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Yes, that is one of my niggling fears too, although also think there is the distinct possibility that she might get a really cracking HEA too, as I think that because she is such a big (and popular) character they might not want to risk any potential backlash that killing her off might cause (I live in hope that this is the case anyway!!)
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I think they might be reluctant to kill her off on the off chance that she might return some day, I think they rate both the character of Jac and Rosie Marcel's acting skills very highly, and rightly so.
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Welll JY has confirmed, via the edium of Twitter (in answer to a question someone asked) that wait for it........
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Welll JY has confirmed, via the edium of Twitter (in answer to a question someone asked) that wait for it........
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Assuming he's trying to be funny/ironic (or is indeed being facetious - depending on your pov). Although have to say could have done with a bit of Jac in tonight's episode - might have made it slightly more bearable = was all a bit strange this evening!! |
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Surely if she was going to be off screen for so long they would have to say that RM was taking a break, or something to that effect. I doubt the couse in Japan would go on for that long!!
It could be as long as 3 months, though, but I hope not. Holby needs Jac!! |
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No, as I said think JY is just trying to be funny - replying to a question about when Jac will be back with an answer that is technically (and obviously) corrrect but actually gives you no useful information at all (a skill he's very good at!!!).
I'm fairly sure Jac'll be back within the next 4 to 6 weeks because apart from anything else I'm fairly sure soap actors get paid by the episode - and don't think Rosie could go sans salary for 9 months (although I'm not sure how that works out with things like maternity pay?) |
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I wasn't going to say this on the main thread as I'm really not one of those people that only watch shows for 1 or 2 characters and don't want to be seen as such. HC is an ensemble show and the air time needs to be spread evenly across the 18 or so characters.
Buuuuttttttt........God was Tuesdays painful with no Jac, Jonny or Hansenn. The next few weeks are going to be hard going judging from the spoilers as I think we've just got more of the same - Tara, Malicks son and Gemma who is already winding me up. The only decent new ones are Digby (maybe) and Hamish but I don't think he'll be around long. I think that they are paid set rate for each season - I'm not sure the number of episodes is set in stone though they probably have some idea. It gets complicated because of the double or treble banking - they could be filming 3 episodes on the same day depending on which sets and actors are needed. I worked out who was in the most episodes in season 13 and 14 a while ago to disprove certain claims about some characters 'never' being used and it was quite interesting. Hansenn and Sahira were unsurprisingly at the top of season 13 and early 14 but Malick and Chantelle both had very high episode counts so I don't think it is quite as simple as number of episodes - they must look at who is carrying the main plot each week. I think it probably averages out to most of the cast appearing in two thirds to three quarters of the episode (between 35 and 40 out of the 52) though only carrying the main story about half of that time. Sahira, I remember, only missed 3 episodes in her first 10 months - no wonder we were sick of her and Laila felt overworked! |
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I wasn't going to say this on the main thread as I'm really not one of those people that only watch shows for 1 or 2 characters and don't want to be seen as such. HC is an ensemble show and the air time needs to be spread evenly across the 18 or so characters.
