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Old 24-04-2016, 13:32
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' I’ve always tried to help others, but no one helps me. People are always doing Nic favours – giving her appliances, lifting water containers, sending her dog food and electric heaters and Apple watches – but still no one helps me…

Oh, unless I pay through the nose, of course, and even then they moan, and rip me off.'


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Translation: I've given Nic loads and she has the temerity to have her own life and friends away from me. MY employee should be beholden to ME at all times.
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Old 24-04-2016, 13:47
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2 books on Prince by Liz apparently, but I'd imagine the later one is just a rehash.
Looks as if all she ever did was interview people who knew him, so a bit of a swizz really, and reviews not fabulous either.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Purple-Reig...z+jones+prince

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Slave-Rhyth...z+jones+prince
Looks like this is the same book with different titles in the UK and US. And it didn't go down too well wither side of the Atlantic.
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Old 24-04-2016, 13:55
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I note that in her Prince piece she says he flirted with her. I suppose there are men who flirt with anything female, but I seriously do not think that someone like him, who could pretty much have any beautiful woman he wanted and probably did, would flirt with Liz Jones. For someone with low self-esteem, she has an extraordinarily high opinion of herself.
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Old 24-04-2016, 13:59
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I note that in her Prince piece she says he flirted with her. I suppose there are men who flirt with anything female, but I seriously do not think that someone like him, who could pretty much have any beautiful woman he wanted and probably did, would flirt with Liz Jones. For someone with low self-esteem, she has an extraordinarily high opinion of herself.
In that case she's telling porkies. Her book(s) are only repeated stuff from the people she interviewed who knew him. She never actually met him face to face at all.
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Old 24-04-2016, 14:02
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She sayeth: 'I eventually met him in 1996, when I travelled to Minneapolis, and to his studio complex, Paisley Park. I was writing his biography and he had a new album. The timing, however, was terrible: only days before his son had died.

BUT Prince didn’t cancel. Instead, he gave me a tour of the studio, sitting to play at each of his pianos, demonstrating how different surfaces – wood, carpet, lino – produced different sounds. All I could focus on was his hands: long, bony and perfectly manicured.

At first, I was so nervous I was stammering. He made fun of me: ‘Y-y-yess L-l-lizzie, sp- sp-spit the question out!’

He was an outrageous flirt. My opening sentence was: ‘I am so happy to be able to do you’ – meaning, interview him for a Sunday supplement; I have the framed cover in my office.
‘Oh, you want to do me?’ he said.'
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Old 24-04-2016, 14:09
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She sayeth: 'I eventually met him in 1996, when I travelled to Minneapolis, and to his studio complex, Paisley Park. I was writing his biography and he had a new album. The timing, however, was terrible: only days before his son had died.

BUT Prince didn’t cancel. Instead, he gave me a tour of the studio, sitting to play at each of his pianos, demonstrating how different surfaces – wood, carpet, lino – produced different sounds. All I could focus on was his hands: long, bony and perfectly manicured.

At first, I was so nervous I was stammering. He made fun of me: ‘Y-y-yess L-l-lizzie, sp- sp-spit the question out!’

He was an outrageous flirt. My opening sentence was: ‘I am so happy to be able to do you’ – meaning, interview him for a Sunday supplement; I have the framed cover in my office.
‘Oh, you want to do me?’ he said.'
Cringe.
True or false, it's truly cringe inducing.
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Old 24-04-2016, 14:11
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I'm surprised her inner goddess didn't leap up and down punching the air, or some sht like that.
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Old 24-04-2016, 14:19
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Her story is borne out by the fact that there exists a Sunday Times Magazine cover with him on it, from December 1996, and she was working there then.

However, I suspect she has embroidered some details.
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Old 24-04-2016, 14:24
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Cringe.
True or false, it's truly cringe inducing.
Its like how my Father in law flirts, he's 83 and therefore its funny. I doubt Prince in his prime would have been so deeply uncool.
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Old 24-04-2016, 14:31
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Her story is borne out by the fact that there exists a Sunday Times Magazine cover with him on it, from December 1996, and she was working there then.

However, I suspect she has embroidered some details.
Most of it I'd imagine. Including the actual meeting. A magazine cover with Prince on it proves nothing really.
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Old 24-04-2016, 14:35
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Most of it I'd imagine. Including the actual meeting. A magazine cover with Prince on it proves nothing really.
Well no, you have a point. But she has referred to her interviewing him in print before for a Sunday supplement in 1996 so if it were someone else who had conducted the interview, I imagine that person would have said "Oi! Jones! That was my interview!", or something.
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Old 24-04-2016, 17:22
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Wow! her passive-aggressiveness is not her most attractive character trait is it? Just behind her peevishness, self-pity, lack of empathy etc etc. Form an orderly queue guys !!
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Old 24-04-2016, 18:33
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Of course, I can't find it now, but I've seen an early Prince forum where it was pointed out that the "interview" was stolen from someone else.

