Originally Posted by sohvimus:
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Wow, that's....erm...unexpected!!!
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“I think that is very likely.
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“I think that is very likely.
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Ah 'denial land' - I know it well
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“Thank you.
I think she definitely does the opposite - it is like the defence mechanism is so ingrained, she is so determind not to give anybody any insight into her psyche (therefore giving them power to hurt her) that she will take any manner of other abuse to prevent it. It is interesting that the few times she has ever talked about it, it has been very matter of fact and you get the impression that the other person engaged in the conversation already knows the basic story like her casually mentioning being in foster homes to Lord Byrne in 'Paranoid Android' and the argument with Joseph in 'Bad Reputation' and when her mother came back in 'Bette Davis Eyes'. Now of course it makes sense that she would have had to have told Joseph when they were dating and he would have passed the pertinent facts onto his Mum and Dad if only to avoid the awkward 'and what do your parents do Jacqueline, where are they today' conversation when she spent Christmas with them but it would be nice to see her explain it properly for the first time to someone. All that has come close was Michael and Sacha in 2010.
One time I was screaming at the tele for Jac to say something about her motives was soon after Sahira turned up and Elliot reprimanded her for proceeding with a risky operation behind his back. He asked her why she did it and nearly crying she just replied 'you know why'. Now maybe I was reading too much into it but I thought that meant that so soon after Joseph leaving and her putting all her eggs into one basket, she couldn't afford to lose her career as well as the life he had offered and I just wanted her to make sure that Elliot got that. That it was all she now had.”
“Thank you.
I think she definitely does the opposite - it is like the defence mechanism is so ingrained, she is so determind not to give anybody any insight into her psyche (therefore giving them power to hurt her) that she will take any manner of other abuse to prevent it. It is interesting that the few times she has ever talked about it, it has been very matter of fact and you get the impression that the other person engaged in the conversation already knows the basic story like her casually mentioning being in foster homes to Lord Byrne in 'Paranoid Android' and the argument with Joseph in 'Bad Reputation' and when her mother came back in 'Bette Davis Eyes'. Now of course it makes sense that she would have had to have told Joseph when they were dating and he would have passed the pertinent facts onto his Mum and Dad if only to avoid the awkward 'and what do your parents do Jacqueline, where are they today' conversation when she spent Christmas with them but it would be nice to see her explain it properly for the first time to someone. All that has come close was Michael and Sacha in 2010.
One time I was screaming at the tele for Jac to say something about her motives was soon after Sahira turned up and Elliot reprimanded her for proceeding with a risky operation behind his back. He asked her why she did it and nearly crying she just replied 'you know why'. Now maybe I was reading too much into it but I thought that meant that so soon after Joseph leaving and her putting all her eggs into one basket, she couldn't afford to lose her career as well as the life he had offered and I just wanted her to make sure that Elliot got that. That it was all she now had.”
I do wonder if we'll see something about this (BIB) now she's pregnant (possibly with Jonny) because can't see how she'll be able to avoid confronting at least some of her long buried issues now. Also, am not really sure how much Jonny knows about her past - sometimes he seems to have at least an inkling of how things were for her (like at Christmas) and other times he seems totally clueless (with Eve/Lou). So can really see him (because of the type of person he is - annoyingly persistent with a really good heart) just keeping on knocking till she lets him in when he realises there is something there underlying/powering how she is (and, I'm guessing, will be during the pregnancy).





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