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I think "competitive anorexia" is just part of the illness for some sufferers, and so she cant be blamed for it.
I just wish her claims had been edited out before it was published, because like you say, it can be very very dangerous to others. I am glad that she appears to be staying well. ![]() A lot of Jones' stuff is competitive when you think about it. Competitive about labels, competitive about suffering. NOBODY has it worse than Jones, NOBODY works harder, NOBODY is victimised more, NOBODY cares about animals as much, NOBODY is more slighted and maligned, and so on and so forth. I wonder if it's related. It certainly doesn't seem to be the viewpoint of a well person, and it's frequently contradictory. |
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I think "competitive anorexia" is just part of the illness for some sufferers, and so she cant be blamed for it.
I just wish her claims had been edited out before it was published, because like you say, it can be very very dangerous to others. I am glad that she appears to be staying well. ![]() Speaking for myself, although I don't wish harm upon her I find it so difficult to have any patience with Liz Jones for a number of reasons even though with some stuff am on the same page as her. Increasingly she just winds up people, for money basically, and it certainly works ! Agree about the competitive aspect of anorexia. In a darkly funny way (cos sometimes with what life throws at you finding a dark-ish sense of humour can keep you this side of sane), it's become apparent to me that all sorts of illness can bring about an almost vain competitive side in human nature for some. How mad is that ? Guess it's just another facet to the mysterious condition of personality !
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I'm currently working with someone who is like that, and it's not limited to illness: whatever you've done, or experienced, she's gone one better, or worse. Initially amusing, it soon palled and then became actively and increasingly annoying.
Unfortunately, for us, she became pregnant roughly three minutes into a new relationship (she's 24) and man is she milking it for all it's worth ? Yes, she is. Been having Braxton-Hicks daily since about four months. We can't wait for the maternity leave... |
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I'm currently working with someone who is like that, and it's not limited to illness: whatever you've done, or experienced, she's gone one better, or worse. Initially amusing, it soon palled and then became actively and increasingly annoying.
Unfortunately, for us, she became pregnant roughly three minutes into a new relationship (she's 24) and man is she milking it for all it's worth ? Yes, she is. Been having Braxton-Hicks daily since about four months. We can't wait for the maternity leave...
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I'm currently working with someone who is like that, and it's not limited to illness: whatever you've done, or experienced, she's gone one better, or worse. Initially amusing, it soon palled and then became actively and increasingly annoying.
Unfortunately, for us, she became pregnant roughly three minutes into a new relationship (she's 24) and man is she milking it for all it's worth ? Yes, she is. Been having Braxton-Hicks daily since about four months. We can't wait for the maternity leave... |
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Good news and bad news for Domino Darling.
Tomorrow's Diary has the FB exchange. Except it is not identified as having taken place on Facebook, or that she was using David's account and they were private messages. Waah waah, poor Liz was insulted and David doesn't care, the taxman is making her sell her home at a loss. God but she is a terrible writer now for someone who used be sort of able to string a sentence together. |
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Good news and bad news for Domino Darling.
Tomorrow's Diary has the FB exchange. Except it is not identified as having taken place on Facebook, or that she was using David's account and they were private messages.
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Sorry she does say it was David's FB, and that she looked at his page because she was alone in a hotel???!! She doesn't say they were private messages though and 'laws' (lawyers, bless them) prevent her from printing the content.
I barely skim the wretched thing to be honest, hence my mistake. She does drone on again about cocainegate and India Knight's now legendary comment. The taxman reads her column and persecutes her because she's getting married. (Is she?) |
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Good news and bad news for Domino Darling.
