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Jac Naylor Life, Loves, History, Future Discussion Thread
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wiggles247
10-03-2014
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“Just looking back on past storylines (from which I'm sure they are drawing inspiration) they could repeat pasrt of the Owen / Chrissie saga, thinking about him sleeping with Chrissie the night before he married Diane”

Grief, I hope not!!!!
kitkat1971
10-03-2014
Originally Posted by wiggles247:
“Grief, I hope not!!!!”

I hope not too but it would be a way of dragging it out even further and hurting Jac even more. He sleeps with her but still decides that Bonnie is the 'better' girl for him and proceeds to marry her.
wiggles247
10-03-2014
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“I hope not too but it would be a way of dragging it out even further and hurting Jac even more. He sleeps with her but still decides that Bonnie is the 'better' girl for him and proceeds to marry her.”

Or not (as the case may be!!!)


He'll have to get a wiggle on (in every sense of the word!) if it's going to happen for the location episode though
kitkat1971
10-03-2014
Oh they can do these things in the space of an episode if they want. Bonni's off on her hen night, Jonny cuts his stag do short as he wants to see Emma, goes to Jac's flat, gets talking, naturetakes it's course withBonnie none the wiser. Then weeks / months of Jonny being scared Bonnie will find out - similar to the time Joseph slept with Jac whilst on a 'break' with Faye but worse because he and Bonnie were verymuch together. I wouldn't put it past the current soapiness of producers.
sohvimus
10-03-2014
Originally Posted by wiggles247:
“Bearing in mind that, according to Bonnie, Jonny was a bit of a ladies man when they were training, and that he tried (and succeeded) to get Jac into bed the first time he met her I do think it's telling that (as far as we know) he only had that one half-hearted attempt to go out with someone else (?after 'slapgate' with that patient's mum) in all the time he's been at Holby, until Bonnie turned up.”

It was actually whilst Jac was in Japan after she slept with Sean and Mo had a partly serious go at Jonny for moping after Jac.
wiggles247
10-03-2014
Originally Posted by sohvimus:
“It was actually whilst Jac was in Japan after she slept with Sean and Mo had a partly serious go at Jonny for moping after Jac.”

I sit corrected , and now you've said it I (sort of) remember it

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“kitkat1971
Oh they can do these things in the space of an episode if they want. Bonni's off on her hen night, Jonny cuts his stag do short as he wants to see Emma, goes to Jac's flat, gets talking, nature takes it's course with Bonnie none the wiser. Then weeks / months of Jonny being scared Bonnie will find out - similar to the time Joseph slept with Jac whilst on a 'break' with Faye but worse because he and Bonnie were very much together. I wouldn't put it past the current soapiness of producers.”

And really think it would be a push because they're still in the planning stages (apparently for the day) in episode 24 (but suppose they did have a whole week in one episode for Sacha/Chrissie's wedding so they could do the same for this). Actually, I think it's more likely
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that if Jonny/Bonnie do actually get married in episode 25 then it'll be a slow, steady realisation on one/both of their parts that it isn't right for them
kitkat1971
10-03-2014
Well you can still be planning things very close to the day, yes there is loads of it at the start like settling on day, venue but stuff like menus, seating plans are finalized much later.
wiggles247
10-03-2014
I'm imagining that if it is episode 25 then
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it'll be because they phone up the registry office in episode 24 to book it and then are told that (wouldn't you just know it ) there's been a cancellation for sometime in the next week so everything else will be a bit ad hoc, e.g, Bonnie just wearing a nice normal dress, the do just held in Albie's etc. Which would also give them the perfect excuse for there to be no sign of Jonny or Bonnie's families yet again (it's too short notice for them to come)
kitkat1971
10-03-2014
Yes, I expect that is exactly what happens - if it is in episode 25. At least let them mention families this time, no word of them at the birth (not even an 'I just phoned Gran to tell her') or Christening was bad enough, surely a wedding can't go by unmarked.
kitkat1971
10-03-2014
Don't forget they managed to organise everything for Chrissie and Sacha's wedding in one episode. In fact, in one morning by Chrissie!!!!!
kitkat1971
10-03-2014
Actually I'm trying to think of any wedding that was planned normally - ie, got engaged, named a dat fairly quickly but for a few months tume and then happened. Faye and Joseph and Chrissie and Sacha both married some months after getting engaged but prevaricated about naming the day and got married within a couple of episodes. Of them deciding on the date.
wiggles247
10-03-2014
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“Actually I'm trying to think of any wedding that was planned normally - ie, got engaged, named a dat fairly quickly but for a few months tume and then happened. Faye and Joseph and Chrissie and Sacha both married some months after getting engaged but prevaricated about naming the day and got married within a couple of episodes. Of them deciding on the date.”

