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Old 13-10-2015, 22:28
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Not all dreamed up - some of the people she's vilified and libelled are (or were) very real, as was the hurt she's inflicted.
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Old 14-10-2015, 17:49
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Not all dreamed up - some of the people she's vilified and libelled are (or were) very real, as was the hurt she's inflicted.
I agree. You don't get banned from attending your sister's funeral for writing made-up rubbish. I really think she's just that thick-skinned, and assumes everyone els to be.
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Old 14-10-2015, 19:30
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Not all dreamed up - some of the people she's vilified and libelled are (or were) very real, as was the hurt she's inflicted.
That's a good point.

I feel sorry for anyone she comes into contact with, poor sods.
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Old 14-10-2015, 21:38
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I agree. You don't get banned from attending your sister's funeral for writing made-up rubbish. I really think she's just that thick-skinned, and assumes everyone els to be.
Haven't the rest of the family also not told her where her sister is buried? They can probably foresee her having a photoshoot by the grave.
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Old 15-10-2015, 10:00
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... It's all made up nonsense to fill a column every week. She's a car-crash if that's her real life week to week. As for the beau, he probably has no interest whatsoever in the guff that she writes about lol
I read it to have a good laugh
DScrace's ex has posted in here a few times - she has been really hurt by some of the things Lizard has said about her.
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Old 15-10-2015, 11:00
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I suppose there is no way the people who LJ has hurt can sue LJ/The Mail? Maybe it would require too much money and effort to mount a lawsuit, but it's criminal that the press can print what they like about defenceless, anonymous people and never be challenged over it.
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Old 17-10-2015, 07:47
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It's my understanding that legally speaking you would only want to sue if you've been brought into serious disrepute - like if Liz had written things about DScrace's ex or others that could harm their business or other relationships. And I don't think she has done that. Liz could probably, justifiably, say everything she writes is firmly held personal opinion, which protects her if she says you're a terrible person in a general sense. And she's not out there claiming people are paedophiles for instance. Her sister WAS an alcoholic, that wasn't a lie. If the biggest lie she says about you is that you use Garnier Fructis, well, would you bother?

But she does write harmful and hurtful things, within the boundaries of what she can do legally IMO (as a person with no legal background but some understanding of these things from a media perspective).
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Old 17-10-2015, 10:49
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She's painting him as a foetid slob (with a bony arse no less) this week again.
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Old 17-10-2015, 12:34
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It's my understanding that legally speaking you would only want to sue if you've been brought into serious disrepute - like if Liz had written things about DScrace's ex or others that could harm their business or other relationships.
Her writing about her beau's general lack of hygiene could have been a factor in the evident recent decline of WAGFree.
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Old 17-10-2015, 14:20
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It's my understanding that legally speaking you would only want to sue if you've been brought into serious disrepute - like if Liz had written things about DScrace's ex or others that could harm their business or other relationships. And I don't think she has done that. Liz could probably, justifiably, say everything she writes is firmly held personal opinion, which protects her if she says you're a terrible person in a general sense. And she's not out there claiming people are paedophiles for instance. Her sister WAS an alcoholic, that wasn't a lie. If the biggest lie she says about you is that you use Garnier Fructis, well, would you bother?

But she does write harmful and hurtful things, within the boundaries of what she can do legally IMO (as a person with no legal background but some understanding of these things from a media perspective).
Very interesting, thanks Suzy.

It's so frustrating that these hacks can emotionally destroy people and get away with it as long as they know which lines to cross. Very sly, very nasty and something that makes my desire to support a free press waver.
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Old 18-10-2015, 10:41
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Her writing about her beau's general lack of hygiene could have been a factor in the evident recent decline of WAGFree.
Such a lawsuit in the event of a split would be glorious. Can you imagine the columns though. "I only wanted to help him... is it too much to ask.... I sat by and ate goat's milk cheese without complaint when he was ill.... gold Dunhill lighter.... I am too generous ... others always take advantage of me ... I was emotionally abused..."
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Old 18-10-2015, 13:55
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Very interesting, thanks Suzy.

It's so frustrating that these hacks can emotionally destroy people and get away with it as long as they know which lines to cross. Very sly, very nasty and something that makes my desire to support a free press waver.
Quite, Mirror Mirror - as you point out, very sly. I can't forget her spiteful, demeaning comments about Clare Balding and her clothes. How absolutely horrible that was. I have the lowest of the low opinion of the Daily Mail and MoS, but even they, surely, have sunk to the depths to permit her to get away with this sort of malicious stuff.

I did complain about her once, in writing, and my letter was not only published in the print edition but I received a reply from the newspaper - usual brush off stuff, no surprise there.

To be honest and balanced, she has in the past been a good and accomplished writer, often witty and eminently readable -she is capable of writing beautifully, especially in the days when she worked for the Sunday Times - and parts of her earlier books have lyrical passages, believe me. But now ... I so wish she'd stop all this unpleasant traducing of friends, relatives and The Baker, and her 'poor little old me' whining and whingeing. I have no idea what's happening to The Baker's business but I don't think her comments about his personal habits can have helped things.

