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Old 17-03-2015, 23:38
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I agree, said it on the main thread too, she is unbelievably cute!!

They are not even trying to hide Rosie's pregnancy now, are they She looks beautiful
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Old 18-03-2015, 00:12
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I agree, said it on the main thread too, she is unbelievably cute!!

They are not even trying to hide Rosie's pregnancy now, are they She looks beautiful
I think they are still making an effort but sometimes (like in those surgery scenes with those gown things) it's damn near impossible to disguise it

Loved the banter between Jac and Jonny tonight (and actually all the Darwin-ites) reminded me of the before Bonnie pregnancy days

Also, Elliot really should know better then to say the Q word, and I'm actually sure the 'night shift on geriatrics' would be anything but anyway
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Old 18-03-2015, 04:12
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Yep i agree Ai that almost halo shot of Madonna and child as Jonny came round reinforced my belief they'll go together.


Also he has survive surgery (as i always said he would) so PRISON is now only obstacle.

Might wait until tomorrow to fo on the main thread Thoufh.
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Old 18-03-2015, 17:57
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I think they are still making an effort but sometimes (like in those surgery scenes with those gown things) it's damn near impossible to disguise it

Loved the banter between Jac and Jonny tonight (and actually all the Darwin-ites) reminded me of the before Bonnie pregnancy days

Also, Elliot really should know better then to say the Q word, and I'm actually sure the 'night shift on geriatrics' would be anything but anyway
I like that they are not hiding her away behind desks etc all the time. We all know that Rosie is pregnant at the time of shooting it and no-one cares, really!

I too enjoyed the banter on Darwin. Jac and Jonny have a lovely relationship now - mutual respect and affection. I think I would prefer it to stay that way rather than them get back together romantically but anything is better than the bitter custody battle!!
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Old 18-03-2015, 20:42
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I think they are still making an effort but sometimes (like in those surgery scenes with those gown things) it's damn near impossible to disguise it

Loved the banter between Jac and Jonny tonight (and actually all the Darwin-ites) reminded me of the before Bonnie pregnancy days

Also, Elliot really should know better then to say the Q word, and I'm actually sure the 'night shift on geriatrics' would be anything but anyway
Yes, from my experience of visiting Geriatric wards there are always a couple of Patients with Dementia who can often be very noisy and that doesn't stop at night! Also there must be a high chance of at least somebody passing away overnight.
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Old 18-03-2015, 20:47
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I like that they are not hiding her away behind desks etc all the time. We all know that Rosie is pregnant at the time of shooting it and no-one cares, really!

I too enjoyed the banter on Darwin. Jac and Jonny have a lovely relationship now - mutual respect and affection. I think I would prefer it to stay that way rather than them get back together romantically but anything is better than the bitter custody battle!!
Yes, the thing that puts me off the idea of them having a temporary sunset ending is the near inevitability of a nasty breakup when they come back (assuming Jonny does come back). I couldn't bear to go through another period like last Spring/Summer.

As i say, even they did a good job of torpedoeing the relationship all though season 16 (from the moment Bonnie appeared until the end of the custody case) they didn't completely sink it and I do think Jonny and Emma is Jac's best chance of a sunset ending, even if only short. Term and i do so think she deserves that after all the ++++ they've thrown at her.

I really do,'t think there is any chance of ever getting Joseph back now, even for just a couple of episodes.
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Old 19-03-2015, 17:41
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Yes, the thing that puts me off the idea of them having a temporary sunset ending is the near inevitability of a nasty breakup when they come back (assuming Jonny does come back). I couldn't bear to go through another period like last Spring/Summer.

As i say, even they did a good job of torpedoeing the relationship all though season 16 (from the moment Bonnie appeared until the end of the custody case) they didn't completely sink it and I do think Jonny and Emma is Jac's best chance of a sunset ending, even if only short. Term and i do so think she deserves that after all the ++++ they've thrown at her.

I really do,'t think there is any chance of ever getting Joseph back now, even for just a couple of episodes.

I'd like to think that if they do give them a HEA and then the inevitable breakup comes that it will be a mature one without bitterness, with them agreeing to co-parent Emma as best they can. As you say, they have thrown so much **** at Jac up to now that she really doesn't need any more.

I agree with you about Joseph, sadly. The only way Jac and he will end up together would be off-screen, as they implied heavily with Luc and Eddi. I would take that, though!!
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Old 19-03-2015, 18:30
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Yes, would have to be off screen

Of course a sunset ending could involve yet another man but I think they managed to do well to. Make Jonny different enough to Joseph for it not to feel lke a cheap replacement that Jac could still fall for - plus of course finding an actor that had instant chemistry with Rosie. The chances of managing to get that elusive x factor a third time, unlikely i think. Plus it might start to make. Jac look a bit fickle if she had 3 great loves of her life when she is so closed off.
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Old 24-03-2015, 16:56
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Liking the spoilers for the next couple of weeks. Hate to say 'i told you so' but everything seems to be turning out as I predicted a few weeks ago. Talk of Guy being jealous at Jac and Jonny's "affectionate interactions" on 31st plus the husband remembering what happened with the battery. Then the 7th has Jonny "laying into Guy for not believing in his iNnocence".
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Old 25-03-2015, 08:52
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Will Guy fire Jonny I wonder? He could pick up a job in the States fairly handy I imagine if he went with Jac and Emma.