At least Sacha and Chrissie's wasn't too elaborate (although I do wonder if Rodolfo's is an obvious choice to be licenced for weddings ), Joseph and Faye's was much more unrealistic. Can't remember if it was held at 'Byrne Manor' or not but even if it was, there was far too much there to be organised in a couple of weeks, no matter how much preparatory work they'd done. Good caterers/florists/photographers/hairdressers (and I can't imagine Anne-Marie settling for anything than the best) are booked months (if not years) in advance.
kitkat1971
10-03-2014
Joseph and Fayes was at Byrne Castle, rather unbelievably all organised without Joseph's knowledge - it was relocated from a Hotel. I seem to recall Sophia had been sagging a caterer so maybe that's how they dealt with that side of things and they probably do know a lot of the 'right' people to organise things at short notice. All those Foundation and Charity events Anne-Marie is involved with, not completely unbelievable she could call in favours with a veiled 'we won't use you again if you let us down' vibe.

I find the Rudlofos thing harder to believe - Chrissie rings them up in the morning and they are able to either cancel any bookings they'd had for the afternoon or evening or get staff in, food for a large party, disc jockey, place decorated etc,, etc.
wiggles247
10-03-2014
Hmmm, hadn't thought about it like that.

Suppose we'll have to wait and see what the next set of spoilers say and we can take it from there. Think it'd be funny if all our theories came to naught though, like the 'who's the daddy' storyline that we got into such a tizz-was about (because very occasionally they don't do the most obvious thing!!).
kitkat1971
10-03-2014
Yes, and me being convinced we'd have a Christmas birth. Though to be fair to myself I did say either Christmas or episode 13 as they always do something big then and it was episode 13. If it isn't a rushed job, I still say that episode 52 is likely and in some ways would prefer that as it gives more time for something to go wrong but equally don't know if I can cope with 8 months of wedding planning and them making goo goo eyes at each other across the Ward.
Collins1965
11-03-2014
I wonder if they DO go with the one night stand before the wedding scenario if Jac would get pregnant again??? It would fit in with a real life pregnancy if Rosie was, in fact, pregnant.

The other possibility is that they would have an affair after J and B get married, which would be even worse.

I once had a boyfriend break up with me and then marry the next girl he went out with. Whilst engaged he told me that he fancied me more than he fancied her and I had more personality in my little finger than she had in her entire body but that he thought she would make a good wife and mother!!! I thought he managed to insult both of us in one go by saying that! But maybe that's how it is with Jonny - Jac is the one that really gets to him but Bonnie is the one he could see himself living his life with.

By the way that ex did marry that girl and they are still together today with 3 children and having gotten through a cancer battle so maybe he was right!! Luckily I did meet someone else who thought I would make a good wife and mother and it worked out for me too!!!
kitkat1971
11-03-2014
I'be had a similar thing twoce. One serious boyfriend married his next girlfriend - i'd thought he had commitment issues - turned out it was just with me! That said I was too young then, he was a bit older than me - I was only 21 when we split. Then someone I went out very casually with soon after, we broke up, nexy Valentines Day he sent me flowers and asked me out again saying he wasn't over me. I turned him down then a month later heard he was engaged. Met his fiancee and heard they'd been together 5 months - so 3 before he tried to get back with me in February!

