I really don't think that most of the Hospital will know that they'd got back together as it was only a couple of weeks. I realise that Jac had chilled out a lot re them being together but I still don't inagine that she's going to have been sitting in the Cafe holding his hand or similar.

Can anyone tell me what episode it was that Jac had her pregnancy scare last year (I'm feeling a rewatch coming on!)?

Edit: Never mind, found it!

No - that wouldn't really be Jac would it??


ETA: Although I think it would be nice to see that side of her (surely she MUST have 'that' side - as we've discussed before everyone likes fuzzy bears at some level!!) occasionally??

We did see it with Joseph early on, she used to kiss and hug him hello on the Ward when they dated in 07 and even before they got together do other various affectionate things like straightening his tie and rebuttoning his jacket. Indeed it used to be him making comments about being reserved in Public. I think she just got so burnt (burnt - get it) by all the gosspip following that situation that she closed off completely though part of that might be due to Jonny 'only' being a nurse and part of her team. It doesn't tend to be very authority inspiring if people know your sleeping with your Junior staff. She didn't seem as bothered about being seen to leave for dinner with Gleeson who was on a professional level with her.

I do vaguely remember that with Joseph - actually from what I recall (which may not be strictly accurate) she seemed more relaxed in general back then.
I do hope if it is the nurse thing (which I'm thinking it probably partly is, although not I think the main thing) she is able to get over it if/when they ever get back together again.
Also, that Jonny is able to get over his, for me, really annoying habit of, when push comes to shove, nearly always thinking the worst of her until she proves him wrong (like with the Imelda/Hanssen thing when he didn't give her a chance to explain about her involvement properly and their conversation before she left for Sweden to bring back Hanssen). I know he can be VERY supportive of her and has proved this many times but still think, when the chips are down and he has to make a choice about her intentions/motivations too often he assumes she's doing things for the wrong reason, rather than giving her the benefit of the doubt (although think this had changed slightly before their whole break-up)

She was much more relaxed back then, being really quite matey with the likes of Sam and Abra and generally friendly and supportive and complimentary to more junior people like Matt, Mickir and Kyla. It really was only Nick Jordan due to their history and Diane due to professinal jealousy anf feeling (rightly) that she had an unfair advantage due to her connection with Ric that she was snarky with. Joseph was definately the more reserved, socially awkward of the couple, at least when they weren't on their own. They really changed her later on and the only plot reason for it is that she had to get completely defensive and closed off for protection when absolutely everyone turned against her after Byrnegate - kind of standing tall and living up to her bad name to show she wasn't bothered even though she was - and then the habit and personae got soooo ingrained she can't snap out of it.

I really think with Jonny that it is not the status of him being a nurse as I don't think she is that snobbily petty, more that he works for her and her professional reputation is paramount. If he was a nurse on another ward or even better another hospital io don't she'd be so secretive about it.

Don't forget Jonny has Mo dripping poison in his ear regarding Jac's motives. Although he should think for himself, it's not always easy to ignore that level of sniping from someone that close. I'm a great believer in best friends (our discussions last week) but he really needs to distance himself from Mo on the subject of Jac if / when they reconcile.

I think the main difference between how she acted with Jonny and how she acted with Gleeson is the fact that she had an emotional bond with Jonny, that she was perhaps scared of having due to how many times she's been hurt in the past (even if this was sometimes her fault to an extent), and being very obvious about being with Gleeson, with whom she didn't have the same feelings for, was her way of denying this (partially to herself as well as to Jonny and everyone else).

Definitely think there's something in this. Also, think that with Eamonn there was an element of saving face in it too - she was (I think) hurt that she hadn't been asked to Jonny's b'day drinks until Tara mentioned it on the day, so had said she had plans. Then when Eamonn asked her out I guess she thought it would at least make that true (although would also have made it obvious that she hadn't actually had plans before.) Think we had a discussion about this before (?main Holby thread) and there was some debate about whether Jac was actively trying to show Jonny that she'd moved on/make him jealous, and my take on it was that she really didn't think he'd be that bothered because of some of the things he'd said earlier in the day.

