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Old 01-03-2013, 16:15
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I use MFP as a tool to record food only really, the forum isn't very supportive too many people trying to say their way is the only way to do it and no idea who they are talking to when they say it.

WW wouldn't work for me but it is great for many people.

I can't say I have tried the 5:2 but I think I would put weight on if I did !
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Old 01-03-2013, 16:58
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I use MFP as a tool to record food only really, the forum isn't very supportive too many people trying to say their way is the only way to do it and no idea who they are talking to when they say it.

WW wouldn't work for me but it is great for many people.

I can't say I have tried the 5:2 but I think I would put weight on if I did !
I've lost weight with loads of diets in the past and put it all back on.
The best weight losses have been with WW and Slimming World when ive been attending the classes and those times the weight regain has been much slower.
It's basically all psychological though, if the NHS put as much effort into weight loss as they put into smoking cessation that would be a help. It's no good giving me a diet sheet, I know what I need to do I just don't do it!
I find the Minimins site quite good for information.
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Old 01-03-2013, 17:32
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I've lost weight with loads of diets in the past and put it all back on.
The best weight losses have been with WW and Slimming World when ive been attending the classes and those times the weight regain has been much slower.
It's basically all psychological though, if the NHS put as much effort into weight loss as they put into smoking cessation that would be a help. It's no good giving me a diet sheet, I know what I need to do I just don't do it!
I find the Minimins site quite good for information.
I'm on Slimming World at the moment if I lose my 1lb next week I'll have lost 1stone in total since 8 Jan 13
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Old 01-03-2013, 17:36
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I'm on Slimming World at the moment if I lose my 1lb next week I'll have lost 1stone in total since 8 Jan 13
Well done.
If you plan your meals well and are prepared its a really easy plan to follow.
I always used to cook extra so I had meals ready in the freezer.
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Old 01-03-2013, 19:15
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I've lost weight with loads of diets in the past and put it all back on.
The best weight losses have been with WW and Slimming World when ive been attending the classes and those times the weight regain has been much slower.
It's basically all psychological though, if the NHS put as much effort into weight loss as they put into smoking cessation that would be a help. It's no good giving me a diet sheet, I know what I need to do I just don't do it!
I find the Minimins site quite good for information.
I think you and Molliepops make some good points about various diets working for some people and not for others. We had a similarly interesting conversation on this thread before about treats being important for some people, but not working for others.

I think you hit the nail on the head when you say that 'it's basically all psychological though'. Different people think and act differently, and that's going to affect the potential success (or not) of any diet.

Personally I just don't feel inclined to try the 5:2 diet. I wouldn't like having two days with only 600 calories, and I wouldn't like to have so many days when I wasn't tracking how many calories I was eating. But a lot of people have had success with it, and I can see how it would work well for someone who doesn't over-compensate on the non-diet days.

While I'm not using them, I like the idea of the systems used by WW. It simplifies things down, unlike the calculations I'm about to do on my computer to see how much I've eaten today.
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Old 01-03-2013, 21:25
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I know one of my colleagues in work has last a couple of stone on the 5:2 but I just couldn't last on it. I just obsessed about food all day when I was on 500 cal days.
I'm hoping this time around I will get into healthy eating that I can continue for life.
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Old 01-03-2013, 23:48
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I've lost weight with loads of diets in the past and put it all back on.
The best weight losses have been with WW and Slimming World when ive been attending the classes and those times the weight regain has been much slower.
It's basically all psychological though, if the NHS put as much effort into weight loss as they put into smoking cessation that would be a help. It's no good giving me a diet sheet, I know what I need to do I just don't do it!
I find the Minimins site quite good for information.
I am just wondering did you feel depressed, lethargic and fatigued when you were on the 5:2 diet? Gaining back the weight you put on is a common thing that happens to most people who don't understand how metabolism and nutrition works. Losing a lot of weight over a short period of time is not the right way I know its a pain but its a fact and you are more likely to get excess skin too if you lose the fat too quickly. Most people who are on these programs are not really taught about nutrition and how it works for your body hence why calorie restriction has become so popular.

Try using protein powder shakes they really do help with controlling your cravings and add the protein powders with some fruits to make a smoothie. That's what I have its taste delicious too and its very easy and quick to make.

