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Liz Jones - YOU magazine (Part 4)
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pixieboots
14-12-2015
Originally Posted by Lizzyroz:
“How unpleasant you make a change of name sound.

Her mother is Indian, not Pakistani and her father was a Belgian whose surname was Aertsens. When she was 10 her parents divorced and her mother married Andrew Knight which accounts for the use of his surname.”

How conspiratorial you make a teasing comment sound.
According to Lynn Barber who interviewed her years ago Knight herself claimed then her mother was Pakistani, not Indian.
http://www.theguardian.com/books/200...ction.features

Back to LJ, she's one of those people that treats close family like muck and strangers/acquaintances like royalty. Whats the word for them?
Bellagio
16-12-2015
Further to the current status of WAGfree - despite telling me different when I asked, the website remains resolutely unupdated, and the most recent entry from the company on their Facebook page is still March 23rd.
sunstone
16-12-2015
Originally Posted by Bellagio:
“Further to the current status of WAGfree - despite telling me different when I asked, the website remains resolutely unupdated, and the most recent entry from the company on their Facebook page is still March 23rd.”

Well it was never going to be good for business when the person who does the baking is in effect called out as a filthy slob on the internet.
newbaby
17-12-2015
Originally Posted by Bellagio:
“Further to the current status of WAGfree - despite telling me different when I asked, the website remains resolutely unupdated, and the most recent entry from the company on their Facebook page is still March 23rd.”

Seem to remember that a few weeks ago in the Diary, LJ sent a text (one wonders if they sent texts to one another whilst sitting side by side on the hideous pink sofa in the Chateau Jones withdrawing room) suggesting that he go with her to Yorkshire until after Christmas - the carrot of stopping at Castle Howard to buy food was dangled. Clearly job situation wobbly for the suggestion to have been made.
seawitch
18-12-2015
Hilarious spoof of LJ and Katie Hopkins in the latest "Private Eye" with the two of them pouring venom over everything Christmassy. LJ blames Father Christmas for her lousy childhood because she was not allowed to go straight to the front of the queue and he ignored her request for a four-bedroom Georgian house with twenty acres, a stable and a paddock.
Suzy_Cat
19-12-2015
Originally Posted by newbaby:
“the carrot of stopping at Castle Howard to buy food was dangled. Clearly job situation wobbly for the suggestion to have been made.”

Conversely, if Liz is as genuinely dense and self-absorbed as she presents herself to be, then the Dirty Baker could be beset by the bailiffs before she'd notice that anything was amiss. She'd probably think he cleaned up "to please her" and would momentarily wonder why he got rid of all the furniture before concluding that he now expected her to pay for replacements (cue litany of classic LJ woes here).

I don't think Liz understands the concept of other people's work schedules. She would just assume that because it is "the holidays", he'd be off work. Conversely if HE assumed that she wasn't working because it's a public holiday, all hell would break loose.

It would be nice to think that Liz deliberately leaves out her partner's business problems in her column, like a normal person with ethics and standards would, but given she (apparently) transcribes their text conversations and goes on about his personal hygiene, family members and enjoyment of soft drugs, and was not shy about sharing her own family's problems without their permission, I can't see that happening. So, she's simply clueless about any financial woes he's experiencing. After all, SHE is typing a million words a year and refusing her drowsiness-inducing anti anxiety meds, all because he won't clean up his flat enough for her to agree to sleep in it. Her worries trump his.
Bellagio
19-12-2015
Surely her forthcoming novel will, at a stroke, solve her financial problems. After all, her last book was such an amazi...

Ah.