Yes, there is always the Mo effect I suppose. Although, perhaps this won't be such a factor now???

I agree with this later on in the relationship but she didn't have an emotional bond with Jonny at the start and was very 'does she know' re Mo and 'I don't want people gossiping about something that is going nowhere' as soon as he started work on the Ward. I really, really do think that him being technically her subordinate does have a great deal to do with it - maybe she doesn't want to be viewed as a sex pest?

Gleeson was a bit of a face saving exercise I agree (she had something to do except to attend drinks she hadn't actually been invited to) and maybe she did view him as having some potential as a new boyfriend? I don't believe that she really wants to be alone forever and she was probably subconsciously trying to reassure herself she'd done the right thing dumping Jonny. On paper he looked like quite a good candidate for a relationship. Whilst I don't think she made it obvious she was going out with him to hurt Jonny, I think she probably wanted him to know that she wasn't sitting at home moping about him.

Even though I (still) haven't read the full spoilers for the week after next am wondering how this 'shock diagnosis' will come out?

Would imagine that if it's stomach pains she's having (which I'm assuming it is) then she might have an ultrasound which would presumably mean somebody else will be operating the machine and therefore know whatever the diagnosis is as well. (Unless, like some of the radiographers I used to work with Jac does her own, but really can't see that.) If this is the case - obviously it won't be just some random, never seen before, radiographer so who do you think it might be??
I could imagine Jac letting Sacha or maybe Elliott do it but would imagine that whoever it is, it will cause complications because someone else will know whatever it is....

Maybe its an eptopic pregnancy......................

I was thinking that, and I guess that the 'who's the daddy' storyline would still work on an emotional level for the characters, but not a practical one (in terms of who's involved in bringing up the child etc). If they do go down that route, I imagine that Jac and Jonny will get back together at some point in the next few months and decide to have a baby together (or is that just wishful thinking?!).

Definitely not wishful thinking.

Maybe following Jac's "excruciating pains" might bring about a reunion a bit sooner though? There's nothing like a life-or-death scenario to bring out a confession of love... :-P

I'm still not sure the PTB/script writers would give up on such a cracking storyline (with all the opportunities for complications/ confusion/ conflict and general emotionality) that quickly. Not that I'm saying Jac having an ectopic pregnancy wouldn't be a good, emotional storyline, but I just think they could put us all (and Jac/Jonny) through the emotional wringer a lot more by having Jac being and staying pregnant (and we all know how much they like doing that!!!!!)

ETA: Although 'excruciating pains' does sound like it could well be an ectopic, so perhaps I've misjudged the emotional sadism of JY and the rest of the Holby crew!!

My thoughts are along the same line as yours Wiggles, but they've surprised me with storylines in a very similar way quite often before... plus we know how much they like chucking angst at Jac (though I agree that either way has the potential to be pretty angst-ridden).

I do hope that Jonny is there to support Jac through the 'pains', whatever they turn out to be. However, if she's still pregnant with potentially another man's child, I think it's going to take a lot more than this for them to get back together.

And once again, I must remind myself that she might not actually be pregnant!

Shes back tomorrow! OMG I can't wait

Hanssen too - so that's my Tuesday evening sorted!! Am just hoping its not too terrible for her!!

New spoilers for the 12th from the mags released today - a couple of which have interviews with Michael Thomson. There is good, bad and intetesting and it does pretty much settle something we have been discussing so don't read unless you really want to know

Thanks for that kitkat.

I'm glad

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Oh my goodness me!!!!!!!! Really wasn't expecting to hear Jac say that!!!!

But yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (for now anyway)

Jac and Jonny were so heart breaking yet endearing tonight. I really do like them so much now, plus they are quite funny together. Darwin story was my favourite in the comic relief department. Looks like its all ok on the janny front for now.

Ok. I'm won over to team Jac/Jonny

Me too, resisted for too long, this episode finally nailed it for me.
Finally, I do wish we had a ' I love you' scene with Luc and Eddi in their last episode together.