Tomorrow's Diary has the FB exchange. Except it is not identified as having taken place on Facebook, or that she was using David's account and they were private messages. Waah waah, poor Liz was insulted and David doesn't care, the taxman is making her sell her home at a loss. God but she is a terrible writer now for someone who used be sort of able to string a sentence together. Well - looks like the worst may come to the worst. Is The Baker going to come up trumps, transform his Brixton home into a suitable abode for Jones? Change the polyester sheets occasionally, replace the bathroom light-bulb when it goes out? Brush his hair? Cut his fingernails, the better not to snag those already threadbare Myla thongs? Stop keeping veggies in his fridge that are a few minutes after their 'Use By' date? Clean up the garden to accommodate the horses (forget how many she has now), welcome the untrained, stress-weeing, furniture/cat/sheep* eating dogs? And the seventeen pussies? And, please, this Easter weekend, merciful God, will the eighteenth cat. Prudence, be finally restored to her rightful owner? *Being a North London resident, I am unsure as to the agricultural aspect of Brixton, it being' sarf' of the river. Do sheep still pasture there? |
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Oh NO Lizzie. What DID that evil "Garnier Fructis Woman" (still using a shampoo that's been discontinued for ages) say to you? Do tell, we can't wait ...
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Then someone must point this out in the comments.
![]() I've tried to post stuff over the last few months and even though my comments have been pretty innocuous they never get published. |
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Oh God, oh God, vampyre, now I shan't sleep a wink for worrying about Jones until I read tomorrow's 'Cut 'n Paste' Dreary. Having to sell her home a loss .... pass me another box of tissues, someone. How really really cruel of the taxman - doesn't he realise that those Myla thongs COST when it comes to her one-off, one-on dry-cleaning bill, then those VB frocks are EXPENSIVE, as presumably she doesn't get a hefty discount there ....let alone sent red roses with their petals turned inside out and upside down before VB fashion shows - to which she's apparently no longer invited. Plus the absolute necessity of lashing out on gold (plated) Dunhill lighters, 'Moribund Blue' cashmere (or whatever the hell the sweater's colour was) for The Baker, all those essential trips to be de-furred, botoxed, hair Midnight-Stormed, and the purchase of those essential Bliss Softening Brain ... sorry, Bliss Softening Socks. Etc. etc. etc. Oh, nasty taxman, how cruel, very cruel you can be.
Well - looks like the worst may come to the worst. Is The Baker going to come up trumps, transform his Brixton home into a suitable abode for Jones? Change the polyester sheets occasionally, replace the bathroom light-bulb when it goes out? Brush his hair? Cut his fingernails, the better not to snag those already threadbare Myla thongs? Stop keeping veggies in his fridge that are a few minutes after their 'Use By' date? Clean up the garden to accommodate the horses (forget how many she has now), welcome the untrained, stress-weeing, furniture/cat/sheep* eating dogs? And the seventeen pussies? And, please, this Easter weekend, merciful God, will the eighteenth cat. Prudence, be finally restored to her rightful owner? *Being a North London resident, I am unsure as to the agricultural aspect of Brixton, it being' sarf' of the river. Do sheep still pasture there? The rescue animals, ie sanctuary (ha!), ie tax dodge. |
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Dry clean only knickers. Who the Hell wants to touch them after one of her couplings with the baker, or does she take them off beforehand and keep them for another day? Either way it's vile.
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So she owns what, four pairs of knickers now? Two black Myla thongs that she exchanged at Christmas but are apparently still the same pairs the Baker bought her (*cough*TriggersBroom*cough*), + two dry clean only Marc Jacobs pairs? My goodness she is branching out!
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So she owns what, four pairs of knickers now? Two black Myla thongs that she exchanged at Christmas but are apparently still the same pairs the Baker bought her (*cough*TriggersBroom*cough*), + two dry clean only Marc Jacobs pairs? My goodness she is branching out!
Result: I have thirty six pairs of M & S 'cotton rich' knickers. All, ahem, between size 10 and size 14. And all pristine, either snowy white or deep black. Also, all are unsnagged by long, dough-encrusted human fingernails - me being ( most of the time), a blameless widow since 1992. AND, please note, only cleaning these garments have ever known is in Persil Non-Bio, in my trusty AEG washing machine. But I do also own eighteen pairs of pure silk nicks - after all, when visiting doctor, hospital, osteopath for some appointment that involves revealing parts usually hidden, I do aspire to appear an up market old but game 'Merry Widow' rather than an arthritic-ridden doddery ancient crone. So my La Perla, La Senza and other pure silk pants, many from Fenwicks in Bond Street, and even including a couple from M & S (hard to find these days) are part of the silky inventory. AND - after even the briefest wearing, I WASH THEM MYSELF, in some gentle solution for 'delicates' - either in the machine or by hand. And I can assure you all, gentle readers, and Jones (I'm certain she reads DS avidly), my silkies are still good as new. Um - another thought - if HMRC are also reading her 'Drearies' and 'Farticles' and being disobliging about how she can afford to get married, they might subtly tell her how, at least, she could cut down on her dry-cleaning bills. More later ... now decided to make an inventory of my bras. |
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Oh NO Lizzie. What DID that evil "Garnier Fructis Woman" (still using a shampoo that's been discontinued for ages) say to you? Do tell, we can't wait ...
