No strict they went to carla as frank never had a chance to change his will after foghorn dumped him.
Listen here Carla - you wouldn't have that factory if it wasn't for Michelle..
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Originally Posted by tenchgirl:
“No strict they went to carla as frank never had a chance to change his will after foghorn dumped him.”
“No strict they went to carla as frank never had a chance to change his will after foghorn dumped him.”
Oh, she really is a Cat with 9 lives.
Surely she should be loaded. Was she married to Tony Gordan when he died?
The whole idea that she wouldn't know how the factory had been doing while she was living it up in LA is a bit odd as well. What would she and Peter be living on if not the profits of some sort from the factory!!
It's not cheap living in la la land and the idea that a control freak like Carla wouldn't know exactly how the factory was doing in all that time is far fetched to say the least. But of course, the idea that a tiny clothing factory could even exist and do well in the UK is a huge stretch of the imagination anyway
. Also she should get down on her knees and be begging Rob to stay because if I recall when Carla was running things they were always grovelling around looking for new orders and the factory was barely ticking over and at least Rob seems to be able to do very well in that department, that is according to the writers!
It's not cheap living in la la land and the idea that a control freak like Carla wouldn't know exactly how the factory was doing in all that time is far fetched to say the least. But of course, the idea that a tiny clothing factory could even exist and do well in the UK is a huge stretch of the imagination anyway. Also she should get down on her knees and be begging Rob to stay because if I recall when Carla was running things they were always grovelling around looking for new orders and the factory was barely ticking over and at least Rob seems to be able to do very well in that department, that is according to the writers!
Originally Posted by Strict:
“Oh, she really is a Cat with 9 lives.
Surely she should be loaded. Was she married to Tony Gordan when he died?”
“Oh, she really is a Cat with 9 lives.
Surely she should be loaded. Was she married to Tony Gordan when he died?”
Yes, which is why she's Carla Gordon. If she wanted to change her name it should have been back to Donovan. She isn't a Connor. Although you can legally call yourself anything you like and she was at one time married to Paul Connor he preferred his call girls to her so why would she want his name? She was also the catalyst for his brother's death.
Peter Barlow can't have long to live now.
Originally Posted by albiex:
“Yes, which is why she's Carla Gordon. If she wanted to change her name it should have been back to Donovan. She isn't a Connor. Although you can legally call yourself anything you like and she was at one time married to Paul Connor he preferred his call girls to her so why would she want his name? She was also the catalyst for his brother's death.
Peter Barlow can't have long to live now.”
“Yes, which is why she's Carla Gordon. If she wanted to change her name it should have been back to Donovan. She isn't a Connor. Although you can legally call yourself anything you like and she was at one time married to Paul Connor he preferred his call girls to her so why would she want his name? She was also the catalyst for his brother's death.
Peter Barlow can't have long to live now.
”
She's giving Gail 'The Black Widow' Platt a run for her money
Originally Posted by Strict:
“Out of intrest what happend to Frank's shares? I suppose they went to Ann? Does she still have them?”
“Out of intrest what happend to Frank's shares? I suppose they went to Ann? Does she still have them?”
Anne would of got the shares, but Michelle stole the documents that Carla signed to get the factory. I kinda wish this didn't happen, Anne was a better character and I felt bad for her.
Originally Posted by KornerKabin:
“This.
When she first appeared as Paul Connor's wife she had no experience of the 'rag trade' but decided that she just had to set up her children's clothing company ... remember that?
Carla's never actually ran the factory singlehandedly, there's always been someone else - nearly always a man - making sure that things actually run properly.
No sooner had Paul snuffed it than Tony Gordon was on the scene. Once Tony was gone, Frank showed up and in between she was supported by Trevor the bin man-cum-factory-manager (yet another one of Corrie's phenomenal job swaps).”
“This.
When she first appeared as Paul Connor's wife she had no experience of the 'rag trade' but decided that she just had to set up her children's clothing company ... remember that?
Carla's never actually ran the factory singlehandedly, there's always been someone else - nearly always a man - making sure that things actually run properly.
No sooner had Paul snuffed it than Tony Gordon was on the scene. Once Tony was gone, Frank showed up and in between she was supported by Trevor the bin man-cum-factory-manager (yet another one of Corrie's phenomenal job swaps).”
