 8 only.

http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/fo...-7-8-features-

The 7.5 is missing out on some basic functions you would expect from a phone today.
I would have happily bought a windows phone but couldnt afford a Win 8 one

The new Nokia 620 is going to be released next year, prices seem to be about £160
But with no confirmation on a release date.
http://www.nokia.com/global/products/phone/lumia620/

What basic functions does the Lumia 800 miss out on. Because I can do anything on my Lumia 800 that I could do when I had my iphone.