Personally I wouldn't try a 5:2 diet it just looks so unhealthy and your body needs a lot of nutrients (as in carbs and protein) to do the following
1. Repair any damaged tissues if you exercise
2. Keep your body functioning at peak efficiency
3. Your brain needs carbs and the protein to keep you alive
4.Fat loss and hence you lose weight and gain muscle

I know that i was eating just 2 meals a day as in Weetbix at the start of the day and then some indian food later in the night i still got fat but I felt so lethargic and depressed and I started to get dark circles under my eyes and sunken eyes.
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Old 02-03-2013, 07:46
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I am just wondering did you feel depressed, lethargic and fatigued when you were on the 5:2 diet? Gaining back the weight you put on is a common thing that happens to most people who don't understand how metabolism and nutrition works. Losing a lot of weight over a short period of time is not the right way I know its a pain but its a fact and you are more likely to get excess skin too if you lose the fat too quickly. Most people who are on these programs are not really taught about nutrition and how it works for your body hence why calorie restriction has become so popular.

Try using protein powder shakes they really do help with controlling your cravings and add the protein powders with some fruits to make a smoothie. That's what I have its taste delicious too and its very easy and quick to make.

Personally I wouldn't try a 5:2 diet it just looks so unhealthy and your body needs a lot of nutrients (as in carbs and protein) to do the following
1. Repair any damaged tissues if you exercise
2. Keep your body functioning at peak efficiency
3. Your brain needs carbs and the protein to keep you alive
4.Fat loss and hence you lose weight and gain muscle

I know that i was eating just 2 meals a day as in Weetbix at the start of the day and then some indian food later in the night i still got fat but I felt so lethargic and depressed and I started to get dark circles under my eyes and sunken eyes.
I actually felt OK on the 5:2- just hungry.
There is actually a lot of science behind it and supposed health benefits.
Your body can actually get all the nutrients it needs on the other 5 days.
As I say it wasn't right for me but I think it would be beneficial for other people.
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Old 02-03-2013, 08:33
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I think it wouldn't work for me basically because before a diet I tend to think eat all the things I like the day or so before I start as I may not have them for a long time, if I did that every week no calories at all on two days would be too many
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Old 02-03-2013, 09:42
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I think it wouldn't work for me basically because before a diet I tend to think eat all the things I like the day or so before I start as I may not have them for a long time, if I did that every week no calories at all on two days would be too many
But it's only one day that you fast so you don't feel the need to overeat the day before as you know you can eat what you want the following day.
I found that my calories actually reduced on the days I could eat.
Saying that I'm not an expert as I only did 2 weeks.
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Old 02-03-2013, 10:13
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morning all, hope all well..im still sticking to my 1400 calories a day, it was 1200 but i was still hungry so ive upped it and im now off to the gym for a good workout
saying that im down from 67.1 to 66.2 in a week so im pleased with that
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:20
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I don't know what's going on but having started to fail on Weight Watchers (after losing a stone in January), I've given up and eaten what the hell I liked in the past 10 days, including things I don't normally have because of migraines like chocolate, wine and cake, stopped walking so much (just half way and then got the bus) and I've LOST 4lb. I've even gone down a bit on measurements a well which is rare for me. My BMI was 35 at the start of the year. It's now 32. Perhaps I can get it down to 30 by not dieting.

Weightwatchers is going out the window for sure (even though I paid for 3 months). I've tried 3 times (twice on the old points and once on the new) and I've never lost more than a stone and have been constantly hungry - so it's not for me. The experiment with new points was worth doing though as it'll stop me wondering if I should pay out in the future - the answer is a resounding no.

Now the problem I have is the amount of money I've spent on pizza hut and dominos in the past 10 days, as the takeaway boxes in my kitchen will testify.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:26
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But it's only one day that you fast so you don't feel the need to overeat the day before as you know you can eat what you want the following day.
I found that my calories actually reduced on the days I could eat.
Saying that I'm not an expert as I only did 2 weeks.
At this point I can say I completely understand that but I can also say if I did it I cannot guarantee my issues with food would not overwhelm me and send me into that spiral. I am doing well at the moment and cannot risk it. Perhaps if my issues go away (not sure if that ever happens). but for me now it would be a huge risk.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:30
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I don't know what's going on but having started to fail on Weight Watchers (after losing a stone in January), I've given up and eaten what the hell I liked in the past 10 days, including things I don't normally have becuase of migraines like chocolate, wine and cake, stopped walking so much (just half way and then got the bus) and I've LOST 4lb. I've even gone down a bit on measurements a well which is rare for me. My BMI was 35 at the start of the year. It's now 32. Perhaps I can get it down to 30 by not dieting.

