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Liz Jones - YOU magazine (Part 4)
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Sweetums
23-03-2015
Originally Posted by flowerpowa:
“Sorry if you find me a threat, I'm only voicing my honest opinion, just the same as you and if your way of having a bit of fun, is being vicious and nasty about a person, I'll leave you to wallow in it.”

Good lord, not again. *yawn*
Sweetums
23-03-2015
Just a thought - I think flowerpowa and co really want to see this thread closed and no more criticism allowed. It's clear they are trying to rile us into arguing with them and that has to be the reason why..

Might I suggest we all try putting she and her ilk on ignore so we can stay on topic and the mods can't come after us for being "unconstructive" or anything? Again, just a thought.
Rubbish Name
23-03-2015
The mods on DS are very quick to respond whenever there's anything on the forums which breeches their rules. I suspect we'd know by know if we were doing anything wrong and I also don't think it's really down to other FMs to chastise us.
LJ puts her life out there and desparately hopes people will talk about it. I don't think she'd thank people for trying to 'shame' us into stopping!
Also, have you SEEN some of the things said in the Jordan/Peter Andree threads? We are positively toothless in comparison
CollieComber
23-03-2015
Originally Posted by Rubbish Name:
“The mods on DS are very quick to respond whenever there's anything on the forums which breeches their rules. I suspect we'd know by know if we were doing anything wrong and I also don't think it's really down to other FMs to chastise us.
LJ puts her life out there and desparately hopes people will talk about it. I don't think she'd thank people for trying to 'shame' us into stopping!
Also, have you SEEN some of the things said in the Jordan/Peter Andree threads? We are positively toothless in comparison”

Far be it from me to speculate... but before Puffinpoo and the other one piped up, this thread had slipped to Page 2. Now, surprise, surprise, it's top of Page one and the original 'poke in the eye' comments have been deleted...
Suzy_Cat
23-03-2015
Don't feed the trolls.

Who are probably mates of LJs, or wish they were.
Lizzyroz
23-03-2015
Hi everyone. Longtime lurker here.

I love looking through this thread and love the wit of some of the posters and their pastiches of the Diary. I can't see anywhere people have said anything potentially libellous. I'm sure the mods would let us know if they had. In the end, people are entitled to a viewpoint, even if others disagree with it. If they like Liz, why not make their own thread in appreciation of her ''work''?

Liz continually runs down everything and everyone, and I'm surprised that she herself hasn't been sued for libel.
flowerpowa
23-03-2015
Originally Posted by Sweetums:
“Just a thought - I think flowerpowa and co really want to see this thread closed and no more criticism allowed. It's clear they are trying to rile us into arguing with them and that has to be the reason why..

Might I suggest we all try putting she and her ilk on ignore so we can stay on topic and the mods can't come after us for being "unconstructive" or anything? Again, just a thought. ”

You didn't read my post properly, I said, I'd leave you to wallow in your fun, happy now.
Dominodarling
23-03-2015
Originally Posted by flowerpowa:
“Sorry if you find me a threat, I'm only voicing my honest opinion, just the same as you and if your way of having a bit of fun, is being vicious and nasty about a person, I'll leave you to wallow in it.”

Well is her way of having a bit of fun making unkind, hurtful and definitely libellous comments about me. Is that ok then? She is viscious and nasty about me simply because I am her boyfriends ex! So is that ok then? From where I'm sitting it's not! She's put me through hell - in print, for all the world to read. And I'm not the only one. It's not innocent writing. It's about real people who have no right to reply. She has no right to intrude on my life and privacy. And she tells lies !
cherrychocolate
23-03-2015
Originally Posted by Dominodarling:
“Well is her way of having a bit of fun making unkind, hurtful and definitely libellous comments about me. Is that ok then? She is viscious and nasty about me simply because I am her boyfriends ex! So is that ok then? From where I'm sitting it's not! She's put me through hell - in print, for all the world to read. And I'm not the only one. It's not innocent writing. It's about real people who have no right to reply. She has no right to intrude on my life and privacy. And she tells lies !”


Am certain a lot of the posters here feel aggrieved for you DD. I certainly do. It's outrageous that she can use her column to attack a person just because they had a relationship with a certain man. Goodness me, that's vile, petty, jealous, disgusting behaviour.

Shame on you Liz Jones
cherrychocolate
23-03-2015
Originally Posted by Mr Curmudgeon:
“Cherry-Chocolate,



I see many similarities between 'narcissists', 'sociopaths' and 'psychopaths', i.e. the inability to truly empathise with someone else... anyone in fact. The inability to just sit and 'be' with someone without judgement; to truly feel someone else's pain and absorb it without needing to project it out again with a 'Me' attached to it.

