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Old 10-05-2013, 06:27
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"10.13 The meetings held at Savile’s home on Friday mornings had
been portrayed by some, as Savile using his friendship with police
officers to provide him with protection from allegations of sexual abuse.
WYP recognised the seriousness of this suggestion and placed great
emphasis on establishing the truth of what actually took place.
10.14 No evidence has been found to conclude that there was any
impropriety or misconduct in relation to the FMC
10.15 All of those people spoken to who had knowledge of the Friday
Morning Club described it as of a ‘coffee morning’. Non police
attendees commented on how professionally the police officers who
had attended Savile’s home conducted themselves."
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Old 10-05-2013, 06:31
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BBC journos have had a quick read
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-22476937
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BBC News: 68 victims from W. Yorkshire have come forward.
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Grahame Wettone (police correspondent) says looks bad that when Surrey police , when investigating the Duncroft School, asked Yorks Police what they knew about Savile, yet the W . Yorks force continued to use him on crime reduction, road safety campaigns etc.

All seems a bit whitewashy to me.
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Old 10-05-2013, 06:52
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No doubt the homophobic anti-semitic shape shifting lizards will be emerging from under their rock to declare the report a whitewash.

(Must learn to type faster)
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Old 10-05-2013, 09:33
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Grahame Wettone (police correspondent) says looks bad that when Surrey police , when investigating the Duncroft School, asked Yorks Police what they knew about Savile, yet the W . Yorks force continued to use him on crime reduction, road safety campaigns etc.

All seems a bit whitewashy to me.
Crime reduction campaigns all I've heard of is/was the Clunk Click campaign?.

They were talking to someone from W Yorks Police on BBC Breakfast who said they were working with the NSPCC and NAPAC to try and find safeguarding tactics to help victims speak out more quickly, as far as I understood it. They said they wanted to try and find out why so many people didn't come forward beforehand - hmmm...
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A West Yorkshire Police report says DJ Jimmy Savile "was not protected from arrest" because of his relationship with the force - but a lawyer representing victims says this "doesn't add up".

http://www.channel4.com/news/jimmy-s...rt-child-abuse
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Old 10-05-2013, 10:01
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I am very supportive of our hardworking police forces but never have I read such a poor report #savile #WYP
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BBC report, including interview with W. Yorks Police Federation rep Jon Christopher
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-22476937
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ACC Ingrid Lee refuses to identify Inspector A and Sergeant B in #Savile Report. Let uPSD help her > http://www.upsd.co.uk/inspector-paul-dwyer/
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Old 10-05-2013, 10:46
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Claimants lawyer speaks...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...e-8610277.html

Alan Collins, who represents 40 victims of the disgraced broadcaster today questioned the findings saying: "Savile was able to run rings around the police for decades. He used police officers."

Mr Collins told ITV's Daybreak: ""He was engrained with them, dovetailed with them.

"The report begs a lot more questions. It provides some answers but the report reveals memories that are not as sharp as perhaps they ought to be, 'can't remember', documents that can't seem to be located.
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10:50am Sexual offenders anonymity debate on ITV This Morning. Nick Free, lawyer favours, anonymity; Nicola Mann, Women Against Rape, says no.

Vote on web site http://www.itv.com/thismorning/

Very unscientific poll results:

Should we name those accused of sexual abuse before proven guilty?
24% Yes
76% No
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Video of the Alan Collins interview on Daybreak
http://www.itv.com/daybreak/hottopic...police-report/


He's having a busy day; he also popped up Radio 4's Today programme
http://audioboo.fm/boos/1383224-savi...-around-police
Savile "ran rings" aroung the Police.
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Jim Davidson re-bailed until July
http://www.itv.com/news/update/2013-...ed-until-july/
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...st_10_05_2013/
1hr 5min in
Radio 5Live Breakfast, talk with Danny Shaw, BBC Home Correspondent, then Dan Davis, who is writing a book about Savile. He calls the report "A bit of a whitewash, a bit of a fudge."
Mentions an ormamental lighter found when auctioning his stuff, "From all your friends at the Vice Squad."
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Later in 5Live Breakfast
"Ingrid Lee, Temporary Assistant Chief Constable with West Yorkshire Police, is challenged by Nicky Campbell about a reported present of an ornamental lighter given to Jimmy Savile by the West Yorkshire Police decades ago; and Savile's 'coffee meetings' where police officers met Savile on Fridays at his house. "

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p018vpn3
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Old 10-05-2013, 12:07
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I've read some daft comments before, but this one really goes to a whole new level.

Good grief.
I don't understand why you think that was a daft comment. If a "victim" did not feel it worthy of reporting at the time why should they suddenly feel the need to now after so many years?

Having dealt with true victims of dreadful child abuse I just feel that some are trivialising the whole situation by reporting what were essentially minor offences at the time. I have great sympathy for victims of serious assault and rape and especially for children but I have no sympathy from any woman who decides after so long that a pinch on the bottom has destroyed her life and they should get compensation,

I found your comment insulting as you obvioulsy haven't read the whole of the post or any of my previous posts.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...st_10_05_2013/
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Radio 5Live Breakfast, talk with Danny Shaw, BBC Home Correspondent, then Dan Davis, who is writing a book about Savile. He calls the report "A bit of a whitewash, a bit of a fudge."
Mentions an ormamental lighter found when auctioning his stuff, "From all your friends at the Vice Squad."
Why are the police allowed to investigate themselves? It's time this practice was stopped. The Hillsborough independent panel showed what can happen.

http://hillsborough.independent.gov.uk/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsborough_disaster
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West Yorkshire Police review of #Savile does identify 76 sexual offences - youngest offences against a 5yr old child


(from p.55-59 in the Report)
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Man held over alleged assault at Royal Northern College of Music

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Seven men have been convicted of exploiting teenage girls - including prostitution and trafficking. Our reporter Phil Mackie spoke to DCI Neil Jamieson of West Mercia Police.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p018vwf5
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Police report into relationship with Jimmy Savile branded a whitewash
A police report into its relationship with Jimmy Savile has been branded a whitewash and condemned by his victims.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...whitewash.html
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The Savile case and PCCs’ lack of transparency blog

http://bernardrix.com/2013/05/10/the...-transparency/
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Old 10-05-2013, 13:40
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I've been following the Savile stuff and indeed this thread from the off.

I still don't understand the posters/ people who say-

1) They don't know why people who were abused years ago didn't speak up at the time and imply that as they didn't, it's a bit late to come forward now.

2) People who have reported so called 'minor offences' shouldn't really bother as the police investigation should only be focused on major incidents such as rape.

My personal views on the above-

1) It's outrageous to suggest that there should be some kind of time limit on this kind of thing. As many posters have pointed out, victims may have a myriad of reasons for why they perhaps haven't come forward until now- fear, shame being just a couple of possibles.

2) If we truly want a warts and all, transparent enquiry into this, I would think that ALL instances should be reported, regardless of whether they are perceived by some as being 'less important'. If we are to have a fully open and honest investigation, ALL instances, minor and major should surely be taken into account, to give a fully represenatative picture of what went on. Let the police and legal system decided what is 'worthy of prosecution' and what isn't.

Just my tuppence worth.
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It sadly really is paedobritain today.

From ITV lunchtime news
http://www.itv.com/news/story/2013-0...-abuse-claims/

There was also a Duncroft survivor saying victims felt let down by the report.
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