That's true Paul didn't seem to think she had much of a head for buisness. Remember a worker died on her watch too. But of course Carla being Carla she got off scot free.
Originally Posted by ParoFlame:
“I don't think Carla has forgotten about how Michelle has helped her and the factory in the past. I think she just feels like her best friend has betrayed her a little by keeping quiet about what Rob was up to.”
“I don't think Carla has forgotten about how Michelle has helped her and the factory in the past. I think she just feels like her best friend has betrayed her a little by keeping quiet about what Rob was up to.”
Exactly. If you owned a factory and found out your brother had tried to undervalue it to get his hands on it, I highly doubt you'd laugh it off. She has every right to be angry with Rob and annoyed at Michelle.
In all honestly, the writing of Corrie recently, especially with Carla has been awful I think. I'm getting seriously annoyed.
Originally Posted by MagentaMoons:
“The whole idea that she wouldn't know how the factory had been doing while she was living it up in LA is a bit odd as well. What would she and Peter be living on if not the profits of some sort from the factory!! It's not cheap living in la la land and the idea that a control freak like Carla wouldn't know exactly how the factory was doing in all that time is far fetched to say the least. But of course, the idea that a tiny clothing factory could even exist and do well in the UK is a huge stretch of the imagination anyway. Also she should get down on her knees and be begging Rob to stay because if I recall when Carla was running things they were always grovelling around looking for new orders and the factory was barely ticking over and at least Rob seems to be able to do very well in that department, that is according to the writers!”
“The whole idea that she wouldn't know how the factory had been doing while she was living it up in LA is a bit odd as well. What would she and Peter be living on if not the profits of some sort from the factory!!
It's not cheap living in la la land and the idea that a control freak like Carla wouldn't know exactly how the factory was doing in all that time is far fetched to say the least. But of course, the idea that a tiny clothing factory could even exist and do well in the UK is a huge stretch of the imagination anyway. Also she should get down on her knees and be begging Rob to stay because if I recall when Carla was running things they were always grovelling around looking for new orders and the factory was barely ticking over and at least Rob seems to be able to do very well in that department, that is according to the writers!”
He's only been doctoring the accounts in the last week though hasn't he? And she's onto him as soon as she's taken a look at them.
The way I see it, regardless of whatever happened before, Carla had a right to sell her business, which she outright owns 100% of, and Rob had no right to deliberately fiddle the accounts to make said business look worthless so he could buy it. That's fraud, a criminal offence, plain and simple.
And re the Carla not having a business without Michelle thing, yes she did pretty much save the business after the rape (although Carla's state of mind was highly justifiable) and Michelle deserves credit for that, but with regards to the contract that was meaningless as it was never filed with Frank's solicitor and Frank left Carla his shares in his will anyway. So yes it was 'nice' of Michelle to take the contract, but it didn't save the business at all. And even if she had, does that now excuse her just sitting by and letting Rob rip off the woman she calls her best friend?
Saying that, I do think that Michelle has supported Carla an awful lot in the past and Carla really should forgive her for this, which it looks she will do anyway.
And re the Carla not having a business without Michelle thing, yes she did pretty much save the business after the rape (although Carla's state of mind was highly justifiable) and Michelle deserves credit for that, but with regards to the contract that was meaningless as it was never filed with Frank's solicitor and Frank left Carla his shares in his will anyway. So yes it was 'nice' of Michelle to take the contract, but it didn't save the business at all. And even if she had, does that now excuse her just sitting by and letting Rob rip off the woman she calls her best friend?
Saying that, I do think that Michelle has supported Carla an awful lot in the past and Carla really should forgive her for this, which it looks she will do anyway.
Originally Posted by k9fan:
“
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s3...storyline.html
http://coronationstreet.wikia.com/wiki/Nick_Tilsley
In 2010, Nick bought up Tony Gordon's shares of Underworld, and was a business partner to Factory Owner Carla Connor. In June that year, Carla's murderous husband broke out and took Carla hostage in the factory, before setting it on fire. Carla managed to escape but Tony perished. When Carla went off with her boyfriend Trevor on a break because of the recent incident, Nick decided to set up his own clothing firm, under the trade name Nick's Nicks. Carla had returned and wasn't happy when she discovered what Nick had been up to, as he had stolen her work force. She then gave his buyer a better deal which he accepted, and Nick decided to let her work with him until the factory was rebuilt.”
