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Old 28-04-2013, 21:54
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So far of the 12 people that was interviewed only 3 have been charged.. the others further inquiries are being made !
I personally think its the thin end of the wedge BBC is morally corrupt organisation and more will be arrested. But who is the real "badguy" in all this yes the BBC .
They certainly knew it was going on but because of gagging orders on there staff to reveal what was going on they got away with things .
Offcourse at least one director general resigned over this as it was obvious he knew a lot more than what he told the police and the press .
The BBC , a convenient whipping boy for the rest of the media, are we supposed to beleive the press did not conspire to withold information or that no such assaults involved ITV staff or premises ?
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Old 28-04-2013, 22:23
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Yes it could be a couple I have seen somewhere mention. Some one who complains about everything being suspect of wrongdoings. Hes in his 70s too.
The silhouette that was in the Mirror certainly doesn't fit the grumpy pensioner (unless he's wearing a syrup), so I really don't believe it (to coin a phrase).

It really could be anybody, it's not fair to throw names into the hat willy nilly at this stage, it must be dreadful for the people involved if they're innocent
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Old 28-04-2013, 23:06
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The BBC , a convenient whipping boy for the rest of the media, are we supposed to beleive the press did not conspire to withold information or that no such assaults involved ITV staff or premises ?
I'm pretty sure some of Saville's abuse also occurred during his time in local clubs as well as on the radio, etc...

Whilst many of the other names have appeared on numerous channels
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Old 28-04-2013, 23:07
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The silhouette that was in the Mirror certainly doesn't fit the grumpy pensioner (unless he's wearing a syrup), so I really don't believe it (to coin a phrase).

It really could be anybody, it's not fair to throw names into the hat willy nilly at this stage, it must be dreadful for the people involved if they're innocent
Sadly if you go to some sites and social media it is now less of an unfolding criminal case or multiple cases and turned more into a perverse game of Cluedo, noone sparing a thought for any victims or potentially wrongfully accused persons, or even those that have nothing to do with it but may fit the guessing profile.
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Old 28-04-2013, 23:19
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Jubbly's name has come up before. Someone who housesat for him while he was away filming was a wrong 'un, but Jubbly wasn't there and had nothing to do with it. Unless these are different allegations.

There are a few comedy legends in their 70s. We will find out in due course who this latest one is.
If he was good pals with the two people who used his house, its hard to believe that he didn't know what type of people they were, but possible.
I thought I read somewhere that an alleged incident happened at a club, but there are so many rumours floating about now there is a danger of mix ups or stories merging together.
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Old 29-04-2013, 00:15
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If he was good pals with the two people who used his house, its hard to believe that he didn't know what type of people they were, but possible.
I thought I read somewhere that an alleged incident happened at a club, but there are so many rumours floating about now there is a danger of mix ups or stories merging together.
As I have said before one of the victims of abuse has defended him online, and named the people involved who were arrested and found guilty

I will paste a couple of bits from the comments, I am not going to link that page but its easy enough to find, the person concerned even left his details for a journalist to contact him who wanted more info

I was the instigator who arranged and provided crucial evidence that had tarnow, sear and Cardiff jailed. At no time was David Jason aware of the ongoing activities which happened at his property whilst he was filming Frost in Yorkshire
Thanks for reading this and let's stop making assumptions that just because someone knew the abusers, they them selves are guilty... This just isn't true

Nothing I have said has implicated David Jason (White) rather than accuse I was defending him from ignorant outlandish accusations which have been posted by small minded people who DON'T have a clue what it is like to be a victim of child abuse
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Old 29-04-2013, 00:57
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The Operation Pallial report is due to be released later today

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/nort...-child-2996408
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Old 29-04-2013, 01:16
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As I have said before one of the victims of abuse has defended him online, and named the people involved who were arrested and found guilty
I know you picked me up on the point before. I am not making allegations.
Just that I am getting to the point of not trusting anything I read anymore.
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Old 29-04-2013, 01:18
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I know you picked me up on the point before. I am not making allegations.
Just that I am getting to the point of not trusting anything I read anymore.
I know how you feel thats why I tend to dig around to see what else is said and available , to try and see both sides
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Old 29-04-2013, 02:08
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The Operation Pallial report is due to be released later today

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/nort...-child-2996408
previous Pallial update
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-20756914

The update expected today
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-22306588
Doesn't say what time the police press conference is.
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Old 29-04-2013, 07:50
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More on Pallial
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wa...candal-3184643
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Old 29-04-2013, 09:58
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All along my main worry is that the periodic celebrity arrests were some sort of diversionary sideshow and that things like this got swept under the carpet.
I've thought that since the first few arrests after the Jimmy Saville story leaked. They are desperate to be seen to be doing something but are only going after the easiest of targets.

