[nanscombe]

Originally Posted by Phoenix Lazarus

You know he's innocent for a fact, do you?

We know for a fact that he hasn't been convicted of anything yet, in a British court anyway.

[Daisydoes]

Originally Posted by occy

This is a tragedy and set back for DLT. I was hoping it would be cleared up by now and he's back on Magic. It does seem he's a long way from doing. Magic management have kept the door open for him, but wonder how long for? There is a mention more high profile names could be arrested over the coming weeks/ months again..

So you have absolute proof of his innocence then?

[skp20040]

Originally Posted by Phoenix Lazarus

You know he's innocent for a fact, do you?

We know that he is entitled like any of us to the presumption of innocence.

[Sad_BB_Addict]

The Broadcasting Press Guild gave the only prize to ITV to Exposure: the Other Side of Jimmy Savile which won the best single documentary award. The documentary sparked a series of events that resulted in the departure of Entwistle.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013...g-guild-awards

[Sad_BB_Addict]

Elm Guest House
http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2013/03/...cabinet-today/

[Keyser Soze]

From this week's Popbitch newsletter

Sounds like Yewtree officers
have bagged more celeb paedos.
Congratulations!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21772529

[nanscombe]

What celeb paedos?

It seems to mention alleged celebrity gropers but, apart from Gary Glitter, where is there any mention about child abusers?

Does Popbitch actually know the difference, or is it just an uneducated catchall?


As mentioned at the start of this thread.

Originally Posted by lexi22

... Thread in need of a title upgrade.

Originally Posted by nanscombe

It's also a bit unfair on the other people who just happen to have been arrested, or just questioned, as a result of Operation Yewtree who have no link to paedophila.

[Sad_BB_Addict]

Mark Williams-Thomas ‏ @mwilliamsthomas
Very honoured to receive Broadcasting Press Guild award for #Savile expose. Only possible because of 5 brave women
https://twitter.com/mwilliamsthomas/...349505/photo/1

[Keyser Soze]

There may be a clue in the word congratulations. Or not.

[nanscombe]

Ah, simply another idiotic cryptic clue.

[Keyser Soze]

Originally Posted by nanscombe

Ah, simply another idiotic cryptic clue.

Probably more to do with lawyer avoidance rather than idiocy. The media world is very gossipy, so they've probably heard all sorts.

[Sad_BB_Addict]

http://theneedleblog.wordpress.com/o...-holdings-ltd/
Bryn Alyn N. Wales care homes

[occy]

Originally Posted by Daisydoes

So you have absolute proof of his innocence then?

Nothing has been proved he's done anything. He's not been charged in a court of law. I don't know if he was arrested, or just taken to a police station and spoken to under caution with his solicitor present?

[occy]

It remains to be seen who is the victim in this....

The British legal system leaves much to be desired. We can only hope it won't take someone's suicide for its deficiencies to be addressed.

[Westy2]

Originally Posted by occy

It remains to be seen who is the victim in this....

The British legal system leaves much to be desired. We can only hope it won't take someone's suicide for its deficiencies to be addressed.

Which reminds me, any news on that 80 yr old entertainer from a few months back?

Wasnt he reported in a 'bad way'?

(If its who we think it is, its a sad end to a long career. Certainly one of his fellow countrymen hasnt mentioned him in passing for some time)

[Keyser Soze]

Originally Posted by occy

It remains to be seen who is the victim in this....

The British legal system leaves much to be desired. We can only hope it won't take someone's suicide for its deficiencies to be addressed.

So do you think that suspected crimes shouldn't be investigated, in case the person accused gets distressed?

If someone reports a crime, it needs to be investigated. If someone like DLT (for example) has done nothing wrong, he'll be able to defend himself. He's always come across as having a strong personality.

I said way back on this thread (or one of the earlier ones), that false accusations are horrible and can ruin lives. But what about genuine accusations? If someone has committed a crime, shouldn't they be brought to justice?

[lexi22]

Originally Posted by Keyser Soze

So do you think that suspected crimes shouldn't be investigated, in case the person accused gets distressed?

If someone reports a crime, it needs to be investigated. If someone like DLT (for example) has done nothing wrong, he'll be able to defend himself. He's always come across as having a strong personality.

I said way back on this thread (or one of the earlier ones), that false accusations are horrible and can ruin lives. But what about genuine accusations? If someone has committed a crime, shouldn't they be brought to justice?

In a responsible way, yes, of course they should. Not in this sensation-driven, drip drip drip of innuendo and sly and damaging suggestion that the media seems bent on. No one deserves to be associated with child abuse if that's not the crime they're being investigated for. The way it is, all those arrested/questioned to date seem to be tarred with the Savile brush and it's wrong and beyond irresponsible and the media should be ashamed of itself.