“
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s3...storyline.html
http://coronationstreet.wikia.com/wiki/Nick_Tilsley
In 2010, Nick bought up Tony Gordon's shares of Underworld, and was a business partner to Factory Owner Carla Connor. In June that year, Carla's murderous husband broke out and took Carla hostage in the factory, before setting it on fire. Carla managed to escape but Tony perished. When Carla went off with her boyfriend Trevor on a break because of the recent incident, Nick decided to set up his own clothing firm, under the trade name Nick's Nicks. Carla had returned and wasn't happy when she discovered what Nick had been up to, as he had stolen her work force. She then gave his buyer a better deal which he accepted, and Nick decided to let her work with him until the factory was rebuilt.”
I am a little confused here.
Originally Posted by NathanJohnson:
“Anne would of got the shares, but Michelle stole the documents that Carla signed to get the factory. I kinda wish this didn't happen, Anne was a better character and I felt bad for her.”
“Anne would of got the shares, but Michelle stole the documents that Carla signed to get the factory. I kinda wish this didn't happen, Anne was a better character and I felt bad for her.”
But in the end that did not really matter as the will left his shares etc to Carla so even if she had have signed it over and the documents found after his will reading it would have gone back to her. If he had left everythjing to Anne it would have been sold as the murderer cannot benefit from their crime.
Originally Posted by Holz_:
“The way I see it, regardless of whatever happened before, Carla had a right to sell her business, which she outright owns 100% of, and Rob had no right to deliberately fiddle the accounts to make said business look worthless so he could buy it. That's fraud, a criminal offence, plain and simple.
And re the Carla not having a business without Michelle thing, yes she did pretty much save the business after the rape (although Carla's state of mind was highly justifiable) and Michelle deserves credit for that, but with regards to the contract that was meaningless as it was never filed with Frank's solicitor and Frank left Carla his shares in his will anyway. So yes it was 'nice' of Michelle to take the contract, but it didn't save the business at all. And even if she had, does that now excuse her just sitting by and letting Rob rip off the woman she calls her best friend?
Saying that, I do think that Michelle has supported Carla an awful lot in the past and Carla really should forgive her for this, which it looks she will do anyway.”
“The way I see it, regardless of whatever happened before, Carla had a right to sell her business, which she outright owns 100% of, and Rob had no right to deliberately fiddle the accounts to make said business look worthless so he could buy it. That's fraud, a criminal offence, plain and simple.
And re the Carla not having a business without Michelle thing, yes she did pretty much save the business after the rape (although Carla's state of mind was highly justifiable) and Michelle deserves credit for that, but with regards to the contract that was meaningless as it was never filed with Frank's solicitor and Frank left Carla his shares in his will anyway. So yes it was 'nice' of Michelle to take the contract, but it didn't save the business at all. And even if she had, does that now excuse her just sitting by and letting Rob rip off the woman she calls her best friend?
Saying that, I do think that Michelle has supported Carla an awful lot in the past and Carla really should forgive her for this, which it looks she will do anyway.”
Finally something I wholeheartedly agree with.
Carla is crap at running the factory, when she's in charge it seems she's always running it into the ground, then luring some guy into the company with the promise of sex.
First Tony, then Nick, then Frank.
First Tony, then Nick, then Frank.
Originally Posted by skp20040:
“But in the end that did not really matter as the will left his shares etc to Carla so even if she had have signed it over and the documents found after his will reading it would have gone back to her. If he had left everythjing to Anne it would have been sold as the murderer cannot benefit from their crime.”
“But in the end that did not really matter as the will left his shares etc to Carla so even if she had have signed it over and the documents found after his will reading it would have gone back to her. If he had left everythjing to Anne it would have been sold as the murderer cannot benefit from their crime.”
Exactly.
Originally Posted by madaboutcarla:
“Finally something I wholeheartedly agree with.”
“Finally something I wholeheartedly agree with.”
Originally Posted by Pyramidbread:
“Carla is crap at running the factory, when she's in charge it seems she's always running it into the ground, then luring some guy into the company with the promise of sex.
First Tony, then Nick, then Frank.”
