I Bought 2 new phones at xmas, been with o2 for ages, and are still with them.
But didnt buy phones from them as they were dearer by £35 each
dearer than carphone warehouse,
and the carphone warehouse ones are ..''unlocked'' ... no o2 junk and not tied with o2 android updates, just samsung.

mentioned this to the staff in o2 shop, they just said thats our price take it or leave it.

5mins in carphone shop, both bought and setup by staff and 2yr warranty

They have also been trialling the use of LTE as a replacement for fixed line broadband in very rural areas where it would be impractical to roll out something else. They haven't said that they want the spectrum for this but I'd have thought it is under consideration if they felt it would be a good solution.

Virgin Media have begun rolling out fixed services with fujitsu with co-operation with power firms,it seems more effective and costs less than rolling out traditional cable systems and ADSL.

This just shows BT should not have been privatised completely especially when they are expecting public handouts to roll out Broadband and maintain public payphones in rural areas.

BT payphones remain profitable in urban and suburban areas as they are funded by advertising and believe it or not people do still use them even with the 60p minimum call charge, less people than before but BT payphones overall nationally rakes in a good few million a year. The most common call are to Freephone numbers as they are free and payphone companies generate 18.5p per minute through every 0500/0800/0808 call, such calls are chargeable from mobiles. 101 is also free from payphones. This is why it is important to keep them in the community. But with BT its profit first although coming across a faulty BT payphone is rare, they do maintain them well.

And as I mentioned BT telephone boxes should be used for wifi and 4G purposes as well, its convenient and beats black spots.

Arquiva has recently taken over Spectrum Interactive, and is a wifi provider and they too operate public street payphone kiosks, some red&yellow and some black called New World, they have begun offering wifi from them and also macrocell masts for I think T-Mobile.

I think it is bizarre that Arquiva would be interested in such a small company,however to look at, all the wifi points,internet desks and payphones are all located in the busiest locations including streets,airports,shopping centres and hotels.

There is so many options for these companies, just planning law with high costs and silly licences get in the way.

Telefónica has no plans to float O2 UK on the Stock Exchange, its chief operating officer has said.

Doesnt mean it wont be sold if they get a good offer I guess!


http://www.mobiletoday.co.uk/News/23...flotation.aspx

What a load of rubbish, how stupid can they be! They need to let go of the whole lot including Movistar.

I'm surprised neither the Spanish or European and even the British government is not doing anything about it, after all its behavior like this which has created a recession.

I say British because O2 is headquartered here

But Nick you haven't thought this through! the company is currently valued at less than the sum of it's assets. Therefore if they sold the whole lot they still wouldn't pay the outstanding debt.

They believe they are undervalued, so have set about floating Latin American stocks which they believe will go for more than the credit agencies and some analysts think. If they do it shows there is more value in the company and therefore the ratings might be improved and the investors might increase confidence. They are banking on growth and improvement in the markets and Spain's economy improving the financial situation too. If they run the businesses well and turn them around they will be valued higher.

They have embarked on a series of cost cutting measures with 6,500 redundancies in Spain. They have started asset sales in order to meet agreed debt reduction targets, these targets continue though until 2015. China unicom, Attento, O2 Germany, the Latin American assets all going to try and meet debt reduction targets, and there will be more through to 2015. The point though is that they can turn around as the Spanish economy improves and as the debt reduces.

Telefonica digital is certainly starting to do well for them, run by the man who did the deal to bring the iPhone exclusivity to O2, the man who did the deal with Tesco for Tesco Mobile, the man who re-branded the millennium dome to the O2 arena. Mathew Key is now in charge at Telefonica Digital, with the aim of "enhancing Telefónica's ability to operate in the digital environment, thereby increasing the company's growth potential". The company is doing a lot of work in this area, which could be their saviour as investors see the potential in this side of the business.

They won't sell the lot though because as I say it's currently valued at less than the debt owed. Their credit rating is one from the bottom, so they won't be access to any more borrowing and if they need to invest in 4G for some networks, assets from others have to go.

O2 in isolation is a profitable company, always has been. The problem comes from Telefonica, they wanted a company to make up for their unprofitable businesses elsewhere, and with O2 they found it.

I was on O2 for years, the signal was good enough, the customer service really good. Then Telefonica came, the signal went worse, the investment wasn't being done at the rate it was needed, the customer service went more and more outsourced. I left and joined tesco mobile, I don't have wonderful signal but I pay £10 a month for a contract that would cost twice that on O2, the service has always been great, the only exception is when O2 goes down.

The Full Monty is not comparable at all with Three's One Plan because T-Mobile cap the maximum speed & don't allow tethering.

and be bizarrely ironic if what was BT Cellnet were once again to be owned by BT.

T-Mobile don't cap their maximum speed anymore.

According to the most recent posts here they have reinstated a throttled service of 5Mbs down & 1Mbps up http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...0#post63692070

I'm on Virgin which uses T-Mobiles network and I just ran a test from my house and got 10+Mbps UP and 2+Mbps down so if tats true then they don't do it to Virgin customers which is odd.

That's nothing.

In early 2008, the N95 8GB could be purchased free on a £35, 18-month O2 tariff through Carphone.
However, if you wanted to buy it directly from O2, you'd have to pay £75/month to get the handset for free.

BT were in fact one of the bidders amongst Telecom Italia and Telefonica when O2 plc was for sale in 2005.

Don't forget BT also owned the networks in Holland,Germany,Ireland and Isle of man.

The operation in Holland was called Telfort and the logo featured the BT pipes logo. The dutch operation was rebranded O2 but was sold off again and reverted back to Telfort.

O2 Germany was called Viag-interkom and was part owned by the owners of E-On/Powergen.

Cellnet was originally part owned by Securicor but it was fully taken over by BT in 1999.

All of BT's former wireless networks apart from Manx Telecom were part owned by someone else,strangely months before the decision to dispose, BT acquired all the remaining 50% stakes and spent too much on 3G licences and outbid NTL of a 3G licence.

Governments should block such takeovers if they owe too much. Telefonica has entered another venture, this time with Cable and Wireless Communications providing a Cable link across the Americas. Spend! Spend! Spend!

They are throttling their Full Monty customers not every user of their 3G network.

That's poor, I would rather have virgins 10GB limit with no speed cap than unlimited with a cap.

Well with wireless internet at home and with many having free access to public wifi outdoors, I find it hard to exceed 500mb now, some people do go over board.

By the way as Virgin Mobile is a virtual network, depending on how much they are paying EE, the standard speed maybe slower than T-Mobile and Orange's 2G and 3G standard internet speeds. As a reseller, Virgin Media maybe being undercut by EE, as they both need it to be commercially viable. As you may remember, Virgin Mobile offered the most expensive GPRS and 3G internet in the UK until recent price changes.