The difference that I see between these psychological 'conditions' is that 'narcissists' see themselves at the centre of their own universe with a need for validation... whereas 'sociopaths' and 'psychopaths' don't crave approval.



I think I know what you mean, but I feel that it's an either/or kind of thing. At any point in time I believe that you're either in your egoic-mind, or in your right-mind. I don't think you can be in a 'small egoic-state' any more than you can be 'a little bit pregnant'.

I do remember the Katie Piper interview... which - when you boil the bones down - is actually the same as any other interview that Liz has ever done...there's never any empathy.

She'll take the pain that someone else has endured, she'll internalise it, she'll find situations that resonate for her, and then she'll project her pain outward and seek sympathy for herself... as a good narcissist would. It's almost vampiric.

Sorry for my ramblings !”


You really do make sense
cherrychocolate
23-03-2015
Have wondered does it make anyone just as bad as LJ by posting on here?
After alot of thought, and this is just an opinion, I decided no it doesn't.
To me it seems most of us are here to register our outrage at what is quite simply an abuse of power. Sitting back and not saying a word is tantamount to approval.
I don't approve of the way she whines and attacks, so am going to carry on regardless of what anyone has to say.
That is until madam gets the message, but that would be a miracle.

Also, I think someone would dearly love to publish this:

Reader, I married him.

So not convinced they're over yet. Don't know if you can believe anything she says though.
Sweetums
23-03-2015
Originally Posted by flowerpowa:
“You didn't read my post properly, I said, I'd leave you to wallow in your fun, happy now.”

*yawn* *yawn* *yawn*

Anyway, about Liz and Dscrace and the endless will they/won't they. How many years is she going to drag that on for? Why are the Mail continuing to pay her for rewriting the same article every single week? One wonders what La Lizard has got on the powers that be. Must be something big as NOTHING justifies this hack not only being kept on as staff but paid what she is.
CollieComber
24-03-2015
They are still together, as far as I know. He has sold his soul to the Devil and she gets another six months doing the Dreary. I feel very deeply for DominoDarling... Jones can pick on her at will in her column (trollish behaviour if ever there was some) and DD has no right of reply. She is mercilessly mocked and Dscrace does nothing to defend her lest the Golden Goose punishes him by withdrawing privileges. What sort of a 'man' must he be to act (or not) in such a craven, conniving way. They evidently deserve each other. She cares about no-one but herself. I am surprised he can sleep at night.
CollieComber
24-03-2015
Probably he thinks swapping his bedsit for this makes his despcable behaviour worthwhile...

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-...-35159657.html
Suzy_Cat
24-03-2015
CollieComber and DominoDarling, you both seem to have some insider info. Do you think he really does love her? Or is he just in it for the money? She's a horrid person by all accounts but I'd still feel very sorry for her if she was just being used. (Not THAT sorry. But sorry.)
CollieComber
24-03-2015
Originally Posted by Suzy_Cat:
“CollieComber and DominoDarling, you both seem to have some insider info. Do you think he really does love her? Or is he just in it for the money? She's a horrid person by all accounts but I'd still feel very sorry for her if she was just being used. (Not THAT sorry. But sorry.)”

And therein lies the beauty of their arrangement! If she were being taken advantage of she'd be absolutely thrilled! So much more to write about (cf. her ex-husband)! Also, your and my definition of 'happy' is not remotely the same as hers. She measures happiness in things, objects, animals in her collection, accessories. She doesn't 'feel' in a way you might recognise. She never speaks of her 'feelings' towards him. She has no sense of empathy. We are all merely ornaments in her world.

Dscrace has had an interesting life, he hs been rich and knows it is better than being poor. He has artistic talent which she diminishes as she is threatened by it (she has none). He has no money and is prepared to trade his self-respect and all his friends in for a warm bunk and some nice toys. He is old and tired. Remember they had a catch up lunch a few years ago prior to the current farrago, so the whole 'whirlwind romance' thing is a bit of a fib from the off.. She is running her usual MO: find a man, alienate him from all his past contacts, isolate him then use him. They are both thinking of retiring, she just has to churn out the same old bilge for another couple of years...
Lizzyroz
24-03-2015
Originally Posted by CollieComber:
“Dscrace has had an interesting life, he hs been rich and knows it is better than being poor. He has artistic talent which she diminishes as she is threatened by it (she has none). He has no money and is prepared to trade his self-respect and all his friends in for a warm bunk and some nice toys. He is old and tired. Remember they had a catch up lunch a few years ago prior to the current farrago, so the whole 'whirlwind romance' thing is a bit of a fib from the off.. She is running her usual MO: find a man, alienate him from all his past contacts, isolate him then use him. They are both thinking of retiring, she just has to churn out the same old bilge for another couple of years...”