“Carla is crap at running the factory, when she's in charge it seems she's always running it into the ground, then luring some guy into the company with the promise of sex.
First Tony, then Nick, then Frank.”
When did Carla lure Nick in with the promise of sex? He practically begged her to let him buy into it and resorted to getting Kelly to steal confidential records to help him do it. And she was working with Frank before they got together.
Originally Posted by Pyramidbread:
“Carla is crap at running the factory, when she's in charge it seems she's always running it into the ground, then luring some guy into the company with the promise of sex.
First Tony, then Nick, then Frank.”
“Carla is crap at running the factory, when she's in charge it seems she's always running it into the ground, then luring some guy into the company with the promise of sex.
First Tony, then Nick, then Frank.”
She had no interest in Nick, how did she want to lure him in for sex.
And I don't recall her fancying Frank from the off and luring him in for sex either. They were working together professionally before they got together.
Maybe I've lost my memory though.
Originally Posted by Holz_:
“Exactly.
When did Carla lure Nick in with the promise of sex? He practically begged her to let him buy into it and resorted to getting Kelly to steal confidential records to help him do it. And she was working with Frank before they got together.”
“Exactly.
When did Carla lure Nick in with the promise of sex? He practically begged her to let him buy into it and resorted to getting Kelly to steal confidential records to help him do it. And she was working with Frank before they got together.”
I think I remembered Nick's time there wrong now actually
but with Tony and Frank it basically seemed like she got them to sign the contract then they became a couple soon after.
Originally Posted by Pyramidbread:
“I think I remembered Nick's time there wrong now actually but with Tony and Frank it basically seemed like she got them to sign the contract then they became a couple soon after.”
“I think I remembered Nick's time there wrong now actually
but with Tony and Frank it basically seemed like she got them to sign the contract then they became a couple soon after.”
With Tony (I think, from what I can remember) he bought Liam's shares after they became a couple, yes. However he was in a lot of debt around the time they got married and if anyone was carrying anyone by the end it was Carla carrying Tony.
With Frank they were business partners first then got together.
Carla does have a bit of a reputation for ending up with the blokes she works with, but so do half the people who work in any kind of job in soaps to be fair.
Originally Posted by KornerKabin:
“She used Maria as the 'sex bait' with Frank ...”
“She used Maria as the 'sex bait' with Frank ...”
She convinced her to 'turn on the charm' a bit when she dropped off samples, which yes, I think she was in the wrong with, purely because I don't think it's necessary in this day and age to do that (there's a whole feminist rant to be had there that I'll refrain from!) and Maria was clearly uncomfortable so yeah, she was wrong there. But to be fair, that was to drop off samples and to try to convince Frank to place a business-saving order, not to buy into the factory. Frank was the one to suggest buying into the factory, and that was much later.
I'm not quite sure how Carla using flirting as a tactic to grease the wheels makes her an awful and unreliable businesswoman, though. And going back to the original point I'm not sure how this makes Michelle any more justified in siding with Rob over Carla.
Originally Posted by Strict:
“Oh, she really is a Cat with 9 lives.
”
“Oh, she really is a Cat with 9 lives.
”
Yeah because it's not the least she deserved after he'd raped her and then publicly made her out to be a liar, driving her to the edge of attempted suicide, making her business go under by stealing her clients and then taking on her staff....sounds like getting his shares was a tiny bit deserved!
Originally Posted by NathanJohnson:
“Anne would of got the shares, but Michelle stole the documents that Carla signed to get the factory. I kinda wish this didn't happen, Anne was a better character and I felt bad for her.”
“Anne would of got the shares, but Michelle stole the documents that Carla signed to get the factory. I kinda wish this didn't happen, Anne was a better character and I felt bad for her.”
Felt bad for her?! She just murdered her son and whilst knowing that he had raped Carla and she'd already been through unnecessary hell she continued to torment her and make it look like Carla was the one who had murdered Frank!
Originally Posted by Pyramidbread:
“Carla is crap at running the factory, when she's in charge it seems she's always running it into the ground, then luring some guy into the company with the promise of sex.
First Tony, then Nick, then Frank.”
“Carla is crap at running the factory, when she's in charge it seems she's always running it into the ground, then luring some guy into the company with the promise of sex.
First Tony, then Nick, then Frank.”