Speaking of novels, this should amuse:

http://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/...a-9564193.html
Bellagio
20-12-2015
From the latest Dreary (actually, it's mostly a list, and a tedious one at that):

"I’ve told him I’m not doing the Christmas party thing this year (only Geoffrey’s party, next weekend; I’m thinking that will probably be enough material for a two-parter, given I’ve not seen Geoff since 1984, and he was witness to my unrequited lust for David, then his housemate)"

Rumbled.
cambs1965
20-12-2015
How many labels can you name in one article? If the baker doesn't buy any of them at least she might get the freebies, but with her reputation in the fashion world perhaps not.
Lizzyroz
20-12-2015
Quote:
“‘Soooo,’ I said to Nic. ‘If David emails or Facebooks you to ask what he should buy me for Christmas, can you tell him the Keswick cream cable knit from Topshop, in a medium.’”

Ooh. Top Shop, so probably quite cheap for Liz.
Looked it up. 175 quid. And there was I thinking she'd been reasonable.

http://www.topshop.com/en/tsuk/produ...040?bi=1&ps=20

Quote:
“ A duchesse satin dress with feathers from Topshop is perfect (and over £500!).”

As if he'd be able to afford that. Quite apart from the fact Liz would look like a rake with a bit of satin wrapped round it if she wore it.

http://www.topshop.com/en/tsuk/produ...08?bi=1&ps=200
Suzy_Cat
20-12-2015
"Can you see a pattern here?"

Yes. He used to have some money and now he has none. Which is why he's not buying you a Diptyque candle for every month of the year yadda yadda.

The addendum about David being "so obsessed" with her seems so forced. She's trying so hard to present herself as desired and therefore desirable and worthy, in spite of her vile behaviours.

I also find the whole pattern of this dreary quite nonplussing: we have "in which he dumps me", followed by "in which he sends me an email", "in which I witter on about my dog", and now they're obviously back together as if nothing happened and the readers are supposed to be cool with it. You can't just write about two characters (you imagine) your readers are invested in and then leave out a humongous chunk of narrative around a crucial plot point.
Trudi Monk
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by Suzy_Cat:
“"Can you see a pattern here?"

Yes. He used to have some money and now he has none. Which is why he's not buying you a Diptyque candle for every month of the year yadda yadda.

The addendum about David being "so obsessed" with her seems so forced. She's trying so hard to present herself as desired and therefore desirable and worthy, in spite of her vile behaviours.

I also find the whole pattern of this dreary quite nonplussing: we have "in which he dumps me", followed by "in which he sends me an email", "in which I witter on about my dog", and now they're obviously back together as if nothing happened and the readers are supposed to be cool with it. You can't just write about two characters (you imagine) your readers are invested in and then leave out a humongous chunk of narrative around a crucial plot point.”

You can if you're not a very good writer.
fizzycat
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by Trudi Monk:
“You can if you're not a very good writer.”

...and if you've been getting away with it for years.

Am I imagining things or didn't she have a rant about Primark etc when she was doing her Mother Theresa act and highlighting the plight of factory workers in the developing world? So why are their fake Uggs on the acceptable list?

Can't be because our Lizzie is a hypocrite, can it?
sunstone
21-12-2015
I seem to recall her her slagging off people she was with in big brother for wearing Primark. Using it as an insult for them being common though and not from any moral standpoint.
sunstone
21-12-2015
Many have better memories than me,but wasn't the Mother Theresa phase when the Daily Mail tried to turn her into some sort of Kate Adie type ( not sure if pee take)?
Only thing that sticks in my mind from those preposterous reports was the one where she envied the women of Somalia for just "being" thin whereas poor LJ has to starve for the sake of beauty.
seventhwave
21-12-2015
Originally Posted by sunstone:
“Many have better memories than me,but wasn't the Mother Theresa phase when the Daily Mail tried to turn her into some sort of Kate Adie type ( not sure if pee take)?
Only thing that sticks in my mind from those preposterous reports was the one where she envied the women of Somalia for just "being" thin whereas poor LJ has to starve for the sake of beauty.”

There was the infamous article where she went to Bristol to retrace the last known moments of a murder victim and wrote about it in the manner of a lifestyle piece, commenting on the victim's choice of pizza, the bar where she was last seen before her death (which Liz wishes had been "lovelier") and criticising the local authorities for replacing antique streetlights with brighter ones in response to safety concerns over the murder. Still doesn't top her jaw-dropping comments about Somalian women being thin though ...

