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Old 15-01-2013, 14:58
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Old 15-01-2013, 14:59
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Lol. Will be going to EE4G if they are reintroduced Devon.
I would and try and get on the business side if you can blag it. CS is fantastic.
I am actually a sole trader but the CS guy just took me at my word and asked me for a business name. Did it without any paperwork proof!
makes it dead easy to get a signal box as well. Just ordered my second one. No questions asked!
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Old 15-01-2013, 16:06
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Lets wait to the 16th and see it it happens as we don't have any corroboration from tmobile as of yet.
Well...

I doubt they'd confirm this if it's something that the full monty plan was meant to have all along. If their terms state there's a cap, and it's removed, they still have the right to re implement the cap at any time. On the other hand, if the terms didn't state there's a cap, there would be trouble.
Exactly. Seeing as T-Mobile never admitted there was a cap in the first place, openly lied about it really (I wonder if the £19 "speed increasing" booster is coming back too?!), then they're hardly going to admit that the speed cap is coming back, albeit slightly increased.

But that's the point. There's no mention of a speed cap when you sign up or in the terms.
Quite. There's never been any mention of a speed cap of any kind on T-Mobile's website, not one, and I looked - and considering I found the ONE single page on Orange's website that mentioned PAYG Extras that last for 3 months (back in the day when they offered them) I like to think I know how to look for stuff like that.

For my part I'm not too fussed about all this - I'm on the One Plan on Three and, with all this carry on with the Full Monty and speed caps, as a data user I'm so not budging.

I do have one question though, which appears to have gone unanswered so far; will this 'new' cap apply to Orange's iPhone Extra 51 tariff and Virgin Mobile's new unlimited (well, 10GB before the throttle kicks in) data tariffs? Or is it only T-Mobile's unlimited data tariffs that have the pleasure?
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Old 15-01-2013, 16:35
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No, it's only T-Mobile FM plans. Orange/EE4G unaffected.
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Old 15-01-2013, 16:44
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I would guess the best way of getting them to admit it would be to try and get one of the tech sites to cover it. I've been running regular speed tests at home and getting speeds between 7 and 15Mb, so it will be very obvious if an artificial speed cap is brought in. If it happens, I will write to T-Mobile and ask them directly about a speed cap, and see what they say.
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Old 15-01-2013, 16:46
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I would guess the best way of getting them to admit it would be to try and get one of the tech sites to cover it. I've been running regular speed tests at home and getting speeds between 7 and 15Mb, so it will be very obvious if an artificial speed cap is brought in. If it happens, I will write to T-Mobile and ask them directly about a speed cap, and see what they say.
Yeah, report back and let us know. may not happen till the 17th of course if they don't do it until late tomorrow.
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Old 16-01-2013, 00:06
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Still no cap getting 16Mbps / 3.7Mbps on FM
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Old 16-01-2013, 07:45
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Just hit 6.8 up and 3 down
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Old 16-01-2013, 09:01
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Yeah, just had 9 down 3 up here.

There's still plenty of time though!
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Old 16-01-2013, 12:42
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Right, another update. It's possible it won't happen till Friday.
But info suggests from 19:00 today.
Bit vague I know.
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Old 16-01-2013, 13:02
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No, it's only T-Mobile FM plans. Orange/EE4G unaffected.
I'm guessing you mean EE 3G with regards to Virgin Mobile, as I don't think anyone in their right mind thinks EE 4G is going to be speed capped any time soon, but either way - thank you.
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Old 16-01-2013, 17:53
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Well I just meant as far as EEs three brands are concerned, Only T-Mobile FM plans are affected. Anyone on Orange or EE4G will not be affected. MVNOs like Virgin do their own thing anyway and decide how they are going to cap/restrict seperately.
Yes speed capping LTE would be amazingly dumb since its main selling point is speed

At the end of the day it works like this....

T-Mobile - Budget 3G brand
Orange - Premium 3G brand
EE4G - Flagship 3G/LTE brand

T-Mobile being the budget brand is bound to have some restictions somewhere.

If you were Paying Orange £51 per month for Unlimited calls, texts, data and tethering, you'd be pretty p****d if they suddenly capped your speed.
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Old 16-01-2013, 18:01
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At the end of the day it works like this....

T-Mobile - Budget 3G brand
Orange - Premium 3G brand
EE4G - Flagship 3G/LTE brand

T-Mobile being the budget brand is bound to have some restictions somewhere.
Which would be fine if they allowed you to make an informed choice. But with no mention of speed restrictions when you sign up, and an absolute denial that it exists from customer service, they're not honest about it.
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Old 16-01-2013, 18:03
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Well I just meant as far as EEs three brands are concerned, Only T-Mobile FM plans are affected. Anyone on Orange or EE4G will not be affected. MVNOs like Virgin do their own thing anyway and decide how they are going to cap/restrict seperately.
Yes speed capping LTE would be amazingly dumb since its main selling point is speed

At the end of the day it works like this....

T-Mobile - Budget 3G brand
Orange - Premium 3G brand
EE4G - Flagship 3G/LTE brand

T-Mobile being the budget brand is bound to have some restictions somewhere.

If you were Paying Orange £51 per month for Unlimited calls, texts, data and tethering, you'd be pretty p****d if they suddenly capped your speed.
How can tmobile be a budget brand when their data speeds (and coverage alone on 3G) is better (even with caps) than orange?
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Old 16-01-2013, 18:28
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Which would be fine if they allowed you to make an informed choice. But with no mention of speed restrictions when you sign up, and an absolute denial that it exists from customer service, they're not honest about it.
Really good point
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Old 16-01-2013, 18:29
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Anyway no cap here yet
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Old 16-01-2013, 18:32
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How can tmobile be a budget brand when their data speeds (and coverage alone on 3G) is better (even with caps) than orange?
Hey don't shoot the messenger
That's from an official article I read when EE4G launched. That's the way EE are marketing the brands. it's been mentioned several times on here.
Anyway Orange will be as good as the other two once the integration is completed.
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Old 16-01-2013, 18:51
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I think my speeds are being capped..

Speeds are refusing to go above 4/1mb..

I recently upgraded to FM coming from 3 because I was getting speeds above 15mb+ most of the time..

No speed cap was mentioned at that time...

Is T-Mobile in breach of their agreement now?
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Old 16-01-2013, 18:53
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Yeah, I'm being capped now too.
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Old 16-01-2013, 18:57
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Not being capped here, although I am on Sim Only full monty which has never allowed tethering yet it works for me.
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Old 16-01-2013, 18:58
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Not being capped here, although I am on Sim Only full monty which has never allowed tethering yet it works for me.
I'm on SIM only too.

Really not happy about this at all. I don't know how they can do it and not even acknowledge it.
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Old 16-01-2013, 19:33
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Can you guys on FM try now. The cap should be in place.
I did mention 7pm earlier.
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Old 16-01-2013, 19:37
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Struggling to get over 1 down .5 up here, the local mast is terrible at this time of night.
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Old 16-01-2013, 19:48
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Can you guys on FM try now. The cap should be in place.
I did mention 7pm earlier.
Getting 5.8Mbps down and 2.2Mbps up at the moment.
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Old 16-01-2013, 19:52
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Hmmm, interesting. I have it on good authority the cap is in place.
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