Weightwatchers is going out the window for sure (even though I paid for 3 months). I've tried 3 times (twice on the old points and once on the new) and I've never lost more than a stone and have been constantly hungry - so it's not for me. The experiment with new points was worth doing though as it'll stop me wondering if I should pay out in the future - the answer is a resounding no.

Now the problem I have is the amount of money I've spent on pizza hut and dominos in the past 10 days, as the takeaway boxes in my kitchen will testify.
You have been lucky to lose weight. You know that you won't continue to lose weight if you eat pizza. Maybe because you've been dieting you are not actually eating as much as you think.
If you've paid for weight watchers for 3 months just get back on it and give it another month. If you are hungry fill up on fruit and veg.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:44
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I don't know what's going on but having started to fail on Weight Watchers (after losing a stone in January), I've given up and eaten what the hell I liked in the past 10 days, including things I don't normally have becuase of migraines like chocolate, wine and cake, stopped walking so much (just half way and then got the bus) and I've LOST 4lb. I've even gone down a bit on measurements a well which is rare for me. My BMI was 35 at the start of the year. It's now 32. Perhaps I can get it down to 30 by not dieting.

Weightwatchers is going out the window for sure (even though I paid for 3 months). I've tried 3 times (twice on the old points and once on the new) and I've never lost more than a stone and have been constantly hungry - so it's not for me. The experiment with new points was worth doing though as it'll stop me wondering if I should pay out in the future - the answer is a resounding no.

Now the problem I have is the amount of money I've spent on pizza hut and dominos in the past 10 days, as the takeaway boxes in my kitchen will testify.
The reason you feel hungry is not weight watchers' fault, it's because you don't understand diet and nutrition properly so make an effort to educate yourself. Even if you are losing weight eating junk, it's not healthy, and will takes its toll on your body. If you are feeling hungry, you need to fill up on foods that will keep you full and provide slow release energy, so for example, a meal of lean protein, complex carbs and veg. It's drives me dotty when people say 'so and so diet doesn't work for me' when it's not the diet or healthy eating plan that's not working, it's them. I can't honestly believe you think cutting back exercise and eating take away is the way to be slim and healthy.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:56
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The reason you feel hungry is not weight watchers' fault, it's because you don't understand diet and nutrition properly so make an effort to educate yourself. Even if you are losing weight eating junk, it's not healthy, and will takes its toll on your body. If you are feeling hungry, you need to fill up on foods that will keep you full and provide slow release energy, so for example, a meal of lean protein, complex carbs and veg. It's drives me dotty when people say 'so and so diet doesn't work for me' when it's not the diet or healthy eating plan that's not working, it's them. I can't honestly believe you think cutting back exercise and eating take away is the way to be slim and healthy.
I'm sure you're mostly right - but there are two issues, one is that generally I don't eat complete junk (I've eaten far more in the past 10 days than normally eg normally I'd have a pizza once a fortnight or once a month max and almost no chocolate, wine or cake) and the other is that I have always, always been very hungry on the food that apparently fills you up. It just doesn't. The idea of 'slow realease' energy is not something I have ever found to be true. As for 'filling up' on fruit and veg as someone else suggested - I could eat the whole fridge of fruit and veg and still be starving. It's like the advice that says always eat breakfast - if I do that I'd have stuffed myself by lunch time. The more I eat the hungrier I get.

Maybe because you've been dieting you are not actually eating as much as you think.
I kept tracking for a few days and was eating up to100 propoints a day - it's in one of my back posts. That's somewhere between 4000 and 5000 calories (and obviously way, way above what I would normally eat).
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Old 02-03-2013, 12:17
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I always find it much easier to diet when the sun is out, these dank cold days drive a lot of people to over eat IMO. Perhaps that is part of your problem ?
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Old 02-03-2013, 12:26
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I always find it much easier to diet when the sun is out, these dank cold days drive a lot of people to over eat IMO. Perhaps that is part of your problem ?
No I know lots of people say that but it doesn't make a difference for me - I'm either hungry or not - the weather has no impact!

