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Just interested to know. Would you vote differently...
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Mesostim
27-12-2004
Originally Posted by john-john:
“You know something, etc etc etc.”

Johnx2 - EddyBee is a well respected contributer to this forum....Your post above was simply offensive....We all have our differences but there's a place to draw the line....
Hammy
27-12-2004
Originally Posted by EddyBee:
“Yes ... swap you it for a link to Jason's account. ”

Who said anything about it being Jason's account?

Is vanessa's account top secret or something?
EddyBee
28-12-2004
Originally Posted by Hammy:
“Who said anything about it being Jason's account?

Is vanessa's account top secret or something? ”

Well, you refer to Jason trying to stop a fight. Where does that come from?

As I understood things, Jason was not some neutral observer of the events but a participant.

As for Vanessa's account ... yes, I'll try to find you one. But, not now. I am going to bed.
Eusebius
28-12-2004
Without wanting to interrupt a good old forum fight...

on topic: Would I vote differently now?

Yes. I would vote to save my money.
Myfanwy
28-12-2004
I'd not vote any differently - I'd still not bother


Cxx
swingaleg
28-12-2004
Originally Posted by Myfanwy:
“I'd not vote any differently - I'd still not bother
Cxx”


Same here, I've never voted........it's not something that bothers me, which one of them wins it, or who gets evicted each week
Mesostim
28-12-2004
Well....putting it that way....I'd vote approx 4 million times to stop Nadia winning...At least make an effort to save the franchise from hand clutching sentimentality and smugness.....
Cornchips
28-12-2004
Originally Posted by Myfanwy:
“I'd not vote any differently - I'd still not bother


Cxx”

Same here - I didn't like any of the last four. If I had to pick an order of preference though it would be

Shell
Dan
Jason
Nadia (couldn't stand the woman!)
john-john
28-12-2004
Originally Posted by Mesostim:
“Johnx2 - EddyBee is a well respected contributer to this forum....Your post above was simply offensive....We all have our differences but there's a place to draw the line....”

No, my post was totally justified, given the silly, finger wagging way he'd written about me. He gets away with that kind of Arnold Rimmer type crap far too much on here.

Anyway, I suspect this comes from my criticism of Jon Tickle the other day, which I know upset you. So if you want to have a dig at me, on you go - don't dress it up as a defence of EddyBee's insufferable haughtiness.

And please don't refer to me as johnx2, my name is john-john - calling me johnx2 is highly offensive and there's a place to draw the line, what with me being a highly respected whatever it was you said thingy.
Last edited by john-john : 28-12-2004 at 20:43
bystander
28-12-2004
Even though JJ hates my Michelle and is a little bit out of order, I'm still giving him a 5.9 for style..................and of course because he takes the piss out of Jon Tickle.
john-john
28-12-2004
That's Saint Jon Tickle to you!
EddyBee
28-12-2004
Originally Posted by john-john:
“No, my post was totally justified, given the silly, finger wagging way he'd written about me. He gets away with that kind of Arnold Rimmer type crap far too much on here ...”



You come onto these boards and make the most outrageous claims, many of which you cannot back up either by debate or by example.

When challenged by me on this thread, you get upset, lose your temper & start posting abuse & making spiteful personal remarks probably to make yourself feel better &, perhaps, to stop further discussion.

I apologise if the style of my posts irritates you but that hardly justifies your OTT reaction.

End of.
Last edited by EddyBee : 28-12-2004 at 23:15
burstovary
28-12-2004
Originally Posted by EddyBee:
“Jason was attempting to forcefully remove Nadia from the area where Vanessa was attempting to comfort Shell. For some reason, Vanessa did not want Nadia there.

Jason was not a 'neutral' in the situation as he was taking instructions from Vanessa ... and not for the first time that evening.

Nadia resisted Jason's & Vanessa's attempts to tell her what to do. Jason then tried to remove Nadia by force (Vanessa's account).

That is all we know. Where did you get the info about Jason from? Source?”

