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Liz Jones - YOU magazine (Part 4)
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seventhwave
27-11-2016
"Dumped at Battersea." I don't know, I thought giving a cat to a reputable shelter that can find them a new home was the responsible thing to do when you can't take your cat abroad with you and none of your friends/family/neighbours can take them in?

I sympathise with Liz hating marijuana but I agree: if it's a deal breaker, tell the Baker so. Don't just whinge about it ...
IFonly58
27-11-2016
Funny that, in the space of a couple of years, love's young dream and her fantasy of a "love that was meant to be" from 1983 has descended into such a mess of seething hatred, passive- aggressive rage, contempt, name-calling and frankly shameful personal insults. This is not journalism by any standards and should stop now, but it seems that her desperation for money forces her to carry on with it.
Jennifer_Jones2
27-11-2016
Hi IFonly58 - I'm still not fully convinced they aren't both in this for the money quite frankly. I mean what normal male would lie down passively under all the insults she hurls? He'd clear off and find someone nearer normal!

If it's all a con, abetted by the MOS, that explains why her editors aren't the slightest bit bothered by what's going on. It brings in readers for them!
LakieLady
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by amikolaichek:
“How about looking at somewhere in Kent or Sussex? Not that far to get into London, or to airports? Mind you, I've no idea of prices in those areas. But parts very rural still and I'm sure she'd find pasture for her horses.”

According to something I read recently, West Sussex is the most expensive for housing outside the home counties. East Sussex is expensive on its western side, but gets cheaper as you go further east. Anywhere nice is still expensive though!

Anyway, we don't want her either. We have enough up-themselves DFLs* as it is!


* Down From London
Zarla
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by LakieLady:
“According to something I read recently, West Sussex is the most expensive for housing outside the home counties. East Sussex is expensive on its western side, but gets cheaper as you go further east. Anywhere nice is still expensive though!

Anyway, we don't want her either. We have enough up-themselves DFLs* as it is!


* Down From London”

The home counties are out but somewhere like south Lincolnshire, fairly close to the fast rail link to Kings Cross, would be affordable. She could drive, park and then be at KC in 70 minutes.
cathrin
27-11-2016
This latest Diary really does reach new depths of vitriolic nastiness. The comments about his financial situation (and the reference to his elderly mother) must fill him and his family with absolute horror. Even if D has agreed to be subjected to this level of humiliation, I'm willing to bet his family haven't signed up to be part of it.

On a more trivial note, I'm constantly intrigued by the male figure who appears in the illustrations week after week. Jet back ponytail, blue long-sleeved top....it's EXACTLY the way her ex-husband was always drawn way back. Does DS have the same jet black ponytail and happen to wear the same top? Or is the illustrator reflecting the fact that Liz has started treating D the same way she treated her ex-husband in the column, piling on the insults and humiliation while presenting him as a hopeless and feckless figure? Either way, it's kind of creepy. I've noticed she uses the same types of put-downs that she used to direct at the ex ("wet nappy face" etc.).

Maybe she should take a long hard look at herself and recognise that she's the common denominator in all these disastrous relationships. But of course, she won't; she'll simply keep adding more names to the list of BAD people who have EXPLOITED her for being TOO NICE!

The random, flailing insults and passive-aggressive snipes would be unacceptable in a teenager. Coming from a woman in her late 50s, it's absolutely abominable. Do the Mail editors not read the column before they publish it? Surely someone somewhere must think "Hang on, this is just one long round of emotional bullying and score-settling....should we really be publishing it?"
Lizzyroz
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by cathrin:
“ Do the Mail editors not read the column before they publish it? Surely someone somewhere must think "Hang on, this is just one long round of emotional bullying and score-settling....should we really be publishing it?"”

When the Mail relegates the sentencing of Thomas Mair, the murderer of Jo Cox MP to page 30, the silly ramblings of Liz Jones will come a long way behind that.

Their editors don't have scruples, they think they're for wimps.
hoppity_mimble
27-11-2016
According to one of the comments in the DM Jones's new company is called "Liz Jones Goddess Ltd"

Say no more
amikolaichek
27-11-2016
Good grief, she's REALLY gone to town on The Baker this week ... his drug habit, his 'rotten teeth', his cooking, the state of his home, his 'dumping' a previous cat, his daring to buy himself a new car ... what the hell is to do with Jones if it was purchased because of a cashed-in ISA OR money from his 'ninety something' mother? (Isn't the lady recently deceased? Maybe the Dreary hasn't caught up with that yet?) Anyway, whatever - it's The Baker's money, to do with what he wishes. If he'd handed over every penny of his ISA/inheritance/whatever to Jones, I'm sure she'd still whine and whinge about him. Oh ... a sudden thought - maybe his BIG MISTAKE was to have not used it to take Jones to Cartier, to choose a lovely expensive engagement ring, to replace the £26 quid 'token' bauble she bangs on and on about.