With regards to Frank I think he was 95% to blame for her business going under. He took all of her clients and turned them against her so she was fighting to get orders, that isn't really her fault. I think she did a pretty damn good job considering what she'd just been through.
With regards to the original post, just because Michelle helped her out doesn't mean it gives her the right to stand by whilst Carla was conned. At the end of the day it came down to telling Carla and risking Rob going back to prison, or letting him rip her off. After everything they've been through her loyalties should have lay with Carla, even more so for legal reasons. Rob was an idiot to think he could have gotten away with it in the first place and he was playing with fire when he knew he risked going back to prison, where were his thoughts towards the factory and staff then?
Some of the posts in this thread are unbelievable!
I used to like Carla but I was thinking exactly the same thing - she dumps the running of the factory on all and sundry and then expects them all to step down when she swans in.
She is no good for Peter either - she has ruined him, and damaged his relationship with Simon - I hope he and Leeane do get back together and Carla can go off into the sunset never to return,
She is no good for Peter either - she has ruined him, and damaged his relationship with Simon - I hope he and Leeane do get back together and Carla can go off into the sunset never to return,
She's also got away with drink driving, like 3 times to my knowlege. Even doing it again after nearly killing somone! With a child in the car!
Nice messsage you are sending there, Corrie.
Nice messsage you are sending there, Corrie.
Originally Posted by leopard_printx:
“Yeah because it's not the least she deserved after he'd raped her and then publicly made her out to be a liar, driving her to the edge of attempted suicide, making her business go under by stealing her clients and then taking on her staff....sounds like getting his shares was a tiny bit deserved!
Felt bad for her?! She just murdered her son and whilst knowing that he had raped Carla and she'd already been through unnecessary hell she continued to torment her and make it look like Carla was the one who had murdered Frank!
With regards to Frank I think he was 95% to blame for her business going under. He took all of her clients and turned them against her so she was fighting to get orders, that isn't really her fault. I think she did a pretty damn good job considering what she'd just been through.
With regards to the original post, just because Michelle helped her out doesn't mean it gives her the right to stand by whilst Carla was conned. At the end of the day it came down to telling Carla and risking Rob going back to prison, or letting him rip her off. After everything they've been through her loyalties should have lay with Carla, even more so for legal reasons. Rob was an idiot to think he could have gotten away with it in the first place and he was playing with fire when he knew he risked going back to prison, where were his thoughts towards the factory and staff then?
Some of the posts in this thread are unbelievable!”
“Yeah because it's not the least she deserved after he'd raped her and then publicly made her out to be a liar, driving her to the edge of attempted suicide, making her business go under by stealing her clients and then taking on her staff....sounds like getting his shares was a tiny bit deserved!
Felt bad for her?! She just murdered her son and whilst knowing that he had raped Carla and she'd already been through unnecessary hell she continued to torment her and make it look like Carla was the one who had murdered Frank!
With regards to Frank I think he was 95% to blame for her business going under. He took all of her clients and turned them against her so she was fighting to get orders, that isn't really her fault. I think she did a pretty damn good job considering what she'd just been through.
With regards to the original post, just because Michelle helped her out doesn't mean it gives her the right to stand by whilst Carla was conned. At the end of the day it came down to telling Carla and risking Rob going back to prison, or letting him rip her off. After everything they've been through her loyalties should have lay with Carla, even more so for legal reasons. Rob was an idiot to think he could have gotten away with it in the first place and he was playing with fire when he knew he risked going back to prison, where were his thoughts towards the factory and staff then?
Some of the posts in this thread are unbelievable!
”
Carla is just as crooked as Rob. Plus she blackmailed Liam to sell her shares to Tony or she would expose their affair to Maria, left for LA when finding out Tony had killed Liam instead of going to the police, only to return a few months later and blackmail him to leave Weatherfield. Then she tried to scheme behind Frank's back about trying to get his shares off him. She also disregarded everything Maria said about Frank. Plus Carla nearly killed Stella with her drink driving, yet got off with it as it was Frank who claimed he was the one driving.
All the stuff with Liam seems to be forgotten as well, considering she knew about it but left Weatherfield. Some friend she is to Michelle.
She can be alright at times and supportive (like with Sally's cancer) but the writers don't do any favours when they write these unlikeable moments like the drink driving, as they are expecting sympathy.
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