Eh... got it: from the prince.org forum (entirely unofficial):

"I'd have to discredit Purple Reign (also known as Slave To The Rhythm) by Liz Jones. She did nothing but pull most of her book from the Oprah interview, and NEVER once gave Oprah credit. Much of the other stuff is lifted from other published sources too, with no credit whatsoever. It's more of an editorial piece than a true look at Prince. Do not spend your money on it, or waste your time reading it. It's all ridiculous. Possessed by Hahn truly fills in the gaps that Liz Jones left out (because she didnt do any homework)."
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Old 24-04-2016, 22:03
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Funny thing is one of her old mates did get into trouble for just that thing and had to write a grovelling apology and promise he'd do some retraining. (Cannot for life of me remember his name though, but he was well known in newspaper circles).

Peed a lot of people off hmmmm, sounds like someone else we know HI LIZ

Think this is of whom you might be thinking of , Ade. http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...he-independent

As for Jones’s latest more dire than usual ‘Dreary’ – well, all I can say is: grow up, woman. Be NICE to people, don’t slag them off to settle old grudges, or even slag them off for no reason at all.

And by the way, I think Jones is a freelancer (as was I, all my working life as a journo) so SHE is responsible to sorting out tax stuff, with the help of an accountant if she finds tax stuff a bit bewildering (and no shame in that). But you DON’T keep on a ‘spend spend spend’ spree when you owe back tax and HMRC are snapping at your heels and, presumably, you are stupidly ignoring accountant’s advice.

Meanwhile, I’ve been watching more YouTube vids of ‘Prince’ and yes, what an amazing performer – and from the other obits, a really nice man who encouraged and supported struggling artistes.

I impressed the London grandkids last night, with my suddenly acquired knowledge of ‘Prince’ and they played me some of his music on their i-whatsits.
And then I related my own ‘musical’ experiences, in my misspent middle age on foreign press trips, when, after the vodka drinking competition, we all had to do a ‘party piece’. Mine was dancing the ‘Can-Can’ on a table top. It’s unfortunate that I could never even manage a decent waltz or quickstep, but never mind … after coming first, or second … or even nowhere in the preceding vodka drinking competition, I GAVE IT MY ALL! Just sent the grandkids a vid of a proper Can-Can, and jokingly asked them to identify me amongst the dancers ….! They’ll be well impressed, though their mum (my daughter) will be frowning a bit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjwFm6h2fiM

Sorry for the trip down good old Memory Lane - I’m on crutches at the moment – second hip gone, probably due to ‘Can-Can’ efforts, also youthful ice skating (useless at that too), according to lovely orthopaedic consultant. But – I don’t regret a single moment. And just wondering if Jones on her freebies/press trips, has had half … sorry, even a fraction as much fun as I’ve had! I sort of think she might have been Sherlock’s ‘Spectre at the Feast’. So everyone on the Press trip stuck to Perrier and went to bed early, thoroughly depressed.
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Old 24-04-2016, 23:02
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In that case she's telling porkies. Her book(s) are only repeated stuff from the people she interviewed who knew him. She never actually met him face to face at all.
Goodness me. So she never went to his home or had any kind of face to face with him, is that right ?
If that's actually the case then this time she's got away with a massive lie. Wow
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Old 24-04-2016, 23:06
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Think this is of whom you might be thinking of , Ade. http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...he-independent

As for Jones’s latest more dire than usual ‘Dreary’ – well, all I can say is: grow up, woman. Be NICE to people, don’t slag them off to settle old grudges, or even slag them off for no reason at all.

And by the way, I think Jones is a freelancer (as was I, all my working life as a journo) so SHE is responsible to sorting out tax stuff, with the help of an accountant if she finds tax stuff a bit bewildering (and no shame in that). But you DON’T keep on a ‘spend spend spend’ spree when you owe back tax and HMRC are snapping at your heels and, presumably, you are stupidly ignoring accountant’s advice.

Meanwhile, I’ve been watching more YouTube vids of ‘Prince’ and yes, what an amazing performer – and from the other obits, a really nice man who encouraged and supported struggling artistes.

I impressed the London grandkids last night, with my suddenly acquired knowledge of ‘Prince’ and they played me some of his music on their i-whatsits.
And then I related my own ‘musical’ experiences, in my misspent middle age on foreign press trips, when, after the vodka drinking competition, we all had to do a ‘party piece’. Mine was dancing the ‘Can-Can’ on a table top. It’s unfortunate that I could never even manage a decent waltz or quickstep, but never mind … after coming first, or second … or even nowhere in the preceding vodka drinking competition, I GAVE IT MY ALL! Just sent the grandkids a vid of a proper Can-Can, and jokingly asked them to identify me amongst the dancers ….! They’ll be well impressed, though their mum (my daughter) will be frowning a bit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjwFm6h2fiM

Sorry for the trip down good old Memory Lane - I’m on crutches at the moment – second hip gone, probably due to ‘Can-Can’ efforts, also youthful ice skating (useless at that too), according to lovely orthopaedic consultant. But – I don’t regret a single moment. And just wondering if Jones on her freebies/press trips, has had half … sorry, even a fraction as much fun as I’ve had! I sort of think she might have been Sherlock’s ‘Spectre at the Feast’. So everyone on the Press trip stuck to Perrier and went to bed early, thoroughly depressed.
Yup, that's the guy. Well done
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Old 24-04-2016, 23:21
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Think this is of whom you might be thinking of , Ade. http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...he-independent