There was also another one at that time where she visited a local clinic in some impoverished country and then ranted about how, back in the UK, a GP's surgery that she isn't even registered with refused to give her an appointment at short notice. Or was that the Somalia one too?
sunstone
21-12-2015
Yes,the Joanna Yeates piece was truly dreadful,turning into a rant about Lizbot not having change for the suspension bridge iirc,I will not go and re click it.
The GP one was the Somalia trip yes,her private gp wouldn't give her the jabs or something so the uncaring NHS staff didn't cancel other appointments to cater to the famous journo on a crucial mercy mission.
seventhwave
21-12-2015
Originally Posted by sunstone:
“Yes,the Joanna Yeates piece was truly dreadful,turning into a rant about Lizbot not having change for the suspension bridge iirc,I will not go and re click it.”

IIRC she talked about trying to put in a White Company button (our Lizzie wouldn't settle for less) and then said something like "How can we let someone snatch away a girl's life but have elaborate systems in place to prevent you from cheating the bridge toll?" At which point a not at all fictional taxi driver came to the rescue and paid it, so the poor people stuck behind her were saved

I also remember one earlier in the year when she went to Greece to report on the financial crisis (lamenting how sad it was that the beautiful land of ouzo and yoghurt was struggling so, but there was still organic quinoa at her hotel so it's all OK really) Thankfully however they seem to be giving her less of those and just letting her drag out the Dreary every week ...
Yve_Hamilton_Br
21-12-2015
The Dreary reads as if she is barking mad, I am afraid. How else to explain how someone who is just embarking on severe personal financial restrictions, presumably ordered by a Court, and with a boyfriend who has even less money and assets, discuss pressies that are out of both of thems price range?

I can only assume it's supposed to be amusing, but it honestly isn't and the MoS makes itself look ridiculous for allowing this to go on. We like humorous columns in our magazines and newspapers, but Liz is neither, so what hold has she got over them for this to be allowed?
sunstone
21-12-2015
Well for me she always was just a joke.What with the umpty million cotton thread sheets and all
.Then THOSE articles.

Going in her mum's bedroom with a DM photographer, in her overcoat with a plastic pinny on.She wonders why her family don't like her??
IFonly58
22-12-2015
She has been taking the mickey out of the readers for years and it shows no sign of letting up. How else to explain her on/off/on relationship other than to drag it out so she has something to pad out her "diary". I think the relationship is pretty much all in her mind now (like the RS saga).
Incidentally, her obsession with 1984 is getting creepy now.
And why, after being humiliated constantly in public over their entire lifestyle, looks, hygiene etc. and after having the "wedding" cancelled would you even consider playing happy families with her at Christmas?.
PS her supporters make reference to her "humour" - but did anyone else split their sides laughing at her attempt at a "joke" in this weeks diary? Liz- if you have to re-read it a dozen times to untangle the clunky grammar and syntax it's not much of a joke is it??
Suzy_Cat
27-12-2015
"I seriously do not want to see him again. Ever. Ever. Ever."

Please God let us hope so.

The label list at the start is somewhat hilarious given she's supposedly insolvent. I am assuming that Liz is being paid for this label-dropping.
Yve_Hamilton_Br
27-12-2015
But another article in the MoS says he went up to hers for Christmas (with a toy ukulele and a dead poinsettia)!!
David Wright
27-12-2015
Am still rather hung over from Xmas excess but did I really read (in her newspaper column) that members of the public have sent Liz thousands of pounds for Christmas?
Paula Panzer
27-12-2015
Originally Posted by David Wright:
“Am still rather hung over from Xmas excess but did I really read (in her newspaper column) that members of the public have sent Liz thousands of pounds for Christmas? ”

Cards, not money. Not that she's admitted to this time, anyway.
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