1 - Nadia hit no one. That is a myth put about by Nadia-haters on this Forum. Nadia was defending herself against Vanessa & Jason. Vanessa's own account backs up this view.

2 - Nadia threw a couple of fits. Correct! So what? Victor had a few fits, so did Ahmed, so did Jason, so did Emma, so did Michelle, so did Shell. I don't see you being that bothered by any of them.

Exactly.

In which case john-john can withdraw his claims & learn not to scratch out meaningless graffiti all over this Forum in the future.

I dont think thats true at all! Yep nadia may not be the best singer in the world but big brother wasnt a singing contest! It was because of her personality that she won and has anyone that voted for nadia to win now said they dont trhink she deserves it?

as a big fan of Nadia, I'm surprised that you've endorsed a website on this forum that finds it amusing to refer to Nadia as a " man ", Eddy

Whatever point you are attempting to make ... forget it. I quote a particular article that I found entertaining ... that is all.

The only site that I endorse is the JT Forum so, with respect, stop wasting my time.

I think I've hit a raw nerve there Eddy. Still,you know best....

No, what you were doing was desperately trying to take this thread off topic by insinuating a load of rubbish based on very flimsy evidence.

Your post was a personal attack by underhand means because you know beyond any doubt that your suggestion bears no relationship to what I have actually posted anywhere on these forums.

Apologies, but I am not taking your bait.

Better luck next time.

As an ardent Nadia fan do you find it amusing when someone refers to her as a "man"? I think it's pathetic and that is the only point I was trying to make.I wasn't making a personal attack on you Eddy,I apologise if you took it that way.That's the end of it as far as I'm concerned

It was a popularity contest...that Nadia in her vanity thought her popularity would carry her in a singing career...but all her fans had faded away because they no longer liked her.......And yes people on this thread are saying they'd changed their minds about her, so claearly they don;t think she deserves it....which she didn;t....no confusion for me here....

Please don't speak for the other FMs on the forum - feel free to spout whatever you like, but please don't claim to know what everyone else feels or thinks - that's all.

As I thought you can't back up your claims! And well you know it!!!

Come on ... if my claim is, in your own words, 'absolute rubbish' ... provide some evidence. You can't, can you?? Not even a couple of examples.

You know something, the rod up your butt has got a rod up its butt.

As for meaningless graffiti, you sad, sad individual, your own particular contribution to these forums is generally posting links to some of the most offensively pathetic websites imaginable - and then having kittens if someone enlightens you as to how crap they are.

I can't claim to speak for any other FMs, but I'm sure I'm not the only one getting fed up with your ridiculous pontificating and finger wagging. To have some piece of trapped wind like yourself blowing around and taking offence at anything and everything would normally be funny, but you are without doubt one of the most humourless and self-important individuals ever to suck the life out of a discussion, and your silly adoration for z-list reality TV contestants is matched only by your inexhaustible priggishness.

For God sake, give your brain a rest for a minute and read the kind of pap you spew out - then you might get some idea as to why you always seem to be arguing with other FMs on this forum over the most trivial things.

Why is that when you find yourself backed into a corner, you respond by making several offensive personal remarks? In what way have you taken the debate forward? Why is it that you feel that your posts on this Forum cannot be held to account, particularly by the few of us here that hold minority viewpoints on most of the issues being discussed.

All you have done above is prove the bankruptcy of your original point by refusing to defend it.

PS - I'm sorry that I irritate you. You can elect to ignore me.

You don't have anyone backed into a corner - this argument exists only in your own head. You're such a desperate Nadia fan that it's not enough that she won once - you're actually trying to mentally repeat her victory in a hypothetical situation, which is fine if that's what you want, but don't get upset if anyone dismisses your theorising for the nonsense that it is, especially when you are claiming to speak for other FMs (which you are certainly not entitled to do).

You are the Arnold Rimmer of the DS Forum, and if it suits your world-view to proclaim Nadia the winner of BB5 under any cirumstances or revote, then go ahead, we salute you Mr Rimmer - but its pointless and messy getting into the details of your fantasy .

I suggest you set up a website about how Nadia would always win BB5 on a revote, and then point us all to it. You will forgive me, I hope, if I decline to visit it though.

1 - The whole thread is about a hypothetical situation. Please re-read the opening post ... look out for the word 'if'.

2 - You made a claim & I asked you to elaborate.

3 - You did not, because you could not or could not be bothered. Instead you chose to post a lot of personal abuse.

4 - Your approach merely stifles debate.

5 - You ask that I stop speaking for other FMs. I do not. Yet you do as witnessed by your last two posts on this thread.

Sorry, I stopped reading round about Point 2... both your writing style and what you have to say were insufferably dull - even by your standards.


Are your typing fingers and your brain ever in the same room at the same time?

What are you getting so worked up about anyway? I bet you don't even remember what this thread is about, you've worked yourself into such a lather about it. Why can't you just be happy for Nadia that she won in this reality, and stop tying yourself in knots about it all? You'll do yourself a mischief, you really will.

guess the season to be jolly is over,

lol! And i always get told us women are bitchier than men

Well you can't have it both ways, she either hit him or she didn't, so which myth is it?

a) Nadia hit no one


or


b) Nadia hit someone, but in self defence.


If it is b, then what was Jason doing that needed Nadia to defend herself from him, attacking her, ravishing her or hitting her, what?


We all know about what Venessa said and what she was doing, but as far as Jason goes all the information we have is that he was trying to stop a fight. Now hitting someone in self defence is one thing, but hitting someone who is trying to stop a fight does not constitute self defence, in reality it shows someone who has lost the plot and is lashing out at anything or anyone without thinking, ie she had flipped and had lost total bloody control, as was evident by even Emma trying to restrain and calm her down in the bedroom afterwards.


Oh and just a thought, would ripping the pants off a couple of males and smacking their arses raw with a flip plop be classed as hitting someone?


Hammy

Nice timing, Solway. I'll leave you to attend the next EddyBee lecture on what you actually think, and on how wonderful reality TV contestants are.

There will be Powerpoint slides with bullet points and diagrams, and snorers and shirkers will be poked with a sharp stick every half hour or so.

The joy.

well tis a slow period between christmas and new year, i may have 5 mins spare, oop sorry no just found another satsuma

Jason was attempting to forcefully remove Nadia from the area where Vanessa was attempting to comfort Shell. For some reason, Vanessa did not want Nadia there.

Jason was not a 'neutral' in the situation as he was taking instructions from Vanessa ... and not for the first time that evening.

Nadia resisted Jason's & Vanessa's attempts to tell her what to do. Jason then tried to remove Nadia by force (Vanessa's account).

That is all we know. Where did you get the info about Jason from? Source?

Have you a link to Vanessa's account?

Yes ... swap you it for a link to Jason's account.