Buuuuttttttt........God was Tuesdays painful with no Jac, Jonny or Hansenn. The next few weeks are going to be hard going judging from the spoilers as I think we've just got more of the same - Tara, Malicks son and Gemma who is already winding me up. The only decent new ones are Digby (maybe) and Hamish but I don't think he'll be around long. I think that they are paid set rate for each season - I'm not sure the number of episodes is set in stone though they probably have some idea. It gets complicated because of the double or treble banking - they could be filming 3 episodes on the same day depending on which sets and actors are needed. I worked out who was in the most episodes in season 13 and 14 a while ago to disprove certain claims about some characters 'never' being used and it was quite interesting. Hansenn and Sahira were unsurprisingly at the top of season 13 and early 14 but Malick and Chantelle both had very high episode counts so I don't think it is quite as simple as number of episodes - they must look at who is carrying the main plot each week. I think it probably averages out to most of the cast appearing in two thirds to three quarters of the episode (between 35 and 40 out of the 52) though only carrying the main story about half of that time. Sahira, I remember, only missed 3 episodes in her first 10 months - no wonder we were sick of her and Laila felt overworked! I'm hoping we'll get back to 'business as usual' next week, with fewer cliches (nearly turned over when the lift broke down!!) and a bit more story telling rather than tricksy camera angles (guts can was ok once but wouldn't want to see it too many times!!). Also think Michael's storyline could be quite interesting (although think I'll have issues with its accuracy |
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Have been thinking about the whole Jac/Jonny situation (my work avoidance takes many forms although, not as yet, pen balancing on staplers kitkat) and had some random thoughts: Quote:
kitkat1971 I'm betting that when Jac comes back she'll either be confronted by the sight of Jonny kissing someone (a random nurse or possibly Marie-Claire) or (over)hear Jonny and Mo talking about how his date last night had gone I was thinking exactly the same thing about his getting involved with other people (after all his original biog said he wanted to settle down with the right woman was happy to play the field until then - something we've seen little of) and marie-claire was the only cast member I xould think of that's the right age and free. Quote:
Was actually thinking that she'd probably/possibly try to talk to him about it early on (just after she finds out) but he'll understandably still be upset/angry and only be willing to talk about work/patient-related things. This will cause her to retreat into herself and put on her best self-reliant, 'I don't need anyone' front (as she can do so well) and decide to do it on her own, making a lie about timings/dates the easiest option.
Am then thinking Jonny could find out that she's pregnant but believe her about the dates (because why wouldn't he believe that she'd had another ONS/fling when she'd already cheated on him?). Then hoping that he'll realise (possibly through the old chestnut of Jac and/or the unborn baby being placed in some kind of danger/peril - ?assaulted by a pt) that he does still care about Jac, start to get involved with the pregnancy, begin to consider that he could love another man's child and then realise that said baby could be his. Not that I've thought about this much you understand ![]() ![]() Actually just thinking how funny it'd be if, after all this thought/speculation on my part, it turns out that Jac isn't pregnant after all. Think, despite all the potential problems/pitfalls, I'd actually be quite disappointed now - seeing the way Jac was looking at Mo's crib scene before Jonny turned up at the end of the Christmas episode, and how bad I felt for her when she explained to Sacha why she didn't want to go to his for Christmas, think it'd be lovely if she had her own family (even if it's just her and the baby) to celebrate with and feel she belongs to, next year. |
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I think Jac is the life and soul of Holby at the moment - boy, was she missed in this week's episode!
I wish there was a way that she, Sasha and Miacheal could work together - it would be so much fun! On Darwin, who has she to "play off"?? Elliot berates her, Mo undermines her and Jonny second guesses her. Ollie and Tara have no impact whatsoever. Apart from the romantic entanglement with Jonny, there is no "spark" on Darwin for Jac at all. It is a real shame, I think. |
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Yes, am hoping that the Jac/Jonny break-up might mean there'll be more Jac/Sacha scenes - with him being his usual lovely self and her letting him because she's so upset and really needs someone to be nice to her! Also, am wondering if she is pregnant if he'd be the person she tells first??
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I agree Jac and Hanssen were sorely missed this week. I even missed Jonny and Mo's input.
I am with you wiggles, would love to see Jac, Sacha and Michael scenes, it would help greatly help the atmosphere. Those three are really good together. Hopefully, Jac should be back by 24th February. She can't be gone that long. |
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I very much have the feeling that she will shut him out to protect everyone, him, her, baby in case it isn't his and he can't cope. With her history she might think it'd be worse if she includes him has jer and the baby depend on him and love him for it all to go wrong. Of course this defence relfex will be even worse if he is still rejecting her or seeming to move on with other women during the early stages.
Of course this may all be assuming too much but you do realise a baby conceived between Xmas and the middle of January would be due late Sept / early Oct? Just in time for the big end of season episodes. They can do DNA tests before birth can't they but I don't know if it carries risks to the baby - I imagine it might so they'd be arguments about that. I hope she has more scenes with Sacha as well - they'll need each other if she is pregnant, alone with everyone on Darwin either against her (Mo, maybe Elliot), indifferent (Tara, Ollie) or not knowing which way to turn (Jonny) and him maybe splitting with Chrissie which I'm sure is on the cards this year. |
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I very much have the feeling that she will shut him out to protect everyone, him, her, baby in case it isn't his and he can't cope. With her history she might think it'd be worse if she includes him has jer and the baby depend on him and love him for it all to go wrong. Of course this defence relfex will be even worse if he is still rejecting her or seeming to move on with other women during the early stages.