#4330 and then, came this (both posts on 3rd March this year): Dominodarling Forum Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 30 Me - your ducking girlfriend calls me garnier fructis woman in print again I swear I'll pluck every one of her dyed storm black hairs from her mean head and just leave her with the big ones on her chin. She's a bully and you can do better. Rant over. I can only assume after this weeks effort that you are no longer with liz - although you have put up with more than most. Could I therefore ask the whereabouts and safety of prudence. LJ -Didn't you advertise your dog on Facebook when you got back from Australia and your assisted housing wouldnt take pets? Do you know that's how dog fighting gangs get their victims? Me -It was on Facebook to my friends. And I kept him anyway. Why would you say this mean thing? Me -Oh I get it - hi liz! You are very sad And it wasn't assisted housing. It was a flat. LJ -You're the sad one. Facebook? How old are you, 12? So the dog is in Australia is he? Prudence came to me with terrible sores and is now very happy, eating quality food. You are the mean one: have you seen what you wrote about me? You think you are so left wing yet you write that about another woman: calling you a shampoo is hardly on the same level. You called me a She Devil before I had even been on a date with David I rescue dogs and cats, I don't abandon them Me - David and I used to call you that when we were together and reading your sad stories about him so it was normal to call you that on a text to him. He was my best friend at the time. My dog is with my son. David asked to keep prudence. She was not in that state when I left her. You should be ashamed of yourself. A grown woman saying such things in print about your so called love and his friends and family. But you won't be ashamed as you are not normal. Am I 12 - omg how many times do you repeat the same sad lines. Me - Get a life woman. And stop bullying David And to just clarify. I'm on Facebook as I have lived in 3 countries and actually have some good friends and we stay part of each other's lives. But you wouldn't understand that would you as you have alienated everyone apart from David who used to be such a funny, likeable, happy person. LJ -Why dont you get a life instead of obsessing over my columns? You would email David to say I had written a nasty piece about some celebrity, but would never email him when I wrote a piece about famine, or elephant abuse, or dog abuse. No you are lying. He showed me a text on our first date from you, calling me a She Devil. You are a born trouble maker. A grandmother calling a another such vile names, you should be ashamed of yourself. And if you thought his flat was clean then you must be dirty as well Me -I cleaned his flat when I lived there. We called you a she devil together which is why I referred to you as that in my text to him. I'm not dirty and I'm not a trouble maker. You are a trouble maker though. And a very rude one at that. Why should I email him when you write about elephants? I don't read your articles. I check the 'diary' out of curiosity re my ex as I'm rather concerned about the way you treat him and to check it out as you have references to me. I think that's normal. I wouldn't ordinarily read such drivel. You should be ashamed of yourself making money out of belittling and bullying people. I would be pleased that David had found someone closer to his age if that person wasn't so damaging to his health and well being. LJ -What things in print about his friends and family. I have never written a negative word about his ex wife, his son, or his family; in fact, after an awful wedding in Scotland, I wrote how lovely it was, and perfect. His friends posted lies about me on the internet; I have never posted a lie about them Me -You said his son was rude! LJ - What is wrong with that? He is rude! He let David down and ruined his plans Me -But you printed it. Can you seriously not see how bad this is LJ - How ageist are you????? Wow whod have thought a yoga instructor was so sexist and ageist LJ -Can you not see how manipulative you are. Have David back. I will email him now and tell him Me - And the disgusting things you write about David I'm married. I don't want him back. Grow up woman! And I'm not ageist just truthful which is what you say you are. I'm also not a yoga instructor LJ -Photo looks pretty yoga-y to me. You are sexist and ageist, Grandma Me -Pilates darling. And you think you aren't sexist and ageist. Fact - you are older than me. I'm a grandmother because I have children - nothing to do with age. I'm younger than you. Are you sore because all that time you were living next to David and hankering after him, he was with me. Is that the problem you have with me? LJ -You are the one who snidely wrote, and I quote, 'I would be pleased that David had found someone closer to his age' I dont have any problem with you other than you calling me disgusting names and dripping poison in David's ear. Each child adds 10 years Me - See your real self comes to the fore in your last sentence. If I was as bitchy as you I would say that you must therefore have a dozen children, but I'm