Just trying to be fair - and hoping that Liz might read these comments. I'm a retired journalist myself, so know a thing or two! Oh, just added an edit: I have been absolutely distressed at her recounting the various catastrophes regarding her animals. Her dogs sound totally out of control and I am aghast at the risk her poor cats are in. Does she really still have seventeen of the poor things (including the cat belonging to The Baker's ex)? And keeping one of her cats alive long long after the suffering cat should have been put out of its misery - just heart-breaking. I don't know anything about horses, so can't comment about them, except that her horses seem to have a lot of 'problems'. Please tell me she's not collecting even some more.
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Old 18-10-2015, 14:44
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I wouldn't care a jot about the lies, the slating of strangers & family members and the (frankly totally unbelievable) engagement, if only she were entertaining! But no, every week's diary is a recycled hash of the previous week's, and this has been the case since she first made her deal with the baker. Boring boring boring. Nothing has happened in this woman's life in years, I don't even understand how she can call it a diary.
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Old 18-10-2015, 17:43
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Oh, just added an edit: I have been absolutely distressed at her recounting the various catastrophes regarding her animals. Her dogs sound totally out of control and I am aghast at the risk her poor cats are in. Does she really still have seventeen of the poor things (including the cat belonging to The Baker's ex)? And keeping one of her cats alive long long after the suffering cat should have been put out of its misery - just heart-breaking. I don't know anything about horses, so can't comment about them, except that her horses seem to have a lot of 'problems'. Please tell me she's not collecting even some more.
I can't even read her waffle about her animals anymore, it's just too upsetting. If anyone really believes this woman is some animal hero then they are completely blind to reality. How she doesn't get her poor pets removed by the RSPCA I don't know. Maddening.
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Old 18-10-2015, 17:57
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It seems more and more as if the Baker is suffering from some kind of (work-related?) depression. Still, at least he has a loving, supportive fiancee to show him some sympathy and not get on his case... Oh, wait.
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Old 18-10-2015, 18:18
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I can't even read her waffle about her animals anymore, it's just too upsetting. If anyone really believes this woman is some animal hero then they are completely blind to reality. How she doesn't get her poor pets removed by the RSPCA I don't know. Maddening.
I really did once think she loved animals. Then I read about her not training her dogs as it 'oppresses' them, next thing you know one of them has killed a sheep. She had a dog who was more than 12 years old, and it started bleeding - she (comically??) referred to it as a 'period'. Her dogs chew up everything she owns, 'stress-wee' all over the place, and attack passing cyclists. When her dogs attacked and terrorised her cat it was all David's fault....

Animal lover?
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Old 18-10-2015, 19:48
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It seems more and more as if the Baker is suffering from some kind of (work-related?) depression. Still, at least he has a loving, supportive fiancee to show him some sympathy and not get on his case... Oh, wait.
I thought that too.

Not bothering with personal hygiene, not sleeping, not cleaning his flat - it all points to depression. I know as I have a relative who suffers with it.

Mind you, I'd get depressed if I was in a relationship with a woman who does nothing but nag and criticise all the time.
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Old 18-10-2015, 21:59
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My beloved cat developed a little lump on her tail which I assumed was from an insect, or another cat biting her in a fight - but it grew amazingly fast, within a month and while for first few weeks, she ignored it, for three days in May, it obviously was hurting her - she couldn't leave it alone, kept biting and scratching at it and it was bleeding.

On the fourth day, I took her to the vet - diagnosis: a horribly aggressive and rapidly developing tumour, fast approaching her anus. Vet said she could last another month or so, but in pain and distress - amputation of the tail not an option. I decided, there and then, that my beloved cat should be euthanized, with the vet's, and her nurses', complete agreement. I could not bear the thought of her suffering even another day's discomfort which, the vet said, would soon turn from discomfort to real pain.

It broke my heart, but ... I let her go right away. She went without pain and, most important, wasn't 'kept going just for ME. 'cos I'd miss her so much ....' . I made the decision to end her life there and then, because I loved her and wanted the best for her, that she wouldn't suffer a drawn out painful month or so.

The 'Dreary' or wherever it was that Jones wrote about the lingering living death of one of her cats was totally harrowing and very much upset me. I'm feeling a bit weepy right now writing this, but like others, I am worried about the collection of animals Jones has accumulated. Sorry to get a bit emotional, but I keep thinking about those dogs and cats and horses she 'collects'.
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Old 18-10-2015, 22:31
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Having read through her latest word vomit I really am at a loss as to why the Fail keep the diary going. It's the same thing week after week and generates very few comments compared to the clickbait lure it used to be. There is not one reason for them to waste the bandwidth/paper on continuing the diary, so why do they?
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Old 18-10-2015, 22:54
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I can't feel too sorry for the Baker. Surely he would have had some inkling of what he was getting into when he got together with a troll like LJ? In fact, I always assumed their "relationship", which seems to be conducted entirely by text messages and emails, was ultimately some sort of business arrangement.

