Speed caps being reinstated on Full Monty plans

DevonBloke · 15-01-2013, 14:58

Deleted. Where is that bloody "delete post" button DS?

DevonBloke · 15-01-2013, 14:59

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Lol. Will be going to EE4G if they are reintroduced Devon.

I would and try and get on the business side if you can blag it. CS is fantastic.
I am actually a sole trader but the CS guy just took me at my word and asked me for a business name. Did it without any paperwork proof!
makes it dead easy to get a signal box as well. Just ordered my second one. No questions asked!

lost boy · 15-01-2013, 16:06

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Originally Posted by beecart

Lets wait to the 16th and see it it happens as we don't have any corroboration from tmobile as of yet.

Well...

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Originally Posted by carguy143

I doubt they'd confirm this if it's something that the full monty plan was meant to have all along. If their terms state there's a cap, and it's removed, they still have the right to re implement the cap at any time. On the other hand, if the terms didn't state there's a cap, there would be trouble.

Exactly. Seeing as T-Mobile never admitted there was a cap in the first place, openly lied about it really (I wonder if the £19 "speed increasing" booster is coming back too?!), then they're hardly going to admit that the speed cap is coming back, albeit slightly increased.

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Originally Posted by IslandNiles

But that's the point. There's no mention of a speed cap when you sign up or in the terms.

Quite. There's never been any mention of a speed cap of any kind on T-Mobile's website, not one, and I looked - and considering I found the ONE single page on Orange's website that mentioned PAYG Extras that last for 3 months (back in the day when they offered them) I like to think I know how to look for stuff like that.

For my part I'm not too fussed about all this - I'm on the One Plan on Three and, with all this carry on with the Full Monty and speed caps, as a data user I'm so not budging.

I do have one question though, which appears to have gone unanswered so far; will this 'new' cap apply to Orange's iPhone Extra 51 tariff and Virgin Mobile's new unlimited (well, 10GB before the throttle kicks in) data tariffs? Or is it only T-Mobile's unlimited data tariffs that have the pleasure?

DevonBloke · 15-01-2013, 16:35

No, it's only T-Mobile FM plans. Orange/EE4G unaffected.

IslandNiles · 15-01-2013, 16:44

I would guess the best way of getting them to admit it would be to try and get one of the tech sites to cover it. I've been running regular speed tests at home and getting speeds between 7 and 15Mb, so it will be very obvious if an artificial speed cap is brought in. If it happens, I will write to T-Mobile and ask them directly about a speed cap, and see what they say.

DevonBloke · 15-01-2013, 16:46

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Originally Posted by IslandNiles

I would guess the best way of getting them to admit it would be to try and get one of the tech sites to cover it. I've been running regular speed tests at home and getting speeds between 7 and 15Mb, so it will be very obvious if an artificial speed cap is brought in. If it happens, I will write to T-Mobile and ask them directly about a speed cap, and see what they say.

Yeah, report back and let us know. may not happen till the 17th of course if they don't do it until late tomorrow.

danielmeah · 16-01-2013, 00:06

Still no cap getting 16Mbps / 3.7Mbps on FM

SkyPlatinum · 16-01-2013, 07:45

Just hit 6.8 up and 3 down

Mr Mot · 16-01-2013, 09:01

Yeah, just had 9 down 3 up here.

There's still plenty of time though!

DevonBloke · 16-01-2013, 12:42

Right, another update. It's possible it won't happen till Friday.
But info suggests from 19:00 today.
Bit vague I know.

lost boy · 16-01-2013, 13:02

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Originally Posted by DevonBloke

No, it's only T-Mobile FM plans. Orange/EE4G unaffected.

I'm guessing you mean EE 3G with regards to Virgin Mobile, as I don't think anyone in their right mind thinks EE 4G is going to be speed capped any time soon, but either way - thank you.

DevonBloke · 16-01-2013, 17:53

Well I just meant as far as EEs three brands are concerned, Only T-Mobile FM plans are affected. Anyone on Orange or EE4G will not be affected. MVNOs like Virgin do their own thing anyway and decide how they are going to cap/restrict seperately.
Yes speed capping LTE would be amazingly dumb since its main selling point is speed

At the end of the day it works like this....