I also think an affair after marriage if it is fairly quick is a possibility. Whilst I think Jac did learn a lesson with Lord Byrne, I can see that she might view Jonny as having been hers and Bonnie took him away from her so not feel any guilt. Plus, she doesn't like Bonnie at all.
Collins1965
11-03-2014
Yes, Jac would feel that Jonny was hers first plus of course the fact that they are linked for life by the bond of parenthood. Plus, not liking Bonnie she would feel that she owes her no favours...................BUT..............I would still feel that such behaviour was "beneath" Jac as she is now. I could understand a passionate kiss in the heat of the moment but a full blown affair would be tacky.
scotsgal21
11-03-2014
Don't know if anyone has seen the Spoilers released in the Magazines for Tuesday 18th yet!! but all I can say is!! OMG!!

Big Spoilers Below just to warn

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From the spoilers in Whats on TV, Jonny goes to Jac looking for a reaction about the engagement, but Jac comes across as pleased for them. Jac then realises its Jonny who has the doubts when he wants to know what her true feelings are. Michael Thomson said over the next few episodes, they question what they mean to each other and what happens next!! It then says "but where does that leave unsuspecting Bride to be Bonnie?


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So I am thinking either its going to play our and they start having an affair or Jonny will come clean right away, but I think Oliver Kent with him wanting "juicy" storylines it might play our as an affair. Just my thoughts though.


What do you all think?
kitkat1971
11-03-2014
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I was just coming on to report on exactly that.

Given the spoilers for the next week I doubt he does anything straight away, indeed if Jac just dismisses him asking how she feels and his concern then he has no reason not to proceed with the wedding - which does make me think that we are headed for an affair in future episodes which is the phrase used re them 'really starting to queiosnt what happens next and what they mean to each other'

Also, it is Bonnie that natters about it, asking Mo to be Jonnnys best man (another bloody Faye and Chrissie that thinks it is their job to decide who their Groom's best man is - I mean yes Jonny probably would want Mo but it is still up to him to decide and aske her as far as I'm concerned) and Mo lets it slip to Jac by text whilst organising a stag do. Organising a stag do that quickly suggests an early wedding date to me.

These spoilers do cheer me up a bit though as although it is childish, I really want Jonnny to be the one more conflicted, not him merrily pressing ahead whilst Jac tears herself in two.
wiggles247
11-03-2014
Just had a thought, am now wondering if:
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the location episode is the stag do and (because not many people have those the night before anymore) then the wedding will be episode 26 (marking the halfway point of the series with something special) which will either go ahead or not (depending on the whims of tPtB)


And Collins have to agree with you - I'd be quite disappointed if Jac actually had a full-blown affair with Jonny (I'd hope she's better than that) although could quite imagine (and forgive) a passionate kiss
kitkat1971
11-03-2014
I'd be quite disappointed in her as well but not as disappointed as if they had her be a bad mother. I'm really not condoing it but I can see how she'd justify it as Bonnie having been the one that came along and put a spanner in her and Jonny's workds (and to be fair they were getting on and he was about to move in with her until Bonnie showed up and started speaking against her and offering nights out clubbing, beer and kebabs under his nose) so alls fair in love and war. To a certain extent Bonnie didn't seem to spend much time worrying about how her involvement would upset Jac during her pregnancy or the days after the birth or affect custody arrangements.

I'm a bit disappointed that Mo doesn't seem to be skeptical about the wedding and showing any concern for Jac.
kitkat1971
11-03-2014
Oh had a thought about this enquiry pure speculation so not spoilering but is it possible that Ric delays when operating on David and Mo is a witness to that? Or something else to do with that situation.
sohvimus
11-03-2014
Bonnie is definitely behaving like a lovesick 17-year-old. All she can do is moan about Jonny actually taking his job seriously and talk about their relationship.
kitkat1971
11-03-2014
Originally Posted by sohvimus:
“Bonnie is definitely behaving like a lovesick 17-year-old. All she can do is moan about Jonny actually taking his job seriously and talk about their relationship.”

Yes. I can't say I noticed her going out of her way to include Jac in any of their little giggly chats over the last few months so no sympathy for her being excluded.

Where was Emma when they went to this Pub with the guest ales? With them I assume - along with her oxygen, stats monitor etc...

And if she does something wrong and Jac isn't allowed to tick her off, then Jonny must - whether they're together or not.
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