As for Jones’s latest more dire than usual ‘Dreary’ – well, all I can say is: grow up, woman. Be NICE to people, don’t slag them off to settle old grudges, or even slag them off for no reason at all.
It's all very well telling her to be NICE, but she doesn't actually know how to be. Her definition of nice is giving people wildly expensive, inappropriate presents and complaining with monotonous regularity ever after about the ingratitude of the recipients. After all, what is not to love about a cashmere outfit for a baby? The recent (in the last couple of weeks, I think) statement that she is going to stop being nice and be a bitch instead was laughable considering her treatment of all her friends (what few there are left) and family in print over a period of years.

As for enjoyment, if she ever knew how to enjoy herself she has forgotten long since. She positively rejoices in being miserable. The comments on her latest dreary are almost overwhelmingly negative - how can they be otherwise when all she can do nowadays is whine like a spoiled brat who doesn't get her way?
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Old 24-04-2016, 23:27
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Wow! her passive-aggressiveness is not her most attractive character trait is it? Just behind her peevishness, self-pity, lack of empathy etc etc. Form an orderly queue guys !!
you're quite right. She's latched onto that : people cheer the under dog principle and stretched it out of shape with the constant poor meeeee carp.
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Old 24-04-2016, 23:40
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I'm not Nige... and I've done my fair share of 'putting the boit in' in the past, but I'm thinking that if there's any truth in Liz's diary, now may be a time to back off.

I hope that she gets some help.
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Old 25-04-2016, 00:25
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Regarding the Prince Article and Liz finding out that his passport listed him as 4' 10" and had a box checked for "possible dwarfism" but she didn't bring the subject up with him since she didn't want ot hurt him.

Prince is (was) American. American passports do not list height, nor do they have a box to check for anything, including dwarfism.
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Old 25-04-2016, 01:00
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I'm not Nige... and I've done my fair share of 'putting the boit in' in the past, but I'm thinking that if there's any truth in Liz's diary, now may be a time to back off.

I hope that she gets some help.
Mr Curmudgeon, sorry that you're not 'Nige' - I thought 'Nige' might be just the man to sort out poor old Jones.

I assume it was a case of finger and brain going in different direction when you said 'putting the boit in' ... you surely meant 'boot'. Or did you? Just looked up 'boit' -
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Boit I quote: (pronounced Boo-IT)
A word used to convey sympathy (whilst making light of the situation) when an extremely unfortunate event happens to a friend or relative.

Actually, seemed a bit, well, apt;
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Old 25-04-2016, 01:26
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Regarding the Prince Article and Liz finding out that his passport listed him as 4' 10" and had a box checked for "possible dwarfism" but she didn't bring the subject up with him since she didn't want ot hurt him.

Prince is (was) American. American passports do not list height, nor do they have a box to check for anything, including dwarfism.
Oh goodness..,.

And I agree with 'not' Nige, it may have gone far enough.
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Old 25-04-2016, 07:48
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I'm not Nige... and I've done my fair share of 'putting the boit in' in the past, but I'm thinking that if there's any truth in Liz's diary, now may be a time to back off.

I hope that she gets some help.
It's becoming similar to a Victorian freak show. Or a cesspit of misery. I don't understand why her Editor doesn't gently suggest/actively orchestrate that the Diary has run its course and that LJ should concentrate of unraveling the knotted knitting she's created both personally in alienating friends and family, and also with her finances. Taking advice about the latter, and heeding that advice, however unpalatable.

Regarding the Prince Article and Liz finding out that his passport listed him as 4' 10" and had a box checked for "possible dwarfism" but she didn't bring the subject up with him since she didn't want ot hurt him.

Prince is (was) American. American passports do not list height, nor do they have a box to check for anything, including dwarfism.
It's well-documented that Prince's height was 5' 2". Quite apart from the fact that US passports don't include an individual's height or a check box for anything, what corner of anyone's imagination would write about looking at an old passport of the subject of an interview and then fabricating information which clearly isn't on the passport? Also, how does one look at an old passport?
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Old 25-04-2016, 07:57
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Mr Curmudgeon, sorry that you're not 'Nige' - I thought 'Nige' might be just the man to sort out poor old Jones.

I assume it was a case of finger and brain going in different direction when you said 'putting the boit in' ... you surely meant 'boot'. Or did you? Just looked up 'boit' -
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Boit I quote: (pronounced Boo-IT)
A word used to convey sympathy (whilst making light of the situation) when an extremely unfortunate event happens to a friend or relative.

Actually, seemed a bit, well, apt;
I think it must have been a throw back to Bob Monkhouse and 'The Golden Shot'... "Bernie... the bolt". I wonder if Bernie is still around and can be hired as a mercenary to put us all out of our misery.
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Old 25-04-2016, 07:58
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Being short does not equal having dwarfism either. And I'm sure Prince would just leave his passport lying around for anyone to have a shufty at...
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