T-Mobile - Budget 3G brand
Orange - Premium 3G brand
EE4G - Flagship 3G/LTE brand

T-Mobile being the budget brand is bound to have some restictions somewhere.

If you were Paying Orange £51 per month for Unlimited calls, texts, data and tethering, you'd be pretty p****d if they suddenly capped your speed.

IslandNiles · 16-01-2013, 18:01

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Originally Posted by DevonBloke

At the end of the day it works like this....

T-Mobile - Budget 3G brand
Orange - Premium 3G brand
EE4G - Flagship 3G/LTE brand

T-Mobile being the budget brand is bound to have some restictions somewhere.

Which would be fine if they allowed you to make an informed choice. But with no mention of speed restrictions when you sign up, and an absolute denial that it exists from customer service, they're not honest about it.

John_Patrick · 16-01-2013, 18:03

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Originally Posted by DevonBloke

Well I just meant as far as EEs three brands are concerned, Only T-Mobile FM plans are affected. Anyone on Orange or EE4G will not be affected. MVNOs like Virgin do their own thing anyway and decide how they are going to cap/restrict seperately.
Yes speed capping LTE would be amazingly dumb since its main selling point is speed

At the end of the day it works like this....

T-Mobile - Budget 3G brand
Orange - Premium 3G brand
EE4G - Flagship 3G/LTE brand

T-Mobile being the budget brand is bound to have some restictions somewhere.

If you were Paying Orange £51 per month for Unlimited calls, texts, data and tethering, you'd be pretty p****d if they suddenly capped your speed.

How can tmobile be a budget brand when their data speeds (and coverage alone on 3G) is better (even with caps) than orange?

SkyPlatinum · 16-01-2013, 18:28

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Originally Posted by IslandNiles

Which would be fine if they allowed you to make an informed choice. But with no mention of speed restrictions when you sign up, and an absolute denial that it exists from customer service, they're not honest about it.

Really good point

SkyPlatinum · 16-01-2013, 18:29

Anyway no cap here yet

DevonBloke · 16-01-2013, 18:32

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Originally Posted by John_Patrick

How can tmobile be a budget brand when their data speeds (and coverage alone on 3G) is better (even with caps) than orange?

Hey don't shoot the messenger

That's from an official article I read when EE4G launched. That's the way EE are marketing the brands. it's been mentioned several times on here.
Anyway Orange will be as good as the other two once the integration is completed.

tarzion · 16-01-2013, 18:51

I think my speeds are being capped..

Speeds are refusing to go above 4/1mb..

I recently upgraded to FM coming from 3 because I was getting speeds above 15mb+ most of the time..

No speed cap was mentioned at that time...

Is T-Mobile in breach of their agreement now?

IslandNiles · 16-01-2013, 18:53

Yeah, I'm being capped now too.

Helix · 16-01-2013, 18:57

Not being capped here, although I am on Sim Only full monty which has never allowed tethering yet it works for me.

IslandNiles · 16-01-2013, 18:58

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Originally Posted by Helix

Not being capped here, although I am on Sim Only full monty which has never allowed tethering yet it works for me.

I'm on SIM only too.

Really not happy about this at all. I don't know how they can do it and not even acknowledge it.

DevonBloke · 16-01-2013, 19:33

Can you guys on FM try now. The cap should be in place.
I did mention 7pm earlier.

Mr Mot · 16-01-2013, 19:37

Struggling to get over 1 down .5 up here, the local mast is terrible at this time of night.

Helix · 16-01-2013, 19:48

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Originally Posted by DevonBloke

Can you guys on FM try now. The cap should be in place.
I did mention 7pm earlier.

Getting 5.8Mbps down and 2.2Mbps up at the moment.

DevonBloke · 16-01-2013, 19:52

Hmmm, interesting. I have it on good authority the cap is in place.

15-01-2013, 14:59	#77
DevonBloke Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Totnes, Devon Posts: 6,694	Quote: Originally Posted by SkyPlatinum Lol. Will be going to EE4G if they are reintroduced Devon. I would and try and get on the business side if you can blag it. CS is fantastic. I am actually a sole trader but the CS guy just took me at my word and asked me for a business name. Did it without any paperwork proof! makes it dead easy to get a signal box as well. Just ordered my second one. No questions asked!