Of course this may all be assuming too much but you do realise a baby conceived between Xmas and the middle of January would be due late Sept / early Oct? Just in time for the big end of season episodes. They can do DNA tests before birth can't they but I don't know if it carries risks to the baby - I imagine it might so they'd be arguments about that. I hope she has more scenes with Sacha as well - they'll need each other if she is pregnant, alone with everyone on Darwin either against her (Mo, maybe Elliot), indifferent (Tara, Ollie) or not knowing which way to turn (Jonny) and him maybe splitting with Chrissie which I'm sure is on the cards this year. !) but yes it would fit with the end of series finale!Googled it and you can get pre-natal DNA tests done although there is a slight risk of miscarriage and you also need the permission of the man/men involved. Also, apparenty lots of doctors would be unwilling to do such a test if the only reason it is being done is to prove paternity because of the medical risks/ethical implications,... http://www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/what-is-...CategoryID=615. |
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Interesting. That is what I suspected the case would be - really it's best not to have any procedures unless absolutely necessary - I think they only take samples if there is a risk of hereditary genetic illness which might lead to consideration of a termination. So,if I were writing it, I would probably (once Jonny knows the dates of course and that he is in the running) have one of them keen to have the test so they can know and prepare and the other vehemently against it due to the risk of miscarriage.
I'd also imagine that as the actor is now in Emmerdale, there will be a mention that Sean has changed hospitals so maybe he can't be contacted for consent if jac even wants him to know it's a possibility so that would put a stop to the test as well. I think we are meant to assume that jac and Jonny got together at Xmas and that was fairly solid until Sweden. Then a couple of days in Sweden! Back and slept with both on same day as they made it clear the store room was the first time they'd seen each other since she got back. So I'd imagine they'll say the scan shows it was conceived that week - increasing the odds of it being Jonnys from before she went away (which I really hope it turns out to be) but a chance of Sean. What are we going to do if this plot doesn't happen? |
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I have absolutely no idea!!
Although can't actually see the script writers/TPTB letting such a golden emotion-wringing opportunity go really. As long as Jac doesn't go down the termination route (which I think would be the worst possible outcome for lots of reasons) think I'd be disappointed if it doesn't come to pass now - think it'll be lovely for Jac to have her own family (even if it's just her and the baby) to belong to!! |
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Interesting. That is what I suspected the case would be - really it's best not to have any procedures unless absolutely necessary - I think they only take samples if there is a risk of hereditary genetic illness which might lead to consideration of a termination. So,if I were writing it, I would probably (once Jonny knows the dates of course and that he is in the running) have one of them keen to have the test so they can know and prepare and the other vehemently against it due to the risk of miscarriage.
I'd also imagine that as the actor is now in Emmerdale, there will be a mention that Sean has changed hospitals so maybe he can't be contacted for consent if jac even wants him to know it's a possibility so that would put a stop to the test as well. I think we are meant to assume that jac and Jonny got together at Xmas and that was fairly solid until Sweden. Then a couple of days in Sweden! Back and slept with both on same day as they made it clear the store room was the first time they'd seen each other since she got back. So I'd imagine they'll say the scan shows it was conceived that week - increasing the odds of it being Jonnys from before she went away (which I really hope it turns out to be) but a chance of Sean. What are we going to do if this plot doesn't happen? |
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That would be perfect provided they haven' falled out so. Much in the lead uo as she wouldn't be able to keep a pregnancy secret and Mo at least would be sniping.
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I can see an argumentament of probabality I they were at like raBbits just before she went to Sweden assuming it was a couple of dayS
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If Jac does come back pregnant Mo will have a field day when she finds out! Can you imagine the sniping and the comments......