[occy]

Some of these claims go way back when the BBC staff used to cuddle each other and might have had a little flirt. I would think DLT is a perv. Lot of these cases relate to years ago when Radio 1 was a big station, and the stations DJ's used to meet all sorts of people from male to female. With regards to Jimmy Saville that is a total separate matter. It must be distressing for DLT and others.

[i4u]

Originally Posted by Keyser Soze

So do you think that suspected crimes shouldn't be investigated, in case the person accused gets distressed?

If someone reports a crime, it needs to be investigated. If someone like DLT (for example) has done nothing wrong, he'll be able to defend himself. He's always come across as having a strong personality.

I said way back on this thread (or one of the earlier ones), that false accusations are horrible and can ruin lives. But what about genuine accusations? If someone has committed a crime, shouldn't they be brought to justice?

You've read this thread and are fully aware that being arrested must mean 'the police must have good reason', that no charges, charges being dropped or being not guilty means nothing to many contributors.

Acting like trolls some contributors will continue to make claims which are damaging, because that's what trolls do for fun.

One only has to look at various contributions over the past few days by some people with a 'nudge, nudge wink, wink' assertion as if they know who is to be arrested and why.

As for DLT, he was originally arrested under Operation Yewtree as 'others' on 'suspicion of sexual offences' with no more details.

For the media and therefore the public, Jimmy Savile and Operation Yewtree was mainly to do with sexual abuse of children.

If was left to DLT to make public the nature of the arrest and that it bwas unrelated to any child abuse.

If he hadn't said anything the trolls would have had a field day and the anti semetic homophobic websites that are often linked to in this thread would have been creating facts to create dots that have no connection.

On the one hand you say claims of sexual abuse can ruin lifes, then brush that off by saying DLT can defend himself. Even if it all goes away and leads to nothing, because of who he is his Wiki page will no doubt always refer to his arrest under the infamous Operation Yewtree.

Here's Chris Tarraint DJ exposing the breast of Sophie Countess of Wessex, from the look of things he may have done it before to to others.

Would the NSPCC and the police class that as inappropiate and sexual abuse? And under current thinking would the CPS 'build a case' to bring a charge even though Sophie may wish to forget the incident and not be a witness?

[i4u]

Why are some people regularly linking to websites that are full of lies and factually incorrect?

Here's a gem from the latest link connected to Elm Guest House...

(Further, in 1981, Tory MP Geoffrey Dickens gave the Home Secretary Leon Brittan a dossier about Elm House. It disappeared, and Brittan’s alleged attendance at the guest house abruptly ceased.)

Did Dickens ever say he produced a dossier about Elm Guest House, maybe Dickens contacted the author of that blog from beyond the grave.

But it gets worse for this so called investigative blogger, the reason Dickens never gave Leon Brittan a dossier about Elm Guest House in 1981 is because...Leon Brittan was not home secretary. You plonker Rodney.

That blog claims to provide facts but is full of errors.

The author of the blog is not a paedophile, so why am I linking to this picture?

[10000maniacs]

Originally Posted by occy

Nothing has been proved he's done anything. He's not been charged in a court of law. I don't know if he was arrested, or just taken to a police station and spoken to under caution with his solicitor present?

Originally Posted by occy

Nothing has been proved he's done anything. He's not been charged in a court of law. I don't know if he was arrested, or just taken to a police station and spoken to under caution with his solicitor present?

Who's the current Paedo Finder General? Peter Cushing died a few years ago.
Seriously folks, the DLT is innocent until proven guilty. In a court of law.
So was Savile for that matter.

[Sad_BB_Addict]

Leisha Brooks, who reported Savile for assault at the age of 9, but police wouldn't investigate, on Channel 5 news on Weds.
http://www.channel5.com/shows/5-news...s-a-paedophile

[Mutter]

Sorry if this has already been posted about Shy Keenan's son.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...dead-home.html

[Sad_BB_Addict]

Transcript of a police interview with Sir Cyril Smith
http://ukpaedos-exposed.com/mp-sir-c...e-allegations/


Mark Williams-Thomas ‏@mwilliamsthomas
Still lots going on with effects of #Savile expose - all very positive.

Mark Williams-Thomas ‏@mwilliamsthomas
Those interested in Elm Guest House & also abuse by significant individuals - lots being done to finally expose this.

[Mutter]

Originally Posted by Sad_BB_Addict

Transcript of a police interview with Sir Cyril Smith
http://ukpaedos-exposed.com/mp-sir-c...e-allegations/


Mark Williams-Thomas ‏@mwilliamsthomas
Still lots going on with effects of #Savile expose - all very positive.

Mark Williams-Thomas ‏@mwilliamsthomas
Those interested in Elm Guest House & also abuse by significant individuals - lots being done to finally expose this.

Why do you cite SIR Cyril Smith? Should be CUR cyril smith.