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Old 29-03-2013, 21:30
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Interesting priorities displayed by the moderators on this site. I do nothing more than tell someone they are a 'sad person' and I get banned for two weeks for being 'disrespectful' (like this site is moderated by a bunch of nuns from a catholic school...)
Epsom flouts a media ban on naming a crime suspect here and does not get banned...?
The reason why some are not named is because a court case is likely and any published information can influence potential jurors.
Theres mo media ban, the media for there own reasons are not publishing rolfs name.

Digitalspy now like almost everyone else that rolf harris was arrested but theres no injuction in naming him.

I'll just add that rolf harris is innocent until proven otherwise and he was only arrested and released on bail. Until the facts come out we should not be calling him a peado
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Old 29-03-2013, 21:34
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I really would not take twitter as reliable. As far as I can see noone actually knows, someone hinted at something on the Order Order website but I've no reason to know if that's reliable either. It could be something as mild, albeit pervy of a 30-40 year old touching a teenager's bum or boobs in the 60s or 70s or something more serious, we just don't know.
which is why I'm not posting what I read and am waiting till the full facts are made clear
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Old 29-03-2013, 21:40
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which is why I'm not posting what I read and am waiting till the full facts are made clear
It is really getting to the level of hysteria on twitter, he has not even been charged with anything yet!
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Old 29-03-2013, 22:03
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OK, I've read he was questioned while at the Priory, but after leaving there, early this year, he wrote an apology to the person who had made the accusation, which may have been taken as an admission of wrongdoing on his part, so the police had to arrest him this time, rather than simply question him again.

I should state though I have seen no reliable information about the age of this person at the time or the nature of the event that occured.
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Old 29-03-2013, 22:13
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OK, I've read he was questioned while at the Priory, but after leaving there, early this year, he wrote an apology to the person who had made the accusation, which may have been taken as an admission of wrongdoing on his part, so the police had to arrest him this time, rather than simply question him again.

I should state though I have seen no reliable information about the age of this person at the time or the nature of the event that occured.
I gather thats meant to be whats happened, where i said earlier they weren't printing due to his health state.
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Old 29-03-2013, 22:14
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Front page of The Mirror tomorrow:

"The latest celeb arrested by Jimmy Savile police told friends the ordeal has left him an emotional wreck.
Operation Yewtree officers quizzed the 82-year old star for around 10 hours on Thursday over claims of sexual assault.
One worried pal said: "This is destroying him. He is at his wits' end and he cannot understand why he has been arrested."
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Old 29-03-2013, 22:57
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Australian article making clear the arrest has nothing to do with Savile.
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Old 30-03-2013, 00:29
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The local paper reporting Elm Guest House yesterday.
https://twitter.com/AmyDyduch/status...423745/photo/1
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Old 30-03-2013, 00:40
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I read somewhere that he's under the "others" category.
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Old 30-03-2013, 01:00
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Old 30-03-2013, 01:21
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Front page of The Mirror tomorrow:

"The latest celeb arrested by Jimmy Savile police told friends the ordeal has left him an emotional wreck.
Operation Yewtree officers quizzed the 82-year old star for around 10 hours on Thursday over claims of sexual assault.
One worried pal said: "This is destroying him. He is at his wits' end and he cannot understand why he has been arrested."
The person reportedly arrested has really shocked me.

This is one person I find it extremely hard to believe is capable of abusing anyone
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Old 30-03-2013, 01:51
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Wilfrid De'ath interviewed after it was announced that the charges against him were being dropped
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...ay_26_03_2013/
2hrs 10mins in.
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Old 30-03-2013, 01:53
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The person reportedly arrested has really shocked me.