And - on the subject of money - what's with the stuff that 'And how dare you ask if I am now paying my tax (which I am, actually, now that I’m a limited company and PAYE)'


I'm no financial expert, but does this infer that (a) she hasn't been paying her due tax before and (b) that she's now a 'limited company' and perhaps paying herself a salary, in which case - does PAYE apply, as it does to employees? No idea. But (c) I'm not sure about this, I admit - she is, I'm pretty sure, a freelancer and therefore self-employed (as I was all my working life). I didn't pay tax via PAYE but put in yearly accounts and paid due tax. I suspect that Jones's grasp of financial affairs is about as good as mine on astrophysical fluid dynamics.

But what do I know? Maybe more financially literate DSs can work it out.

As some DSs have posited today, just maybe The Baker is complicit in all the spiteful slagging him off - sharing all the rich proceeds flowing from the MoS coffers. And, don't forget, it's on record that Jones told her creditors that what she writes is 'fiction'. BUT - on the other hand, The Baker, David Scrace, is NOT a piece of fiction, such as we all suspect was the 'Rock Star' lover. He's a real person. With an ex wife, ex girlfriends, children (recall how many nasty things Jones has written about his exes), friends and a business (or has he retired now?). Surely he can't be colluding in this frankly horrible trashing of everything about him and those who should be his nearest and dearest? But if he is ... then talk about selling one's soul to the devil. Ask Dr. Faust.

I thought today's Dreary reached new lows of nastiness, even for Jones. She didn't 'send' that ghastly email but she's made sure as hell that The Baker has seen it now.
viva.espana
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by Jennifer_Jones2:
“Hi IFonly58 - I'm still not fully convinced they aren't both in this for the money quite frankly. I mean what normal male would lie down passively under all the insults she hurls? He'd clear off and find someone nearer normal!

If it's all a con, abetted by the MOS, that explains why her editors aren't the slightest bit bothered by what's going on. It brings in readers for them!”

And this thread helps the farce continue. Any attention is still better than no attention.

Really, she's so long and clearly past the point of interesting discussion and I'm genuinely bewildered by those on here who so clearly know this but yet continue to follow and comment upon her every fake move.
alaninmcr
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by amikolaichek:
“ I'm no financial expert, but does this infer that (a) she hasn't been paying her due tax before ”

Yes! She hadn't paid tax and HMRC finally asked for the money. They're one of her big creditors.
alaninmcr
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by hoppity_mimble:
“According to one of the comments in the DM Jones's new company is called "Liz Jones Goddess Ltd"

Say no more”

It's true! It's there on the company house website. Nicola Bebb (Nik?) is the secretary and Adam Kelly is the director.
fizzycat
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by amikolaichek:
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And, don't forget, it's on record that Jones told her creditors that what she writes is 'fiction'. BUT - on the other hand, The Baker, David Scrace, is NOT a piece of fiction, such as we all suspect was the 'Rock Star' lover. He's a real person. With an ex wife, ex girlfriends, children (recall how many nasty things Jones has written about his exes), friends and a business (or has he retired now?).
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The 'fiction' claim confuses me too. Are we to believe that the spending on bags and waxing and other assorted designer non-essentials is fiction? Or the 'relationship'? Because we know the financial plight is true - the details of the house auction and the guide price that's less than half what she paid for it are there for anyone to see. So is the claim of 'fiction' just another of her lies and an attempt to throw her creditors off the scent?

If the designer label spending and the expensive attempts at buying affection are fiction, how did she get into this state of the oft-declared 'worked hard all my life and now have nothing'? Her money must have gone somewhere.
MrsManiac
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by alaninmcr:
“It's true! It's there on the company house website. Nicola Bebb (Nik?) is the secretary and Adam Kelly is the director.”

Interestingly the address registered for Nicola Bebb is Lawn House but I thought she moved ages ago and why would you register a postal address that has been repossessed by the bank?
alaninmcr
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by alaninmcr:
“It's true! It's there on the company house website. Nicola Bebb (Nik?) is the secretary and Adam Kelly is the director.”

Adam Kelly seems to be her much maligned accountant. The company has one share (valued at £1) and owned by "Elizabeth Jones". It's weird though, as she gives her address as Upcott Farm, Brushford, Dulverton, Somerset. As the company was set up 1st December 2015, that address cannot be right
Lizzyroz
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by alaninmcr:
“Adam Kelly seems to be her much maligned accountant. The company has one share (valued at £1) and owned by "Elizabeth Jones". It's weird though, as she gives her address as Upcott Farm, Brushford, Dulverton, Somerset. As the company was set up 1st December 2015, that address cannot be right ”

AFAIK her sister still lives at Upcott in the barn conversion, though why she'd want to involve her is anyone's guess as they don't seem exactly pally.
David Wright
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by Suzy_Cat:
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Shall we run a sweepstake on how long it will take for the Gruesome Twosome to make up? I reckon Christmas. One or other will send a text announcing that they miss them and it will all be on, and disappointing, again.”