Maybe him firing Jonny then backfires on Guy which leads to Hanssen returning to clear up the mess? Yay!!
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Old 25-03-2015, 15:56
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Will Guy fire Jonny I wonder? He could pick up a job in the States fairly handy I imagine if he went with Jac and Emma.

Maybe him firing Jonny then backfires on Guy which leads to Hanssen returning to clear up the mess? Yay!!
I really do think the situation with Jonny (and potentially Jac if she feels she has no choice but to go) is going to lead to Hansenn's return. It is so clearly a personal vendetta now judging from the spoilers
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Old 25-03-2015, 18:56
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Will Guy fire Jonny I wonder? He could pick up a job in the States fairly handy I imagine if he went with Jac and Emma.

Maybe him firing Jonny then backfires on Guy which leads to Hanssen returning to clear up the mess? Yay!!
Haven't read any spoilers (so just a gut instinct) but I rather think Jonny might resign rather than let Selfie sack him, with perhaps a spot of whistle-blowing about what's been going on to top things off, And I really do think after the clip from next week's episode (when Jonny is talking about them being a real family) that he, Jac and Emma will be heading off together
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Old 25-03-2015, 19:26
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As i've been saying the weeks, i truly believe that Jonny will whistle blow on Guy once he has been cleared, basically telling the Board and possibly Press about all the extra operations meaning staff had to work double shifts, we're tired and couldn't cope which lead to Julie's death - because it did, there weren't enough staff to enable constant monitoring, if steve hadn't been left alone he wouldn't have been able to change the battery. That when staff raised it (he wasn't the only one to sign the petition) they were over ruled and implicitly threatened with losing their jobs. That when somebody did die, Self basically organised a kangaroo court to make a Nurse a scapegoat rather than blame procedures. Etc, etc. That would be enough to get Self put under close scrutiny, if not actually fired but would also make it very difficult for Jonny to work at the Hospital so resignation. Plus, from a personal point of view, if he and Jac do reconcile they probably won't want to have to deal with Guy on a day to day basis but that is private so couldn't be used to get the Board to back them rather than Guy.

Really i'm envisioning a scenario similar to how Julian Chapman left Casualty back in season 7 if anybody remembers that.

But once Guy has properly gone (which i think will happen at the end of the season) they will be able to come back and Hansenn would probably want them too as he was a supporter of both.

Annoyingly i can't get the clip to work, what does Jonny say about being a family?
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Old 25-03-2015, 21:46
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As i've been saying the weeks, i truly believe that Jonny will whistle blow on Guy once he has been cleared, basically telling the Board and possibly Press about all the extra operations meaning staff had to work double shifts, we're tired and couldn't cope which lead to Julie's death - because it did, there weren't enough staff to enable constant monitoring, if steve hadn't been left alone he wouldn't have been able to change the battery. That when staff raised it (he wasn't the only one to sign the petition) they were over ruled and implicitly threatened with losing their jobs. That when somebody did die, Self basically organised a kangaroo court to make a Nurse a scapegoat rather than blame procedures. Etc, etc. That would be enough to get Self put under close scrutiny, if not actually fired but would also make it very difficult for Jonny to work at the Hospital so resignation. Plus, from a personal point of view, if he and Jac do reconcile they probably won't want to have to deal with Guy on a day to day basis but that is private so couldn't be used to get the Board to back them rather than Guy.

Really i'm envisioning a scenario similar to how Julian Chapman left Casualty back in season 7 if anybody remembers that.

But once Guy has properly gone (which i think will happen at the end of the season) they will be able to come back and Hansenn would probably want them too as he was a supporter of both.

Annoyingly i can't get the clip to work, what does Jonny say about being a family?
"He say just as we starting to feel like a proper family And now I'm facing years in prison"
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Old 25-03-2015, 23:04
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"He say just as we starting to feel like a proper family And now I'm facing years in prison"
Yep in a conversation with Elliot who is (for some reason) holding a recent picture of Jac with Emma and Jonny's notes and says 'you must miss her'

then Jonny says his bit

then Elliot says 'not if I can help it'

Also, in another scene Jac is talkng to Elliot and says that they cant send him back to prison, Elliot - I don;t want to but don't know what else we can do, Jac 'we can't give up on him'

and in another scene Kibo husband is in HDU (with Elliot, Mo and Adele trying to get him out) getting upset because 'you haven't changed the battery' which appears to make Mo (and possibly Adele) put 2 and 2 together


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Old 25-03-2015, 23:31
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Thanks all.