not going to. You are seriously mad LJ You are deluded ( she said) LJ if you love David so much why not pay him back for the car he gave you Me -Go away Me - It was my car! I gave it to him when I came to oz for the first time. He gave it back to me when I returned. I bought it off my daughter a few years ago. Get your facts straight LJ - stop stalking me LJ - Not what David told me Me -Well you obv don't have the truth. It was mine for years. Bless you, are you not being told the truth now. I bought it from my daughter when she got pregnant as it was a two seater. LJ He texted you to ask you to pay for it Me -He had it serviced when I was away. He asked me to pay him back for the service. But since the service was to give it to you, I declined. Now stop stalking me and go away. I didn't contact you. You contacted me by using your boyfriends messenger and pretending to be him. LJ I wouldn't want an old rusty tin can, you're joking! I didnt pretend to be him he had the page open on my computer. Go away, you must be late for your bubble perm appointment Me -My hair is natural. You think you are so clever yet you can't see that you are mean and nasty. LJ So your message to David wasn't nasty? looks like a perm Me -Well it's not. It's curly and you can say what you like about it. I don't care at all. Go away LJ -Are you happy for me to print your comments? No. I don't want you to print anything about me. It is a violation of my privacy. Grow up. Write about something interesting instead of this constant 'he said, she said' drivel. What are you 12? Don't you have an actual life to write about? Now leave me alone. LJ I do write lots of other things actually, a million words a year, and six books. Stop interfering and get on with your own life Me -Yawn Enjoy! See, Lizard, it's all still out there! |
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She's a grade A cow. She was told explicitly by DD that she wasn't to publish the conversation and her own version of it in the dire-y is a pathetic attempt to garner sympathy. She has a moment of realisation that writing about her life gets her into trouble but the compulsion for attention and thinking she's in the right all the time will hardly stop her.
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This one, I feel, requires some sporking. I shall fast-forward first to the DD exchange:
I was in a hotel room, alone, so I looked at his Facebook page. And there was a message. From his ex. To him. A private message. That Liz could see, which means she was logged in as him. Due to the new privacy laws, that don’t protect me from members of the public posting on Mumsnet that they saw me taking cocaine at a private party, or other columnists writing on Twitter that I indulge in bestiality and am a c***, I am not allowed to tell you what she wrote. Times have changed since I published, unedited, my ex-husband’s email conversation with his mistress, the dreaded Daphne. Thank goodness Liz has reiterated the probably baseless claims she was snorting coke several years ago, otherwise nobody would remember it or give a shit (and she doesn't strike me as a cokehead. Secret tippler, maybe.) All I can say is that there was a reference to my postmenopausal beard which she talks about constantly; probably about a third of the million words a year are dedicated to it and the fact she would be happy that David had found someone closer to his own age, if I weren’t so mad. THE HORROR. We had a lengthy argument, which I ended by saying she must be late for her bubble perm appointment. I had tried to inject humour into the whole childish business, but it’s obvious she has none. This is rich and classic LJ. She read an admittedly snotty PRIVATE message meant for DD's FRIEND, not for her, went on the offensive and then reframes it as some kind of harmless jape/expression of kindness. But it upset me. Everything about this relationship upsets me. Don't be in it then. Leaving out the DD stuff, just look at how she describes this relationship. HOW can you plan to marry someone you won't allow in a hotel with you because you have your nose out of joint over his untidy flat? WHAT person "in love" or even "in like" won't let someone dine with them because they don't DESERVE it? She's always complaining that he never asks her anything, but when he asks her when is she home, she "ignored his question". ‘I give my film to the movie star in April, so am frantically working on that. No point telling you her name, as you won’t have seen any of her films.’ Nobody talks or writes like this. NOBODY. After working without a break since 1980, I will soon be left with nothing. Nothing. Nothing. But what about the psychic's promises? THE DRAMA. Also, odds on next week's column being all about designer this and I spent all this money on that? Pretty high, I'd say. |
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So, there are now TWO fake movie stars: the one that Liz sat next to at a "swanky lunch" in the Mandarin Oriental, and the one who's supposedly bought her film script. I know very little about the film industry so I may well be wrong, but ... isn't it more usual for scripts to be sold to a director or producer?
