My mbff (aka Roger) just rang me from work because he heard from a mutual friend that I was hurt tcracked my head falling over on ice last week - actually have little stitches identical to Tara's last Tuesday). I hadn't told him because I had hubby and daddy looking after me and was a little embarrassed and didn't want to worry him. He as soon as he has heard has rung, talked to me for 10 mins and offered to take leave to be with me when my husband can't due to work.

That, to me, is true, pure love.
I have several very, very good female friends who I have known for 20 years if not more but there is a particular bond with me and Rog and I think it is partly because we are different gendors.

I think Sacha is the only person in my view who is an absolute true friend, who will give it to you straight (if you are out of control or unreasonable) and also be there for you when you are at the lowest ebb. It was very evident with Eddi ( in her camoxidan addiction and Luc during his lowest episodes/breakdown).

I have to say the Stag scene is one of my most favourites scenes of Holby City. Jac and Sacha have such a unique bonding and friendship. I loved the way Jac said to Chrissie, more than any other man she had ever met that Sacha deserved the most happiness in the world.

His longest, trusted and bestested female friend will always be Jac and his best friend on AAU will always be Eddi (although she wasn't there very long), he always looked out for her.

Btw, I think you gals are on the right track, just saw something on twitter regarding Jac's health.


EDIT: Kitkat, its great to have a Sacha type of friend in one's life.

Who wouldn't??? For all the reasons everybody's already mentioned. I wouldn't be without my best friends for all the money in the world!!

Also, with regard to Maria's Twitter news

Would have been happy to but I can't find him! Not sure if I'm not searching for the right name (there are a few Bob Barrett's that I can see but not the right one) and he's also not being followed by Chizzy (who does appear to be following all the other cast members who have Twitter accounts - Jing, Jimmy, Catherine, Niamh, Hugh). Wondering if he's closed his account for some reason...

Also, didn't occur to me until I was just about to go to bed but
doesn't sound good.

Hope its not

This is what I thought first rather than the other theory, its all rather ambiguous, the first theory would make it more intriguing for the audience though.

EDIT: Still surprised that DS hasn't released a 2nd spoiler by now.

Oh God that's a horrible thought. But would they really have 2 characters with potentially terminal illnesses at the same time?

Basically the soap mag spoilers just say that Jac wants Jonny to take her back and he wonders if they can still work together for next Tuesday and Jac tries to impress Hansenn and the shock diagnosis that we have already hear about for the 12th.

I still think it could be a pregnancy as if they are running on real time she would only be about 7 weeks so if she conceived only days after her last period she would only have missed one which she might have put down to stress or even a side effect of the air travel and changing time zones. And of course, not everybody is regualr, some women especially once they hit late 30s do habitually miss them or have several weeks gaps rather than the standard 4. Plus, as mentioned, some women do have minor bleeding in early pregnancy.

Mysterious pains don't sound good though - would you get pains that early rather than just morning sickness unless something. Was wrong - I'm thinking maybe ectopic?

Surely Jonny would support her if she was actually ill rather than just pregnant with perhaps another mans child.

Definitely Jonny would be there for Jac if an illness occurred, even if they had split up, Jonny has that caring streak in him. For some reason, I becoming more convinced of a pregnancy plot as we all have that Tara tumour to contend with.

Sometimes in early pregnancy there can be "pains" for no real reason other than the pregnancy "settling in" so to speak - hopefully thats it.

I suppose it could always be both - just to add another layer to the whole storyline


And I also think Jonny would be there for Jac if she is ill (if she tells him that is!!)

That's a possibility - pregnancy does put increased strain on all the woman's organs after all - a lot of people's latent heart problems come to the fore then - at least if you believe HC which is where all my medical knowledge comes from !?!

I think that might actually be true (especially in the later stages of pregnancy). I've definitely heard of people with heart problems who have been told that getting pregnant might be risky for them anyway.

Ooh Jonny is going to cop off with that patients mother isn't he. And he has been brroding about Jac.

Yeah, he's definitely not over her in the slightest. Would have been interesting to see what Jac would have made of it all though. Personal jealousy plus probably a large amount of professional disapproval. Dating patients relatives is a bit of an ethical grey area to say the least!

And I concede total defeat over Jac's pregnancy and Jonny's rebound... :P (I'm just grateful it wasn't Marie-Claire)

I wouldn't discount Marie-Claire yet. Tonight's proves that Jonny still has an eye for a pretty girl, is actively trying to move on (the resolve for which could be strengthened on having day to day contact with Jac) but I don't think it'll be with the emotionally unstable and needy Sherry.