Of course Adele will have to be involved in sorting it out!!!!!

I always thought something would happen to trigger the husband's memory.
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Old 25-03-2015, 23:37
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Yep in a conversation with Elliot who is (for some reason) holding a recent picture of Jac with Emma and Jonny's notes and says 'you must miss her'

then Jonny says his bit

then Elliot says 'not if I can help it'

Also, in another scene Jac is talkng to Elliot and says that they cant send him back to prison, Elliot - I don;t want to but don't know what else we can do, Jac 'we can't give up on him'

and in another scene Kibo husband is in HDU (with Elliot, Mo and Adele trying to get him out) getting upset because 'you haven't changed the battery' which appears to make Mo (and possibly Adele) put 2 and 2 together


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Well the next two weeks will certainly be interesting to see how the storyline plays out for jac and Jonny. I for one hope there is a happy after ever ending for jac and Jonny especially after what they have been through since the beginning when they first meet and immediately got in bed with one another. And I've been a fan ever since. Apart from Joseph, jonny has only been the only one to come close in breaking jac'a ice maiden persona. So I thought once she had baby Emma that's it she could happy with Jonny and her.. But no the story had be ruined by bringing in bonnie the custody battle leaving Emma in Jonny's care. So I really do hope there is a happy ending to it all and that Jonny get his wish of the speech to jac what he wanted (from series 15 episode when jac admitted she slept with the Sean guy from paedratics dept)..
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Old 26-03-2015, 07:59
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Hmmm,this is interesting

http://www.radiotimes.com/episode/dh...ueeze-the-pips

sounds like Jonny makes his decision on personal-professional grounds - wonder if Jac follows him??

Although wonder who Archie was?? Presumably the one who was moved, which enabled him to nab the top bunk before that other lad arrived.


Also, notice its written by Nick Fisher so should be good. And am assuming from the episode title that this is the one where Jonny gets his own back on Self and am rather hoping that your guess about that scene is right kitkat!! It really couldn't happen to a nicer man if it is!!!!!!
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Old 26-03-2015, 16:32
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Might stop any more Zosia's ever being brought into the World!!!!!!

Yes, how many cell mates did he have in what can only have been a couple of days?

Maybe he decides he has got to whistle blow which means leaving, talks to Jac about it and she chooses then to bring up how accommodating the Americans were willing to be re childcare for Emma and that they might help him too. He then realise how lovely she's been without him even knowing (giving up the chance of relocating with Emma because it would hurt him too much) and asks if they all can't leave together for a fresh start.

Given that Guy might well be horrible to her for being nice to Jonny, Jac might jump at the chance to get away.

This does make it seem almost definate that Jonny quitting and leaving (along with Jac) is the episode 26 'shock'.
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Old 31-03-2015, 18:12
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Old 31-03-2015, 23:14
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Old 31-03-2015, 23:53
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That's Michae Thomson's phrase for it.

When the Spring trailer first came out I said that it looked as though Jonny literally had Guy by the balls in their confrontation, as he uttters the line "you are not going to squeeze my pips"
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Old 01-04-2015, 00:17
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Yay you indeed, but apart from missing the 'special handshake' don't think I did too badly on the Mystic Meg front myself:
Have you seen the new Holby preview yet

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02kr14s

have to say I'm a bit worried about Jonny!!! but do wonder (and am desperately hoping) if that scene of him and Mr (Up Him-)Self(-Obsessed/Interested)-ie* when he's talking about him not being able to squeeze his pips () and wearing a rather smart blue jacket might be his exit line after all the police and stabby-prison nastiness (cos am presuming that's what happened in the hospital scenes with him on the operating table - I definitely saw handcuffs and that green thing he's wearing looks like prison scrubs to me) has all been cleared up, and that he then goes off to be with Jac (who makes him "very happy") because the scales have well and truly fallen from her eyes regarding 'that man'.


Also, and know I've said this on the man thread but you can't say it often enough to my mind; thank the lordy lord for Henrik Hanssen!!!!!! Also love 1) Digby's haka; 2) the demon headmaster's appearance; 3) Mr T (always and just because!!); 4) the fact that Essie is back (and the fact that I think she and Sacha are playing a blinder on Zosia and Dom); 5) that board member (who isn't Mr Cunningham) and Serena; 6) Elliot giving 'that man' what for in his own inimitable way and 7) once again Hanssen, and his moral compass - cos you've got to love a moral compass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


* pick your favourite insult (there are so many to choose from - wonder if that was deliberate)
BIB: and think this definitely happened tonight - the look she gave him after Jonny was taken away!!
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Old 01-04-2015, 14:51
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I've actually just reread the interview and he actually says Jonny gives Guy a 'very tight handshake'. I still think I'm right about where though!
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Old 07-04-2015, 01:22
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In case i forget on Wednesday, apparently it is Michael Thomson's birthday on 8th.
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