The "big finale" would have so much more impact if the new series didn't start a week later ![]() Having said that seeing Jac with her new born baby (no matter who the dad is) would be a lovely way to end the series off. The fact that Sean and his wife needed to undergo IVF is interesting. It's usually the woman's difficulty in these cases which would mean he could very well father a child with Jac - and what if his wife miscarried (as is often the case with IVF) and then Jac had his baby after a one night stand?? That would be awful for Sean's wife. I'm not sure I would welcome such a complication in Jac's life. The much easier solution is that Jonny is the dad, of course. |
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That would be perfect provided they haven' falled out so. Much in the lead uo as she wouldn't be able to keep a pregnancy secret and Mo at least would be sniping.
Can imagine Mo - assuming Jonny's told her or she's heard it through the hospital grapevine - being (justifiably) furious with Jac when she first comes back from Japan (know I have been when people have cheated on my friends) Not sure how she'll react when she finds out about the pregnancy (but can definitely imagine sniping would be something she'd do) - I suppose it'll depend on how they play the storyline. If Jac makes out that it is the result of something that happened in Japan I think she'll be telling him that he's lucky it wasn't him, and will discourage him from getting involved with any aspect of the pregnancy (although think he still will as per my earlier posts) If Jac tells the truth and says it could be Jonny's but she's not sure I think Mo'll be constantly reminding him that the baby might not be his and that he shouldn't get too emotionally involved, but would I think tell him that he has to face up to some of the practical responsibilities just in case the baby is his. If Jac tells a lie and says that the baby is definitely Jonny's (which I don't think will happen for lots of reasons, principally because I don't think she would but also because it'd be a very hard deception to pull off these days) think Mo might be the one putting doubts in to Jonny's mind about whether Jac is really telling the truth. In all these cases, however, think that Mo would feel she was acting in Jonny's best interests - trying to stop him getting hurt if the baby does turn out not to be his - and, to be fair, think she would have a point!! I think my view of Mo will be shaped by the form her reaction takes - if she's simply pointing out the facts (ie. that the baby might not be Jonny's) and just keeps re-inforcing that, then personally (although I'd find it hard) think I'd have to say she's entitled to do that. If however, it's more pernicious (casting doubt on Jac's mothering ability etc) then that would definitely be out of order. Especially because I'm sure most of the other Holby characters (with the obvious exception of Sacha and possibly Chantelle and Hanssen) will all be casting aspersions (whether publicly or privately) about Jac's maternal nature or probably, as they would see it, lack of it when her pregnancy becomes public knowledge |
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If Jac does come back pregnant Mo will have a field day when she finds out! Can you imagine the sniping and the comments......
The "big finale" would have so much more impact if the new series didn't start a week later ![]() Having said that seeing Jac with her new born baby (no matter who the dad is) would be a lovely way to end the series off. The fact that Sean and his wife needed to undergo IVF is interesting. It's usually the woman's difficulty in these cases which would mean he could very well father a child with Jac - and what if his wife miscarried (as is often the case with IVF) and then Jac had his baby after a one night stand?? That would be awful for Sean's wife. I'm not sure I would welcome such a complication in Jac's life. The much easier solution is that Jonny is the dad, of course. Also, had another (randomish) thought about how Jonny-baby interaction might go..... There are complications when Jac goes into labour meaning that she has to have an emergency c.section = general anaesthetic = Jac out for the count. She'd asked for Jonny before being given the anaesthetic so he is there when the baby is born and because Jac is unconscious is the first person to hold the baby after it's born, so maybe more chance of him bonding with her/him even if it is Sean's???? Cos new born babies are incredibly cute and do bring out the protective maternal/paternal instincts in most people. Hoping that any Jac pregnancy might also mean we see more of that lovely obstetrician who wanted to go out with Mo (?Mr Thompson) and/or that really odd (but incredibly funny) obstetrician who was in the episode with the over-weight lady who didn't know she was pregnant. |
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I don't know what we are all going to do if Jac comes back and shes not pregnant!
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I donm't either! We've all put so much thought into it. Seriously though - it has been a while since we had a pregnancy in it (Chrissie and Faye 3 years ago unless you include Mo) and ithey do seem to have been hinting at it for so long with Jac and she isn't getting any younger
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And surely they (scriptwriters/PTB) wouldn't pass up such a golden opportunity to put all of us Jac & Jac/Jonny fans through the emotional wringer!?!
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