I'm not a fan but each to their own including making money as a model. I still say whether it is WAGFree, Myla , Mercedes Benz or Fructis, they do not need need her screwing up their image and potentially damaging the brand.

The thing is we don't know if the statement about hating the way she looked at young age is actually true or really HER truth. Have noticed before she is a like a magpie, taking odd bits and bobs back to her nest that she likes the sound of. If you think about the Prince book and her old mate passing work off as his own, thats what am getting at here. Someone mentioned on the thread along time ago about an actress who's life story was serialised in the Mail, she'd been hospitalised with anorexia poor woman, as a child, not so long later Lizbot seemed be adding new bits on to her own sad memories which sounded cherry picked from the actresses book. It was mentioned here, then another poster said they'd picked up on it too.

I was reading 'Call Me Dave' (got to understand your enemy ! ) other day and Lizbot had lifted a line from there only slightly altering it. There was another example where she wrote about her fame spreading like 'Flora Margerine' when a female author had recently used a similar phrase with butter. The point is you never know what is and isn't true with her. But what you can hang your coat on is the simple fact she will say things to garner sympathy.

Wow Porkies everywhere !

So, the 24.83, is that the percentage of her debt that has to pay and the rest gets forgotten about.
Or
Is 24.83 what she has to pay back from every pound she now earns until the last penny of debt is repaid

?????

Does anyone know cos am clueless about debt. Cheers

I think it means that, if, say, she owes a creditor £100 for example, she has to pay back the poor devil 100 x 24.83 pence, which means £24.83. If it's an IVA it lasts five years and there'll be a payment plan as to how she pays it - either monthly from her earnings, or in lump sum when she sells her house. So in essence, her creditors will get back (hopefully) a little less than a quarter of what she actually owes. THIS, so far as I know, is how an IVA works. An 'insolvency practitioner' will be involved and keep a very beady eye on all her finances.

If she's bankrupt, then I don't really know how that works - my knowledge of IVAs comes from a close friend who was subject to one. In an IVA, 75 per cent of the creditors have to agree to the arrangement, and the remaining 25 per cent who don't agree - well, tough, they have to go along with it. BUT, knowing HMRC, I'm not sure how they fit in with this - in my experience, they want back ever single £ of back, unpaid tax.

I imagine that other DSs here will be far more knowledgeable. So far as I remember, way back on this thread someone posted a link to details of Jones and her insolvency hearing or something, from official records, and it did look like an IVA, but I may be incorrect.

I suppose my problem with her is that I think she must be barking mad to get herself in a situation like this and then not only broadcast it in the press but lie about it too!

Here's an interesting read -
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/c...-my-debts.html

And some more!
https://www.bing.com/search?q=liz%20...9qCF7O4sDit2OP
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If you are declared bankrupt you are required to do a statement of your income/expenditure for the official receiver. You can 'keep' money that will go towards paying for essentials like rent, utilities, travel to work, etc. Any surplus you have will then go towards paying your creditors for a fixed amount of time but is set on a sliding scale. So if you earn £1000 a month and spend £800 on essentials the OR might rule that you then have to pay 50% of your surplus for a period of 3 yrs. Of course if you take home £10k a month and your essential outgoings are £1k the OR would take 90% of the surplus.

This is why rich people still seem to have flashy lives after bankruptcy - even when the OR has taken their cut they still have a couple of thousand left each month!

If you have assets like a car it would depend on your need for them and the worth. If you have an old banger that you need to get to work then you would probably be allowed to keep it, but if you have a flashy top of the range car and work from home then its likely to be taken.

Ha: found it, originally posted by Fatsia few months back:

https://www.insolvencydirect.bis.gov...127&CaseType=I

Sorry, Fatsia, lost the actual date of your post. But look like it IS an IVA.
Quick edit:: did proper search and you posted on 3rd March this year. Page 174 of this thread.

Blimey - this looks a good plan. If she's been in debt for 20 odd years and has done an IVA before, then she can merrily go on spending like mad and only paying back a pittance every few years!

Most likely she got he lines from the bits of bold text in reviews or serialisations in the papers, or at best from the back cover of the book
For a writer she doesn't seem to have many literary influences, I can remember her referencing The Time Traveller's Wife when it was a thing, and her harping on about the film of Pride and Prejudice.