Also, I sincerely doubt HMRC or anyone else told Liz that she wasn't allowed to get married. Getting married would cost £35 each to give notice at the local registry office, the cost of the actual marriage certificate (which isn't much ... I think £10-£20?) and around £100, maybe a little more, to pay for the church or registrar. The maximum would be about £200 and between them and their families, I'm sure they could come up with this. What I suspect they actually objected to was her plans to marry in a sprawling country hotel and wear Louboutins, plus her splashing out for a "hen night" at a spa seven months before the planned wedding (which has now not materialised.) Never mind, Lizbot. Aren't you supposed to marry this rich American soon? |
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So, there are now TWO fake movie stars: the one that Liz sat next to at a "swanky lunch" in the Mandarin Oriental, and the one who's supposedly bought her film script. I know very little about the film industry so I may well be wrong, but ... isn't it more usual for scripts to be sold to a director or producer?
Also, I sincerely doubt HMRC or anyone else told Liz that she wasn't allowed to get married. Getting married would cost £35 each to give notice at the local registry office, the cost of the actual marriage certificate (which isn't much ... I think £10-£20?) and around £100, maybe a little more, to pay for the church or registrar. The maximum would be about £200 and between them and their families, I'm sure they could come up with this. What I suspect they actually objected to was her plans to marry in a sprawling country hotel and wear Louboutins, plus her splashing out for a "hen night" at a spa seven months before the planned wedding (which has now not materialised.) Never mind, Lizbot. Aren't you supposed to marry this rich American soon? Still, perhaps Jones is flogging 'Sex and the Brixton Hovel' or some such idea ... I bet Hollywood can't wait. |
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(myla) Briefs Encounter?
Love on a Pillar? The horse (Lizzy) the dog (Michael) the cat (Prudence) and his lover? |
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Oh dearie me, just re-reading today's 'Dreary' - and I quote:
HMRC had read about my upcoming wedding in my column, which had set them dead against me: ‘You can’t afford to get married,’ they told me. And if you think, well, this is all her fault, think again: have you ever hired an accountant? Because my experience is they make mistakes, don’t reply to direct questions on email, charge exorbitant fees, give you less than a day to approve your accounts, and hang you out to dry. Well, I bet her (current? ex?) accountant is thrilled to read that. I do have experience of accountants, including a problem with HMRC (see earlier posts) where accountants plus my cooperation, sorted to everyone's, including HMRC's, satisfaction. I paid up my back tax and didn't whinge and moan and whine - I bloody well owed it. I'd just suggest to Jones, that IF you co-operate with your accountant, tell him/her what's what, submit boring stuff like what you've been paid, what you can claim in expenses, details of mortgage etc. etc. and all the rest .... then the accountants CAN SORT IT ALL OUT for you. And- how boring - you submit all these details IN TIME - not at the last minute. From what Jones writes about her accountant, well, I'd love to see her accountant's response. 'Hang her out to dry, give her less than a day to approve accounts' etc. etc. You send in your accounts IN TIME, you silly woman. Oh please. Just more and more 'poor me' crap. |
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Film Script
Is the film script" actually based on her deceased brother's novel she mentions? In which case, who actually owns the copyright?
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I wonder if she genuinely believes that if she writes about her Myla pants, Dunhill lighters and Dyptique candles that means she can write them off against tax? Same goes for all her holidays (that she hasn't had since 1980) - does she really believe all those trips can be written off if she writes about them? I expect this, combined with her profligate spending, could be the roote of her financial problems.
None of which will be her fault, of course. And wouldn't have happened if she'd been a posh white man. |
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My God those FB messages. LJ literally sounds psychotic.
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