He also lets her parade his faults and foibles every week for the reading public to see.

Wonder what his motives are? Either he's a masochist who doesn't mind being ripped to shreds verbally or he's in it for the exposure and the presents of gold Dunhill lighters and N Peal cardis..
Rubbish Name
24-03-2015
Originally Posted by cherrychocolate:
“Have wondered does it make anyone just as bad as LJ by posting on here?
After alot of thought, and this is just an opinion, I decided no it doesn't.

To me it seems most of us are here to register our outrage at what is quite simply an abuse of power. Sitting back and not saying a word is tantamount to approval.
I don't approve of the way she whines and attacks, so am going to carry on regardless of what anyone has to say.
That is until madam gets the message, but that would be a miracle.

Also, I think someone would dearly love to publish this:

Reader, I married him.

So not convinced they're over yet. Don't know if you can believe anything she says though.”

No we absolutely arent!
Any comment that is made in here or anywhere else, she has an internatioally available soap box in the DM online to responde in. It is sad that the people she attachs don't have it. Not including the Rihannas Kate Mosses and Clare Baldings - I mean the real people, like DominoDarling, who have to hear about the lies being printed and have little or no option but to lump it. DD - best wishes to you, you should know that there are battallions of people out there who know everything she says is tosh and she couldnt tell the truth if her life depended on it.
Seabird
25-03-2015
Domino Darling, may I ask if you have contacted the MoS to complain about the very public vendetta that Liz clearly has against you. It just seems beyond comprehension that someone should be allowed to attack an innocent person (and non-celebrity) in a newspaper due to their own twisted jealousy.
Suzy_Cat
25-03-2015
I suspect that Liz can get away with it because she never names or otherwise identifies DD, and while people who KNOW about her prior relationship with the Baker would know immediately who she's writing about, other people in the wider world would not. For instance, if DD applied for a job, met some new people etc etc, they would not immediately say "OH YOU ARE GARNIER FRUCTIS WOMAN, bane of Liz Jones' lfe".

Unless of course DD is a renowned spokesperson or model for Garnier Fructis, in which case Liz would not have a lifted knee to stand on.

Liz is not nice, but she's also not stupid and I suspect that, ironically, she would be more cautious about the litigious little person than, for example, a celeb or fellow meeja personality.
cherrychocolate
25-03-2015
Originally Posted by Suzy_Cat:
“I suspect that Liz can get away with it because she never names or otherwise identifies DD, and while people who KNOW about her prior relationship with the Baker would know immediately who she's writing about, other people in the wider world would not. For instance, if DD applied for a job, met some new people etc etc, they would not immediately say "OH YOU ARE GARNIER FRUCTIS WOMAN, bane of Liz Jones' lfe".

Unless of course DD is a renowned spokesperson or model for Garnier Fructis, in which case Liz would not have a lifted knee to stand on.

Liz is not nice, but she's also not stupid and I suspect that, ironically, she would be more cautious about the litigious little person than, for example, a celeb or fellow meeja personality.”


From what we hear about it sounds like LJ has had a lot of court experience so she might be a bit of an expert by now on how to protect herself.
cherrychocolate
25-03-2015
Sadly the woman is a bully. She likes to make people uncomfortable - apparently it's all down to her wonderful sense of humour. Ha bloody ha.

But you'll notice how loud she squeals when she feels bullied. But of course that's completely different.
Seabird
25-03-2015
Originally Posted by cherrychocolate:
“Sadly the woman is a bully. She likes to make people uncomfortable - apparently it's all down to her wonderful sense of humour. Ha bloody ha.

But you'll notice how loud she squeals when she feels bullied. But of course that's completely different.”

I've noticed this in many people who like to 'tell it like it is' with no respect to other people's feelings and yet if anyone dares to object or points out their own short-comings they squeal like a piglet, turn on the waterworks and claim they are being bullied. Fortunately most of these hideous souls don't have a national newspaper/website to vent their cowardly spleens in. Even if the people Liz picks on in her column are not named, the hurt and humiliation she personally causes is totally unacceptable for them to have to endure.
Mommie Dearest
25-03-2015
Originally Posted by Seabird:
“I've noticed this in many people who like to 'tell it like it is' with no respect to other people's feelings and yet if anyone dares to object or points out their own short-comings they squeal like a piglet, turn on the waterworks and claim they are being bullied. Fortunately most of these hideous souls don't have a national newspaper/website to vent their cowardly spleens in. Even if the people Liz picks on in her column are not named, the hurt and humiliation she personally causes is totally unacceptable for them to have to endure.”

Well said. Remember this "gem"?


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...cared-day.html
Suzy_Cat
25-03-2015
"I only said that his hair was matted and his nails too long and that he dropped fag ash all over the place!"
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