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Old 01-04-2013, 08:02
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Old 01-04-2013, 16:12
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Question.

If somebody sued someone for saying they did something & they didnt & won the case, if it was proved later that they did actually do it, could the person that was sued sue the other person for their own defamnation of character?
Jeffrey Archer was forced to repay the Daily Star the money he won in a libel case when it was later found he had lied he won £500,000 but ended up paying back £500,000 plus about £1 million in legal, recovery costs and interest ( they had been claiming £2.2 million)
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Old 01-04-2013, 16:14
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Jeffrey Archer was forced to repay the Daily Star the money he won in a libel case when it was later found he had lied he won £500,000 but ended up paying back £500,000 plus about £1 million in legal, recovery costs and interest ( they had been claiming £2.2 million)
Ah forgot about him.
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Old 01-04-2013, 17:22
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Question.

If somebody sued someone for saying they did something & they didnt & won the case, if it was proved later that they did actually do it, could the person that was sued sue the other person for their own defamnation of character?
Usually it's publishers who are liable - they don't really have a character to be defamed.
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Old 01-04-2013, 17:26
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Usually it's publishers who are liable - they don't really have a character to be defamed.
The newspaper in question would go to town about it though. Imagine the front pages.
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Old 01-04-2013, 23:32
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850 BBC staff complain of bullying and sexual harassment in wake of Savile scandal
Hundreds of BBC employees contact consultants as part of internal inquiry
Accusations involve harassment, sexual harassment and bullying
One senior BBC executive believed to be subject of more than 20 complaints

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2PFn0PEIR
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Old 02-04-2013, 07:17
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850 BBC staff complain of bullying and sexual harassment in wake of Savile scandal....

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2PFn0PEIR
Did you fail to read the article ?

Here's allegedly what was written to BBC staff...

ĎOver 850 of you got in touch one way or another and gave your thoughts on respect, behaviour and culture at the BBC today.
What evidence have you they were all complaints ?
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Old 02-04-2013, 09:13
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But if under the law the act was with a child between 14 and 16 was it still an offence if it was not consensual ?
In the calm after the storm....
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Apart from the claim Savile asked Ms D to perform oral sex nothing seems to have happenend. If I understand correctly if Ms D had been 14 or younger Savile would have automatically committed a crime by asking.

As for 15 - 16 year olds I'm guessing uttering those words would not automatically be an offence?

Apparently it was not until 1978 it became an offence to take indecent pictures of children under 16, then in 2003 the age of a child was raised to 18.

I wonder if the The Sun and other papers had to destroy photos or delete from computers any images they might have had of 16 & 17 topless models.
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:28
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This is sheer genius..

http://youtu.be/YSA9VKs3nZo
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:45
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850 BBC staff complain of bullying and sexual harassment in wake of Savile scandal
Hundreds of BBC employees contact consultants as part of internal inquiry
Accusations involve harassment, sexual harassment and bullying
One senior BBC executive believed to be subject of more than 20 complaints

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2PFn0PEIR
I'd expect any corporation the size of the BBC to get a similar number of complaints if they went right back to the '60s. Sadly senior staff with "busy hands" were par for the course back in the day.
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Old 02-04-2013, 13:40
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I actually think that is quite sickening, especially incorporating images of celebrities who not been convicted of anything and in most case who haven't even been accused of anything as far as I know.
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Old 02-04-2013, 13:42
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I actually think that is quite sickening, especially incorporating images of celebrities who not been convicted of anything and in most case who haven't even been accused of anything as far as I know.

I think it is satirical in nature in the Chris Morris Paedogeddon mode and not meant to be taken literally - I was as much admiring the craft and delivery as much as the content.
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Old 02-04-2013, 14:04
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I think it is satirical in nature in the Chris Morris Paedogeddon mode and not meant to be taken literally - I was as much admiring the craft and delivery as much as the content.
Oh, technically it's well executed, but I think it goes way beyond satire.
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Old 02-04-2013, 14:19
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I'm not connected with video in anyway and the You Tube site seems to be a very talented musician and video maker with very little hits which makes me think he is either an established star with an underground channel for his more way out stuff or just a talented youngster whose experimenting with internet memes. It may be significant that his list of celebrities starts with Savile , moves up through names that have been mentioned and charged and then flies into absurdity with names that are on no-ones list ending with Roger Moore who is a noted anti-paedophile campaigner - I think it is much a satire on the media and internet hyperbolic obsession with celebrity child abuse as much as a direct accusation of those concerned.
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Old 02-04-2013, 17:34
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Graham Ovenden convicted of child sex offences
Artist found guilty at Truro crown court of six charges of indecency with a child and one count of indecent assault
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/ap...d-sex-offences


It was reported earlier that the Savile publicity was one of the reasons the victims felt able to come forward.
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Old 02-04-2013, 21:08
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DUTCH PAEDOPHILE GROUP Martijn, which argues for societyís acceptance of consensual sex between children and adults, cannot be banned, an appeals court said today, overturning a 2012 ruling.
http://ukpaedos-exposed.com/robert-g...-party-banned/
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Old 02-04-2013, 22:11
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Jimmy Savile used hypnosis on his victims.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABA62XFItZw
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Old 03-04-2013, 00:28
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I recall a passage from his autobiography, as it happens, when he spoke of attempting amateur hypnosis at some show, as a lark, and persuading a young woman he was her husband/boyfriend, and to start undressing.
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Old 03-04-2013, 01:09
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"It was different back then ...... "?
http://theneedleblog.wordpress.com/2...ent-back-then/

"Itís a lie, as this story from 1977 demonstrates, they did care, they just didnít know the full extent of it."
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Old 03-04-2013, 01:25
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A good read by Will Black in HuffPost
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/will...?utm_hp_ref=tw
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Old 03-04-2013, 04:10
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Australia sexual abuse Inquiry starts
http://news.sky.com/story/1073155/au...inquiry-begins
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Old 03-04-2013, 07:13
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" ... over a 17-month period there were 5,651 prosecutions for rape but only 35 for false rape allegations."

The truth about women 'crying rape'
The idea of women 'crying rape' exists everywhere from EM Forster to Hollyoaks. But why? In real life, false allegations of rape are incredibly rare

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandsty...en-crying-rape
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Old 03-04-2013, 07:19
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I know I am going to get attacked for saying this but I am going to anyway. When I was a young girl a male teacher tried it on with me so I kicked him and said if he ever did that again I would report him. He never bothered me again and always gave me good grades after that. Why on earth did these young women go along with what Jimmy asked? My Aunt met him on the Isle of Wight at a pop concert and he asked her and some of her friends to come and have a drink with him. She declined because quite honestly she thought he was weird and strange. He did try to persuade her but she walked away ... she now realises that her instincts about him were right.
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Old 03-04-2013, 13:12
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CPS say they are to charge driver David Smith with 5 sex offences after arrest as part of the Jimmy Savile investigations.

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CPS: Driver David Smith will be charged with five sex offences after he was arrested by detectives investigating the Savile abuse scandal.
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Old 03-04-2013, 13:41
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CPS say they are to charge driver David Smith with 5 sex offences after arrest as part of the Jimmy Savile investigations.

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When he was arrested the Met said it was under the strand of the operation looking at complaints against people not connected to the late DJ.

David Smith is due to appear at Westminster Magistrates' Court on May 8 accused of two counts of indecent assault on a boy under 14, two counts of gross indecency with a boy under 14 and buggery of a boy under 16 in 1984, the Crown Prosecution Service said.
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