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Old 10-03-2013, 17:41
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Why don't you wait and see who skates best before making up your mind?
No because you can't call it on that because who the judges say is best is not necessarily true it is personal opinion as to who you want to win regardless. Beth IMO has been skating much better than Matt but has been getting marked below him so I am making my own mind up based on my own opinions not what they judges try to manipulate me to think which is what they are doing.

I want Beth to win so I'm going to vote for her I'm not going to change my mind if Matt or Luke come out and get a 40 because that is not who I am supporting so I don't care how well they skate it is not going to make me change my vote.

If there is any justice tonight Beth will be the winner.
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Old 10-03-2013, 17:43
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Yes Matt is up against two Olympians and needs our votes.

It'll be a real bore if yet another Olympian automatically wins DOI like Louis Smith won SCD.
Yet you'd rather ANOTHER soap star win
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Old 10-03-2013, 17:55
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Yet you'd rather ANOTHER soap star win
Yes if he was as enthusiastic and hard working as Matt who's a great role model for other young people like him who are trying to start out in life in this dire economy.
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Old 10-03-2013, 18:03
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Yes if he was as enthusiastic and hard working as Matt who's a great role model for other young people like him who are trying to start out in life.
doesn't that describe Olympians too

surely years of dedication to a sport and achieving the ultimate prize (ie an Olympic medal) is at least equally hardworking and inspiring for young people as going to theatre school and getting a medium sized role in a soap for less than a year then being dropped

Just because Luke and Beth aren't so hyper and brash on the show it doesn't mean they are less enthusiastic or less hard working in training
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Old 10-03-2013, 18:12
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Yet you'd rather ANOTHER soap star win
How does their day job have anything to do with how well they skate? Hayley was a 'soap star' amd was clearly the best that year imo. She'd have still been the best had she been an Olympic athlete!
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Old 10-03-2013, 18:15
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Yes if he was as enthusiastic and hard working as Matt who's a great role model for other young people like him who are trying to start out in life in this dire economy.
There is noone more hardworking than Beth and Luke. They have spent most of their lives working hard.
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Old 10-03-2013, 18:19
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There is noone more hardworking than Beth and Luke. They have spent most of their lives working hard.
But from what I've seen, they've not been working as hard as Matt has for this show.
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Old 10-03-2013, 18:20
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But from what I've seen, they've not been working as hard as Matt has for this show.
And you have facts to back up this outrageous claim??
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Old 10-03-2013, 18:22
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But from what I've seen, they've not been working as hard as Matt has for this show.
What have we seen? Matt has hardly improved at all, he hasn't done anything to improve his posture.

You have to work hard to get where they have got to, it is the way they are, I doubt they would not any different on this show.
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Old 10-03-2013, 18:25
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And you have facts to back up this outrageous claim??
They are obviously watching a different show to us
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Old 10-03-2013, 18:27
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What have we seen? Matt has hardly improved at all, he hasn't done anything to improve his posture.

You have to work hard to get where they have got to, it is the way they are, I doubt they would not any different on this show.
Is that the best you can come up with - his posture LOL?

Even Beth has said that they all started at the same level except for Keith who was the best skater out of the 12 on day 1.
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Old 10-03-2013, 18:27
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But from what I've seen, they've not been working as hard as Matt has for this show.
Oh so you are one of the coaches on DOI are you?
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Old 10-03-2013, 18:28
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But from what I've seen, they've not been working as hard as Matt has for this show.
So you have attended every training session for all of them have you? Have you logged every single minute they have been on the ice?

Hmm thought not I guess your going on Matts I've worked so so hard guff that he keeps spouting. The others have worked equally as hard as he is perhaps harder as you don't know what they have been doing and what training they have put in.

Just because they don't feel the need to spout about how hard they have worked and how tough it is at every opportunity does not mean that they have not put in as much effort as he has.

He has not put any effort in to correcting the bad habits, posture etc and has not really made any effort to actually learn anything new. He has stayed at the level he started IMO which doesn't say much for all his hard work and effort then.