When she first wrote abot PRUDENCEGATE in the paper a few weeks ago she said she called the Police after D "catnapped" Pru, so I'm thinking that this time it might really be over.

I mean would you stay with someone who sent the Polce to you after alleging you'd kidnapped your own cat?: D
Suzy_Cat
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by David Wright:
“When she first wrote abot PRUDENCEGATE in the paper a few weeks ago she said she called the Police after D "catnapped" Pru, so I'm thinking that this time it might really be over.

I mean would you stay with someone who sent the Polce to you after alleging you'd kidnapped your own cat?: D”

You might if you got off on the idea of a Tempestuous Romance between two Wacky Souls who make great *cough* copy.

There will be "I love you and only you. You are strong and beautiful" texts ere the year is out I reckon. IF the relationship is indeed as painted - it's probably exaggerated for effect, surely - they're both massively codependent, especially him, and it'll be on again off again till one of them dies, probably. Or a third party gets involved.

In light of the way the Baker is described, I wouldn't mind betting it was the women who ended his previous relationships.
Suzy_Cat
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by alaninmcr:
“Adam Kelly seems to be her much maligned accountant. The company has one share (valued at £1) and owned by "Elizabeth Jones". It's weird though, as she gives her address as Upcott Farm, Brushford, Dulverton, Somerset. As the company was set up 1st December 2015, that address cannot be right ”

Interesting that she is not a director of her own company - is that a thing in English law, or is that due to her bankruptish status? Most people I know who have trading companies are directors, often sole directors. So in theory that makes Adam and Nic responsible for the company's cashflow, etc, though as sole shareholder Liz can theoretically tell them what to do.

But given her inability to manage her own money in the past it's probably a good idea.

The company name will be a) related to the film script or b) a positive thinking mantra.
Lizzyroz
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by Suzy_Cat:
“Interesting that she is not a director of her own company - is that a thing in English law, or is that due to her bankruptish status? Most people I know who have trading companies are directors, often sole directors. So in theory that makes Adam and Nic responsible for the company's cashflow, etc, though as sole shareholder Liz can theoretically tell them what to do.

But given her inability to manage her own money in the past it's probably a good idea.

The company name will be a) related to the film script or b) a positive thinking mantra.”

Undischarged bankrupts can't be company directors.
Why's Nic involved when she doesn't seem to have been in touch with Liz for weeks?
Jennifer_Jones2
27-11-2016
If she's now officially a bankrupt instead of being under an IVA, she can't be a director of any company for so many years. There are other rules too but I don't know about when under an IVA. The Administrator or someone was paying her so much a month out of her salary, so what happens now, I have no idea. The Companies House address thing sounds very odd. her sister lives/ed in a cottage near her but Nic had got herself dibs on the conversion part, which must have been sold with the Farm. That's what caused her sister to take her to court. Wonder where she is now?
Rubbish Name
28-11-2016
Originally Posted by Lizzyroz:
“Undischarged bankrupts can't be company directors.
Why's Nic involved when she doesn't seem to have been in touch with Liz for weeks?”

The Limited Company was incorporated in December 2015, so before the grand falling-out between Nic and Liz, and at a time when Nic was still living at Lawn House. I don't think Liz is technically bankrupt (yet) so there's nothing stopping her being a company director
Zarla
28-11-2016
Is this a false memory or does anyone else recall Liz first introducing Nic into the Diary as a chavvy Essex girl, complete with phonetically rendered accent?
fizzycat
28-11-2016
Originally Posted by Zarla:
“Is this a false memory or does anyone else recall Liz first introducing Nic into the Diary as a chavvy Essex girl, complete with phonetically rendered accent?”

I can't remember that far back but I've just done some Google-digging and can't find it. Which is a shame because I wondered if her phonetically rendered accent was as ludicrously poor as the one she claims North Yorkshire men speak with.

'Nout' for 'not'. Actually, it's 'nowt' for 'nothing' and for 'not' us Tykes tend to say erm ... 'not'. And as for the very odd "a'ight" I haven't the faintest idea what the old bat is on about.

'Appen as we do 'ave some odd sayins up 'ere in t'North but 'a'ight' in't one on 'em.
cathrin
28-11-2016
Originally Posted by fizzycat:
“I can't remember that far back but I've just done some Google-digging and can't find it. Which is a shame because I wondered if her phonetically rendered accent was as ludicrously poor as the one she claims North Yorkshire men speak with.

'Nout' for 'not'. Actually, it's 'nowt' for 'nothing' and for 'not' us Tykes tend to say erm ... 'not'. And as for the very odd "a'ight" I haven't the faintest idea what the old bat is on about.

'Appen as we do 'ave some odd sayins up 'ere in t'North but 'a'ight' in't one on 'em.”

Perhaps she meant 'Ay?'
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