That he's seemed happy to sit by and let LJ write all sorts of things about his ex, while LJ also seems to have held the ex's cat hostage (please tell me that poor animal isn't still in her clutches), says to me he's not that innocent. Maybe he can't resist freebies like gold Dunhill lighters?
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Old 19-10-2015, 20:36
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My beloved cat developed a little lump on her tail which I assumed was from an insect, or another cat biting her in a fight - but it grew amazingly fast, within a month and while for first few weeks, she ignored it, for three days in May, it obviously was hurting her - she couldn't leave it alone, kept biting and scratching at it and it was bleeding.

On the fourth day, I took her to the vet - diagnosis: a horribly aggressive and rapidly developing tumour, fast approaching her anus. Vet said she could last another month or so, but in pain and distress - amputation of the tail not an option. I decided, there and then, that my beloved cat should be euthanized, with the vet's, and her nurses', complete agreement. I could not bear the thought of her suffering even another day's discomfort which, the vet said, would soon turn from discomfort to real pain.

It broke my heart, but ... I let her go right away. She went without pain and, most important, wasn't 'kept going just for ME. 'cos I'd miss her so much ....' . I made the decision to end her life there and then, because I loved her and wanted the best for her, that she wouldn't suffer a drawn out painful month or so.

The 'Dreary' or wherever it was that Jones wrote about the lingering living death of one of her cats was totally harrowing and very much upset me. I'm feeling a bit weepy right now writing this, but like others, I am worried about the collection of animals Jones has accumulated. Sorry to get a bit emotional, but I keep thinking about those dogs and cats and horses she 'collects'.
I'm so sorry, amikolaichek, that must have been absolutely heartbreaking. I hope that there was some comfort to be found in knowing that you had done the right thing and put your cat's welfare above all else. That's the real test of caring and love. I'm sure your cat had a wonderful life with you, and thanks to your selflessness she had the best "ending" possible, too. I can understand why all the animal stuff in the Diary upsets you so much.

As for the latest Diary developments....words fail me. Endless repetition, cutting and pasting of previous columns, rehashing the same old grievances, presenting herself as a victim no matter how badly she has behaved, rewriting history every time she gets called out on some previous nastiness....It really has gone beyond a spoof. The episode when she got in a huff because David had the cheek to be ill on her birthday was so unpleasant, I could hardly bear to think about it. If my partner was ill, birthday or no birthday, all my focus would be on feeling sorry for him and trying to make him feel better. The fact that she made the poor man feel guilty--to the extent that he ended up apologising for being ill--made me shudder.
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Old 20-10-2015, 02:23
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I agree
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Old 25-10-2015, 01:44
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I'm an insomniac - so first here to post re today's 'Dreary' (remember, dear fellow DSs, that the clocks go back at 2 a.m. Sunday). http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/you/...regret-it.html

Anyway, for the VERY FIRST TIME EVER, I poured myself a stiff gin - yes - in the wee small hours, - just go get through what even by the turgid depths of 'The Dreary' hits new lows.

What is the woman ON ABOUT? She wants him to 'live with her' until Christmas? But she's worried about his 'green' car not parked right, and not keeping an eye on the bloody dogs chewing up the soft furnishings ...but what about the dogs chewing up the CATS????

Please, please, Wail on Sunday, do the right thing and suggest that Jones goes for a nice, restful retirement. Pay her a 'Golden F*** Off' or whatever it takes. She is now beyond ludicrous.
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Old 25-10-2015, 01:31
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I'm trying to imagine what she thinks is going to happen after "the wedding". I mean most married couples live together.

You'd think anybody with half a brain would not have been gagging for a proposal from a boyfriend she had quickly ascertained was not compatible with her in terms of attitudes towards housekeeping etc. You'd think anybody with half a brain who was pushing 60 and previously married would be thinking "marriage is not right for us, let's just keep it as lovers". Or even, possibly: "I hate to admit this to myself but I don't even LIKE David. I shall break up with him so we can both get on with our lives."

But noooo. She's so hung up on her narrative - they meet after 30 years, she shy and wilting like a delicate flower who waited for him knowing as she always had that he was the love of her life, he jaded and cynical after decades of foolish choices, suddenly awakening to the realisation that The Girl With the Midnight Storm Hair was the one all along; they marry in church before their adoring and approving families and friends, and proceed to live in eternal bliss - that she won't actually admit that she's making a grievous error of judgment. And all presumably for clicks.
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Old 25-10-2015, 02:03
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Maybe, just maybe, if they do end up 'living together until Christmas' - and they don't actually kill each other during that time - one or both of them might just realise that it's never going to work out.

Or maybe not...
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