So far, Operation Yewtree is coming across as one of the most pathetic things I've had the misfortune to witness. I know we don't know what's going on behind-the-scenes, but it just seems so farcical already from what we have witnessed.
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Old 29-04-2013, 10:25
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I've thought that since the first few arrests after the Jimmy Saville story leaked. They are desperate to be seen to be doing something but are only going after the easiest of targets.

So far, Operation Yewtree is coming across as one of the most pathetic things I've had the misfortune to witness. I know we don't know what's going on behind-the-scenes, but it just seems so farcical already from what we have witnessed.
Haven't had anything to add to the thread, recently, but I agree with you. I do believe that they are perhaps focusing upon celebrity 'names' to facilitate the public perception of 'something being done'. The law of averages would, sadly, suggest, that there are people higher up the corporate and political chain with questions to answer.
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Old 29-04-2013, 10:45
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Wow, just heard some absolute moronic nonsense from someone on This Morning. "I wonder if it was muggings, or assaults that happened in the 60's, would the police be pursuing it with the same vigour?"
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Old 29-04-2013, 10:56
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Wow, just heard some absolute moronic nonsense from someone on This Morning. "I wonder if it was muggings, or assaults that happened in the 60's, would the police be pursuing it with the same vigour?"
Sounds like this article from yesterday...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...#ixzz2RogqIcfw
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Old 29-04-2013, 10:59
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Disgraceful. Don't get me wrong, I think they are pursing a lot of these so called celebrities to take the nations eyes off those higher up the chain, like paedophile politicians and the like. No doubt a few of these celebrities pinched a bum here and there and that's it. I understand that, but if people are suspected of sexual offences of a grave nature, of course they should be pursued whether celebrity or not.
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Old 29-04-2013, 12:13
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From the BBC:

Wales child abuse: Operation Pallial inquiry finds evidence of 140 claims

An independent investigation examining claims of historical child abuse at children's homes in north Wales has found "significant evidence of systemic and serious sexual and physical abuse".

Investigators in Operation Pallial have found evidence of 140 allegations of historical abuse between 1963 and 1992.

They also say 76 new complainants have come forward.

The claims centre on 18 homes involving offences against boys and girls aged between seven and 19.


Story here.
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Old 29-04-2013, 12:36
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They carried the press conference live on BBC Radio 5 and will be having an interview with the head of the NSPCC after the 1 o'clock news
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Old 29-04-2013, 13:24
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The silhouette that was in the Mirror certainly doesn't fit the grumpy pensioner (unless he's wearing a syrup), so I really don't believe it (to coin a phrase).

It really could be anybody, it's not fair to throw names into the hat willy nilly at this stage, it must be dreadful for the people involved if they're innocent
I don't believe it either. Wouldn't be surprised if people haven't thrown that name into the hat just because he is gay. VERY easy to just start a rumour, people pick it up on social media, and then it becomes all "oh, no smoke without fire..."
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Old 29-04-2013, 14:30
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Pallial report in the Mirror http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...#ixzz2RrGynLHc

Guardian http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/ap...-abuse-victims


SOCA http://www.soca.gov.uk/news/546-nati...in-north-wales
(link near bottom of page to download a copy of the Report in English or Welsh)
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Old 29-04-2013, 14:39
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Video clip from police press conf http://news.sky.com/story/1084391/no...sh-allegations

N. Wales Police statement, and contact details for victims
http://www.north-wales.police.uk/new...spx?lang=en-gb
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Old 29-04-2013, 14:43
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This is a very big day for the N. Wales care home victims, after all those years in limbo.
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Old 29-04-2013, 15:50
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N. Wales police press conf in full
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...ty_29_04_2013/
from 1m15sec in

then from 1hr 9min, interview with NSPCC's Peter Watt
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Old 29-04-2013, 16:02
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Jim Davidson blog
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/media/ne...-innocent.html
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Old 29-04-2013, 16:48
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Jim Davidson is one on the most repulsive creatures I have ever had the misfortune to meet, and nothing about him would surprise me.

Doesn't mean he's guilty in this case though. I suppose we'll have to wait and see.
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