We don't know for sure that Jac is pregnant either - the spoilers just indicate something is going on and pregnancy is a possibility and one I really want as I think after 7 years it is time to see that side of her.

I really hope Sacha being all 'good thing he is moving on' like jac is some toxic witch isn't a sign of Sacha's attitude to come.

I've just rewatched and sacha actually says that Mo must be pleased that Jonny is mov ing on from Jac which if he knows anything about the situation, he'll know Mo has never been keen so he's right about her. He's not saying he thinks Jonny should be moving on. However, that little smile at the initial flirting is not good and he could defend Jac a bit (not have her referred to as a car crash). As Jac's best friend, you'd think he'd see how good Jonny is for her and be encouraging Honny to stick at it rather than walk away.

I'd love to know if Sacha knows Jac cheated. Him not persuading Jonny to keep the faith is just about understandable if he does but otherwise, he is being a cruddy, cruddy friend.

Actually, I disagree about Sacha being a bad friend to Jac. He knows her well enough to know that she wouldn't want him fighting her battles for her and also by defending her to Mo, he risks upsetting his friendship with Mo (assuming of course he knows they don't get along).

Fair point Emma re her wanting to fight her own battles but 1, when did he and Mo get that close and 2, Mo should appreciate that Sacha cares as much for Jac and she does Jonny so not make snide remarks for risk of upsetting sacha and thir friendship.

I actually think that protest or otherwise, Jac needs someone to stand up for her and perhaps, naively, thought Sacha would be the person to do that for her. She has for him, getting him off patient sexual harrassment charges and having a go at Chrissie.

They have either seriously retconned Jonny's initial character or his falling for Jac has caused him to lose his mojo. Compare the seduction technique from confidence of jac within 2 hours on the peoples skill course and a stock room the following week to being wrapped round fruit loops finger and flattered she would consider him.

Purely shallow, I think we are mainly girls here, but anyone else notice his biceps tonight? Either he has been working out, he was wearing shorter sleeved scrubs or crossing (flexing) his arms more but hubba, hubba.

Oh yes, Mo to sacha after she'd confided something - don't tell Jonny. Or announce to a listening theatre. If only she'd adopted that politeness to Jac and Jonny's relationship and specifically his confidences like possible pregnancies.

I really didn't like Sasha's comment at all and it was NOT the kind of thind a best friend should say, imo - it smacks of being disloyal. Are they going to completely overhaul Sasha's character now to fit into this new "friendship" with Mo???

I have a bad feeling in my waters (as my old Granny would say) about it.........

I'm not liking the way this is going at all. Its like the writer looked at the start of Jacha (Sacha keeping picking when Jac had a bad day till she gave in and went to dinnner) and just repeated it trampling over what made Jac and Sacha and even Jonny and Mo's friendships so special. I'm pissed off and worried about Jac (how could he not bridle at her being described as a car wreck especially given his stated belief that he knows Chrissie's history and doesn't care) but also Mo and Jonny. They made him look a dick ladt night. Forgetting Sorchas birthday (who he worked with too). Forgetting what it would mean to Mo. Ducking in and out of a date with a clearly emotinally unstable woman - what happened to the love em and leave em man who got ice queen Naylor into bed after 4 hours?

I totally agree. The Sasha we know and love would not have made such a crass statement about Jac. It's like he didn't give a damn about her - and that's just not true.

This "Holby Fit Club" thing is such an obvious route to get Sasha and Mo together - 2 "cuddly" people who obviously love their grub. Is that all they have in common?????

I am now very worried for Jac for when she gets back. Jonny trying to move on (in an idiotic fashion that is against his character development so far); Elliot constantly on her back and now Sasha acting like he dosen't care about her and sidling up to Mo as if she is the best thing since sliced bread (pun intended).

Who is going to support Jac when she gets back?? Especially if she is pregnant or ill in some way. My blood is boiling over this.

Mo also annoyed me when she made fun of Jonny and his date to Sasha. Hello - Albie anyone?? Mo?? Yes, the married man you had an affair with while his wife was dying?????

From what I have seen so far from this week's episode, I just can't see Sacha abandoning his friendship with Jac, they have so much history together. He may have said the odd tactless sentence but I don't think he meant it to demean Jac and I really believe that he will always be there for Jac. Its the same with Mo and Jonny.

Also, with regards to Jonny, he is still not over Jac. He is going through his rebound phase imo. There has to be more friction between him and Jac before they reconcile, isn't that what the writers are supposed to create ? These scenes we have seen are temporary blips imo, but the writers want to make Jac suffer abit more which I think is too much as she has already had horrible childhood and doomed love affair to the man she should be with in an ideal world.

Keep calm
and
Keep with Jacha