Yeah, I get the feeling she isn't terribly well read (unless you count fcking Vogue, which I don't). But no doubt that was her parents' fault, as was everything else. For the record, we had hardly any books at home - just a few second hand Just William and Famous Five books. That doesn't stop you reading as widely as you wish if you have libraries nearby.

If she read Vogue as diligently as she claims it didn't do her much good. For someone who claims to be a 'fashion historian' (that is actually a real thing Lizard, they work in the V&A etc.) among other things, she never employs even the most basic terminology.
'Sticky outy skirts and jackets' would be sweet from a small child, but hardly what you expect from a fashion editor.

The thing here is, we don't know why she was sacked and (hang on, let me find a wall here to bang my head on !!! Clearly joking )we may never find out. Just because Lizbott tells us this does in no way guarantee that it happened that way. She will go ahead and say things with the 'poor me' spin when she wants sympathy. And that could be 100 miles away from the truth of the matter, she doesn't care ! So we may never know why she lost that position. The only chance we have of finding out going by her past slip ups is if the truth happens to leak out while she's banging on about something else that's got under her skin and momentarily forgets what she's previously said on the subject. Cos this is how the truth has escaped before.

According to another Mail name she's seen as a star I've been told.

Cheers - good deal (spend spend spend, hand over 1/4 and keep the rest ! ) if you can get it. I don't see HMRC letting folk off in the same way, they want what they're owed, we all have to pay tax don't we.

The usual why me crap today. It seems David has dumped her (or...if not exactly dumped her, just sidled off into the sunset). And she wonders why. Whyyyy. Whyyyyyyy? Whilst it's obvious to 99% of her readers, it still isn't obvious to her.

She tries to work it out in her own slightly twisted way. Apparently:

Dating David was like success: you get it, and then discover people hate you for it, they rip you off, they want what you have, they hate you, they print lies about you.

So there you go. Everyone was well jel. It's our fault.

Bella,everything is somebdy else's fault.Never LJ's.
Has she moved house ?
I think the charring of meat outdoors should be banned, especially if you live in a terrace – I’m in danger of catching second-hand colon cancer).

FFS Liz:

YOU choose to eat only one meal a day. You have/have had an eating disorder, and I'm sympathetic to that. But the fact remains it is your choice to eat only one meal a day. If you wanted to eat three, you could. No one's stopping you.

Employees are legally entitled to lunch breaks. You, on the other hand, are self-employed and set your own hours. If you wanted a lunch break, you could have one. No one's stopping you doing that either. By the way, it's normal to need food and take breaks. It's part of being human, shall we say. You're not virtuously better than people who eat more or who have a break now and then.

I hardly think opening emails counts as a "difficult task." Acting on them might ...

I do feel sorry for the old bag. But she also reminds me of someone I used to work with who acted exactly this way - treated people like shit then got all WAAAAH when there were eventually repercussions.

Lizbott on Duchess of Cambridge, got to admit am agreeing with her today, she's quite right.
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Seems like the priorities are upside down with this new Royal, doing Vogue cover but not willing to present shamrock to the Irish Guards. Big fail

LJ says some ridiculous things but that little aside is beyond ridicule. For those who know about cancer of the colon first hand, it's not even vaguely amusing.

I think that is supposed to be her legendary witty humour.

Yes,I just ignored the colon cancer remark.My mum is having treatment for it at the moment.

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssssss

Looks like Dave's finally finished with her.

Fingers crossed.

Yes, well done David, if you are reading. Hopefully now you can find a nice lady who is quite content with you, just as you are.

Result! Under the farticle about Bank Holidays, I managed to get a comment PUBLISHED, about the Private Eye article (originally revealed here by Fatsia, well done) that Jones's creditors were told her Diary was, basically, a work of fiction. I quoted in full:

"...But the creditors in her much-chronicled bankruptcy have been given a slightly different vision. Late last year they accepted her proposal to pay off her debts, as documented exhaustively if inconsistently in her column, at the rate of 24.82 pence in the pound. They were also offered this startling confession: "I would like to make my creditors aware that my column and any other article I write is ficticious. It is my job to write about an extravagant lifestyle. My professional persona and my real persona are significantly different, particularly financially.""

Obviously Jones isn't moderating herself today!