IMO an Olympian is a much better role model than an actor and they have put in years of hard work dedication and sacrifice. Not just having to role up for an audition occasionally they have slogged for years to achieve their goals they know what dedication is.
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Old 10-03-2013, 18:33
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And you have facts to back up this outrageous claim??
In the media reports, Matt is always striving to improve.

Beth on the hand always seems to be moaning about her deficiencies e.g. when given the hula hoop, she complained it was difficult because she was an artistic rather than a rhythmic gymnast.
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Old 10-03-2013, 18:35
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Is that the best you can come up with - his posture LOL?

Even Beth has said that they all started at the same level except for Keith who was the best skater out of the 12 on day 1.
Rubbish, Matt has been bombing around the skating rink from day 1.
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Old 10-03-2013, 18:35
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In the media reports, Matt is always striving to improve.

Beth on the hand always seems to be moaning about her deficiencies e.g. when given the hula hoop, she complained it was difficult because she was an artistic rather than a rhythmic gymnast.
and Matt crying and getting morbid because he was in the bottom 2, oh dear.
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Old 10-03-2013, 18:36
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I will be voting for BETH and no1 else as both luke and matt for one have had tanty's on the show about not wanting to do something that T&D have choreographed and also precious little matt gets want he wants just because he thows his dummy outta the pram and I dont think thats fair, his performances are robotic, samey and tbf a yawnfest he does these "amazing" lifts to disguise the fact all he can do is urban crap and also just because hes a soapstar doesnt mean his performance is any better than Beth's just cos he can act (apparently) dont mean he automatically should one get to the final and then even go on to winning just like "sam" did two years ago for being basically a good "performer" even tho he was just as up himself and dull as Matt is, funny how they both had brianne as a partner isn't it
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Old 10-03-2013, 18:36
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In the media reports, Matt is always striving to improve.

Beth on the hand always seems to be moaning about her deficiencies e.g. when given the hula hoop, she complained it was difficult because she was an artistic rather than a rhythmic gymnast.
Well he's failed then as he hasn't improved, same sloppy skating, same moves, same style same bad posture etc etc etc
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Old 10-03-2013, 18:38
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Ok I will vote for Beth.
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Old 10-03-2013, 18:39
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In the media reports, Matt is always striving to improve.

Beth on the hand always seems to be moaning about her deficiencies e.g. when given the hula hoop, she complained it was difficult because she was an artistic rather than a rhythmic gymnast.
and Matt complained about having 3 hats ..... and then did very little with them and dropped the difficult part of the routine where he had to throw the hat as it was obviously too hard
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Old 10-03-2013, 18:40
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They are obviously watching a different show to us
Obviously!

Matt to win!!!
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Old 10-03-2013, 18:41
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Rubbish, Matt has been bombing around the skating rink from day 1.
http://www.itv.com/news/calendar/sto...-on-ice-final/
Scroll down to Beth's interview at around 1:45 and you will hear her confirm that Keith was the best skater on day 1.
Talk about selective memory.
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Old 10-03-2013, 18:43
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http://www.itv.com/news/calendar/sto...-on-ice-final/
Scroll down to Beth's interview at around 1:45 and you will hear her confirm that Keith was the best skater on day 1.
Talk about selective memory.
So because Beth says so, it is automatically correct. I don't think so.
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Old 10-03-2013, 18:43
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In the media reports, Matt is always striving to improve.

Beth on the hand always seems to be moaning about her deficiencies e.g. when given the hula hoop, she complained it was difficult because she was an artistic rather than a rhythmic gymnast.
Yes, she did. Chloe did a far better job with the hula hoop didn't she? Her props routine was amazing!
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Old 10-03-2013, 19:04
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So because Beth says so, it is automatically correct. I don't think so.
LOL you can be so selective with the facts when it suits you.

Face up to it - Beth has confirmed that Keith was the best skater out of all 12 of them on day 1.
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