16-01-2013, 18:29	#91
SkyPlatinum Inactive Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 769	Cap Anyway no cap here yet

16-01-2013, 19:33	#97
DevonBloke Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Totnes, Devon Posts: 6,694	Apparently the cap in now in place. Can you guys on FM try now. The cap should be in place. I did mention 7pm earlier.

15-01-2013, 14:58	#76
DevonBloke Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Totnes, Devon Posts: 6,694	Deleted. Where is that bloody "delete post" button DS?

15-01-2013, 16:06	#78
lost boy Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Norfolkland Posts: 1,787	Quote: Originally Posted by beecart Lets wait to the 16th and see it it happens as we don't have any corroboration from tmobile as of yet. Well... Quote: Originally Posted by carguy143 I doubt they'd confirm this if it's something that the full monty plan was meant to have all along. If their terms state there's a cap, and it's removed, they still have the right to re implement the cap at any time. On the other hand, if the terms didn't state there's a cap, there would be trouble. Exactly. Seeing as T-Mobile never admitted there was a cap in the first place, openly lied about it really (I wonder if the £19 "speed increasing" booster is coming back too?!), then they're hardly going to admit that the speed cap is coming back, albeit slightly increased. Quote: Originally Posted by IslandNiles But that's the point. There's no mention of a speed cap when you sign up or in the terms. Quite. There's never been any mention of a speed cap of any kind on T-Mobile's website, not one, and I looked - and considering I found the ONE single page on Orange's website that mentioned PAYG Extras that last for 3 months (back in the day when they offered them) I like to think I know how to look for stuff like that. For my part I'm not too fussed about all this - I'm on the One Plan on Three and, with all this carry on with the Full Monty and speed caps, as a data user I'm so not budging. I do have one question though, which appears to have gone unanswered so far; will this 'new' cap apply to Orange's iPhone Extra 51 tariff and Virgin Mobile's new unlimited (well, 10GB before the throttle kicks in) data tariffs? Or is it only T-Mobile's unlimited data tariffs that have the pleasure?

15-01-2013, 16:35	#79
DevonBloke Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Totnes, Devon Posts: 6,694	No, it's only T-Mobile FM plans. Orange/EE4G unaffected.

15-01-2013, 16:44	#80
IslandNiles Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 13,091	I would guess the best way of getting them to admit it would be to try and get one of the tech sites to cover it. I've been running regular speed tests at home and getting speeds between 7 and 15Mb, so it will be very obvious if an artificial speed cap is brought in. If it happens, I will write to T-Mobile and ask them directly about a speed cap, and see what they say.

15-01-2013, 16:46	#81
DevonBloke Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Totnes, Devon Posts: 6,694	Quote: Originally Posted by IslandNiles I would guess the best way of getting them to admit it would be to try and get one of the tech sites to cover it. I've been running regular speed tests at home and getting speeds between 7 and 15Mb, so it will be very obvious if an artificial speed cap is brought in. If it happens, I will write to T-Mobile and ask them directly about a speed cap, and see what they say. Yeah, report back and let us know. may not happen till the 17th of course if they don't do it until late tomorrow.

16-01-2013, 00:06	#82
danielmeah Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Liverpool(L15)l, UK Posts: 458	Still no cap getting 16Mbps / 3.7Mbps on FM

16-01-2013, 07:45	#83
SkyPlatinum Inactive Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 769	Just hit 6.8 up and 3 down

16-01-2013, 09:01	#84
Mr Mot Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 71	Yeah, just had 9 down 3 up here. There's still plenty of time though!

16-01-2013, 12:42	#85
DevonBloke Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Totnes, Devon Posts: 6,694	Right, another update. It's possible it won't happen till Friday. But info suggests from 19:00 today. Bit vague I know.

16-01-2013, 13:02	#86
lost boy Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Norfolkland Posts: 1,787	Quote: Originally Posted by DevonBloke No, it's only T-Mobile FM plans. Orange/EE4G unaffected. I'm guessing you mean EE 3G with regards to Virgin Mobile, as I don't think anyone in their right mind thinks EE 4G is going to be speed capped any time soon, but either way - thank you.