The only thing that makes a difference is whether it's a work day or not (presumably because when you're at work you can't just eat when you want).
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Old 02-03-2013, 12:52
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Perhaps you would benefit from a more structured approach ? Plan what you are going to eat each day and don't buy anything not on the plan. I have been doing that it hasn't taken long before I just cannot eat like I used to I get full much quicker having had smaller meals for a while now.

Also when I feel hungry I have a large drink and go for a walk in the fresh air, can just be thirst sometimes rather than true hunger.
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Old 02-03-2013, 13:23
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I think constantly thinking about food probably makes it worse and the structured approach is what caused me to stop losing weight. WW is incredibly structured (assuming you calculate points before you eat to make sure you fit them into the day). I can do structure - but it's incredibly boring and I'm very hungry on it. Eating what I want when I want (within reason and constraints such as work) seems to be having a better effect. The last 2 weeks I did WW I put on 1.5 lb... .

Perhaps when I'm not having to plan where the next food is coming from it's actually better because then I just eat when I'm hungry and eat what is going to make me not hungry rather than eating what I have planned to eat because I've bought it so have to or eat it or waste it (which I don't like) even if it's not what I want at the time I'm hungry.

On your last point, I've seen those programmes where people apparently live off 10 cups of tea a day - apart from the fact that that would make me feel ill, drinking rather than eating doesn't stop me being hungry.
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Old 02-03-2013, 13:34
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If your problem is that you are always hungry maybe you could set yourself goals. Say you eat at 11am tell yourself that you will wait until 2pm before you eat again and then say 6pm. Try and be sensible in what you eat but don't put too much of a constraint on yourself.
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Old 02-03-2013, 13:43
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I actually felt OK on the 5:2- just hungry.
There is actually a lot of science behind it and supposed health benefits.
Your body can actually get all the nutrients it needs on the other 5 days.
As I say it wasn't right for me but I think it would be beneficial for other people.
What sort of benefits do you get it from it? Does it help you build muscle and how does it help you lift more heavier weights? Where does your body get the protein from if you go 2 days without eating not that much. I wouldn't want to torture myself with this sort of diet.

I wouldn't want to go on this losing weight quickly is always a bad sign even though most people (and I know how they feel being a former obese man myself) would love to do that.
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Old 02-03-2013, 14:32
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Hi all,
New poster to this thread. I've just joined Slimming World online. I've been on WW on and off for the past 3 years but think i've just got bored of it. I have a holiday coming up in 3 months that I would really like to lose at least a stone for so thought it was a good idea to sign up to something new, that would peak my interest and hopefully mean I would stick to dieting before my holiday.
So far I am impressed, once i'd got my head around the healthy options and syns it seem like a fairly simple plan to follow. I'm a big meat lover so i think i'll be very satisfied knowing a can eat as much (lean) meat as i like
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Old 02-03-2013, 14:48
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Hi all,
New poster to this thread. I've just joined Slimming World online. I've been on WW on and off for the past 3 years but think i've just got bored of it. I have a holiday coming up in 3 months that I would really like to lose at least a stone for so thought it was a good idea to sign up to something new, that would peak my interest and hopefully mean I would stick to dieting before my holiday.
So far I am impressed, once i'd got my head around the healthy options and syns it seem like a fairly simple plan to follow. I'm a big meat lover so i think i'll be very satisfied knowing a can eat as much (lean) meat as i like
The thing I found with SW was it was more difficult to just grab convenience food and work out the syns.
I used to batch cook and freeze some portions and that way I always had free food ready to take to work.
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Old 02-03-2013, 14:51
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If your problem is that you are always hungry maybe you could set yourself goals. Say you eat at 11am tell yourself that you will wait until 2pm before you eat again and then say 6pm. Try and be sensible in what you eat but don't put too much of a constraint on yourself.
I'm not always hungry when I eat what I want. I was always hungry on Weight Watchers or when I eat stuff that people say will make you full.
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