This is one person I find it extremely hard to believe is capable of abusing anyone
And i don't think he will be the last, i expect many other high profile names to be invited to attend their local cop shop, and a certain political party in opposition is currently creaming themselves in regards to the Elm House Guest House allegations being investigated further, hence a reason why DM may have quit so any fallout does not sully his reputation.
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Old 30-03-2013, 03:35
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Please remember that no person who has been abused by anyone can post any details or join your conversation as it is sub-judicea and they could be prosecuted. The Anna Raccoon blog and Moor Larkin blogs are just guessing like most but there is a link between Duncroft and Elm Guest House as it resulted in persons being placed in care and now they have to be re questioned by Op. Fernbridge and although they know and have seen what happened at Elm Guest Hse. They have chosen to deny knowing anything as they are tired of being accused of lying over Jimmy Savile. I think that it is time that these 'victims' were treated with a degree of respect or they will continue to deny the truth and what they know.
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Old 30-03-2013, 08:58
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The person reportedly arrested has really shocked me.

This is one person I find it extremely hard to believe is capable of abusing anyone
It shocked me too. But the truth is none of us actually know these people(well I assume no-one here does), so we don't know what they're capable of. Hell, people can be married to someone and not realise what they're capable of! But I really hope he's done nothing wrong.
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Old 30-03-2013, 09:44
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The person reportedly arrested has really shocked me.

This is one person I find it extremely hard to believe is capable of abusing anyone
Me too. I met him a few years ago and he was just lovely, friendly and warm. I am so hoping he has done nothing wrong.
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Old 30-03-2013, 10:56
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Could someone please PM me the name of the person reportedly arrested?

Thanks.
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Old 30-03-2013, 10:57
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Could someone please PM me the name of the person reportedly arrested?

Thanks.
You mean you can't tell who it is yet?
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Old 30-03-2013, 11:04
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You mean you can't tell who it is yet?
Came late to the discussion (and the thread) and haven't read back so have obviously missed all the obvious clues.

Off to Twitter etc now.
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Old 30-03-2013, 11:15
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I too am shocked at the latest rumours, I had the pleasure of meeting this person in a pub one night when he was in my town for a panto and a more lovely guy you could not meet.

I actually pray this is not true about him. One of my favourite celebs.
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Old 30-03-2013, 11:16
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Out of the many allegations made against Jimmy Saville, just what criteria did the police use to establish who they thought was telling the truth?

I can't imagine there would be any forensic evidence to survive, who knows what 20/30/40 years can do to memories of an event. And we are also getting one version of an event that presumably is unchallenged since the accused is deceased. I'm not trying to defend him or disparage those who came forward with allegations - but it's something I just wondered about.
Obviously it's difficult to tell without actually seeing the statements, but I expect the police found that some corroborated each other directly (e.g. different people were describing the same incident) or that there was enough similarity between different incidents (in relation to his modus operandi etc) that they could corroborate each other. Which isn't unusual when it comes to prosecutions for historical sexual abuse - often the evidence is mainly different victims telling very similar stories about how they were groomed etc.

And of course some victims did report him to the police (or other people) years ago, so they obviously weren't jumping on any post-death bandwagon.
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Old 30-03-2013, 11:52
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Has anyone been seeing the stuff on twitter, surely if Harris is never even found guilty of anything he could basically sue all these people as McAlpine did?
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Old 30-03-2013, 11:55
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Could someone please PM me the name of the person reportedly arrested?

Thanks.
http://order-order.com/2013/03/29/ro...ation-yewtree/

Strange how other people arrested in this police operation are named by the mainstream press but not this one. Guess it depends on who you are!
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Old 30-03-2013, 12:01
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Has anyone been seeing the stuff on twitter, surely if Harris is never even found guilty of anything he could basically sue all these people as McAlpine did?
MacAlpine dropped most of those cases.
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Old 30-03-2013, 12:04
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This is all very uncomfortable reading. Firstly if said person did write a letter of apology then that's not going to do him any favours really in legal terms at least. I seem to remember reading Private Eye had dropped some hints several years ago but don't know what.

The main problem for me is that there seems to be an automatic assumption with all these arrests they are all for Savile type behaviour. Whereas the reality is we have no idea whatsoever what is being alleged. There are a huge range and scope of things that might have happened from one single inappropriate remark right up to the worst things imaginable. Yet its all being reported as if it all part of the same thing. I guess its human nature but it seems most seem to automatically think of the worst.
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