16-01-2013, 17:53	#87
DevonBloke Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Totnes, Devon Posts: 6,694	Well I just meant as far as EEs three brands are concerned, Only T-Mobile FM plans are affected. Anyone on Orange or EE4G will not be affected. MVNOs like Virgin do their own thing anyway and decide how they are going to cap/restrict seperately. Yes speed capping LTE would be amazingly dumb since its main selling point is speed At the end of the day it works like this.... T-Mobile - Budget 3G brand Orange - Premium 3G brand EE4G - Flagship 3G/LTE brand T-Mobile being the budget brand is bound to have some restictions somewhere. If you were Paying Orange £51 per month for Unlimited calls, texts, data and tethering, you'd be pretty p****d if they suddenly capped your speed.

16-01-2013, 18:01	#88
IslandNiles Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 13,091	Quote: Originally Posted by DevonBloke At the end of the day it works like this.... T-Mobile - Budget 3G brand Orange - Premium 3G brand EE4G - Flagship 3G/LTE brand T-Mobile being the budget brand is bound to have some restictions somewhere. Which would be fine if they allowed you to make an informed choice. But with no mention of speed restrictions when you sign up, and an absolute denial that it exists from customer service, they're not honest about it.

16-01-2013, 18:03	#89
John_Patrick Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Newcastle Posts: 904	Quote: Originally Posted by DevonBloke Well I just meant as far as EEs three brands are concerned, Only T-Mobile FM plans are affected. Anyone on Orange or EE4G will not be affected. MVNOs like Virgin do their own thing anyway and decide how they are going to cap/restrict seperately. Yes speed capping LTE would be amazingly dumb since its main selling point is speed At the end of the day it works like this.... T-Mobile - Budget 3G brand Orange - Premium 3G brand EE4G - Flagship 3G/LTE brand T-Mobile being the budget brand is bound to have some restictions somewhere. If you were Paying Orange £51 per month for Unlimited calls, texts, data and tethering, you'd be pretty p****d if they suddenly capped your speed. How can tmobile be a budget brand when their data speeds (and coverage alone on 3G) is better (even with caps) than orange?

16-01-2013, 18:28	#90
SkyPlatinum Inactive Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 769	Quote: Originally Posted by IslandNiles Which would be fine if they allowed you to make an informed choice. But with no mention of speed restrictions when you sign up, and an absolute denial that it exists from customer service, they're not honest about it. Really good point

16-01-2013, 18:32	#92
DevonBloke Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Totnes, Devon Posts: 6,694	Quote: Originally Posted by John_Patrick How can tmobile be a budget brand when their data speeds (and coverage alone on 3G) is better (even with caps) than orange? Hey don't shoot the messenger That's from an official article I read when EE4G launched. That's the way EE are marketing the brands. it's been mentioned several times on here. Anyway Orange will be as good as the other two once the integration is completed.

16-01-2013, 18:51	#93
tarzion Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 622	I think my speeds are being capped.. Speeds are refusing to go above 4/1mb.. I recently upgraded to FM coming from 3 because I was getting speeds above 15mb+ most of the time.. No speed cap was mentioned at that time... Is T-Mobile in breach of their agreement now?

16-01-2013, 18:53	#94
IslandNiles Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 13,091	Yeah, I'm being capped now too.

16-01-2013, 18:57	#95
Helix Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 1,474	Not being capped here, although I am on Sim Only full monty which has never allowed tethering yet it works for me.

16-01-2013, 18:58	#96
IslandNiles Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 13,091	Quote: Originally Posted by Helix Not being capped here, although I am on Sim Only full monty which has never allowed tethering yet it works for me. I'm on SIM only too. Really not happy about this at all. I don't know how they can do it and not even acknowledge it.

16-01-2013, 19:37	#98
Mr Mot Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 71	Struggling to get over 1 down .5 up here, the local mast is terrible at this time of night.

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Speed caps being reinstated on Full Monty plans

16-01-2013, 19:48	#99
Helix Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 1,474	Quote: Originally Posted by DevonBloke Can you guys on FM try now. The cap should be in place. I did mention 7pm earlier. Getting 5.8Mbps down and 2.2Mbps up at the moment.

16-01-2013, 19:52	#100
DevonBloke Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Totnes, Devon Posts: 6,694	Hmmm, interesting. I have it on good authority the cap is in place.