Yes he did

but it must be put in the context that Emma had had a fight with Vic when he was trying to calm everything down
and Nadia went and tipped some table...

then Nadia said some comment against Vanessa which led to Van saying "**** off Nadia"
and at this point Jason pushed Nadia


I think that what happened - or was it all a dream?

BTW fantastic fight on the forum - great to get wound up by rubbish that is meaningless after all these weeks.

I must also add that I think everyone is entitled their view to say whatever they like on here.

I generally agree with John John views.
EddyBee
28-12-2004
Originally Posted by burstovary:
“Yes he did

but it must be put in the context that Emma had had a fight with Vic when he was trying to calm everything down
and Nadia went and tipped some table...”

I don't think Jason was trying to calm things down in that he was not being even-handed.

Originally Posted by burstovary:
“then Nadia said some comment against Vanessa which led to Van saying "**** off Nadia"
and at this point Jason pushed Nadia”

That's right.
Last edited by EddyBee : 28-12-2004 at 23:47
Mesostim
28-12-2004
Originally Posted by john-john:
“No, my post was totally justified, given the silly, finger wagging way he'd written about me. He gets away with that kind of Arnold Rimmer type crap far too much on here.”

No it wasn't...it was way over the top....

Quote:
“Anyway, I suspect this comes from my criticism of Jon Tickle the other day, which I know upset you. So if you want to have a dig at me, on you go - don't dress it up as a defence of EddyBee's insufferable haughtiness.”

The meat of this post We had one (what I thought to be) very civil argument about Jon Tickle, which I understood we had some closure on....So because of that you assume I've got an axe to grind.....If I did that with everyone I had a "discussion" with I'd be at everyones' throat I can't think of anyone I've not had some difference of opinion with...even Eddy, who is a very good mate who'd I'd always support when someone is being way over the top....You should see some of the stuff that gets written about me on the Politics thread that I don't rise to, I'm way past holding grudges on online forums John-John

Quote:
“And please don't refer to me as johnx2, my name is john-john - calling me johnx2 is highly offensive and there's a place to draw the line, what with me being a highly respected whatever it was you said thingy.”

Your sarcasm is well noted....I apologise for the abbreviation.... Who'd have thought we actually hold the same opinion on the subject of this thread...oh the irony eh?
Last edited by Mesostim : 29-12-2004 at 00:10
Mesostim
28-12-2004
Originally Posted by EddyBee:
“I don't think Jason was trying to calm things down in that he was not being even-handed.”

In comparrison to Nadia he was.....
EddyBee
29-12-2004
Originally Posted by Mesostim:
“In comparrison to Nadia he was.....”

I wouldn't argue with you over this point as I am not sure.

However it is safe to say that Jason was pretty furious all that night. He started to lose his temper with the return from the bedsit of Michelle & Emma, then Vanessa stirred him up even further, then we had the incident with Marco which led to the threats to kill.

Jason was far from calm. But was he calmer than Nadia? I don't know.
Mesostim
29-12-2004
I;d say he was.....I think the thing to note is that Nadia, Emma, Marco and to a much lesser extent Michelle were intentionally and repeatedly trying to provoke a reaction out of them......they had every intention of pushing them to breaking point....Did they reaslise themselves that they were actually looking for a confrontation? When they got the result they had tried so hard to achieve they met it head on rather than walking away as the hard done to heroes they could have so easily have been edited as......They picked a fight and got one.....
swingaleg
29-12-2004
I think Jason was 'showing off' for Vanessa............they were in the bedroom, he was trying to grope her and she was moaning about the shrieking...........he went out to tell them off and to look big in Vanessa's eyes...........

Or so he thought
cheeks
29-12-2004
Originally Posted by swingaleg:
“I think Jason was 'showing off' for Vanessa............they were in the bedroom, he was trying to grope her and she was moaning about the shrieking...........he went out to tell them off and to look big in Vanessa's eyes...........

Or so he thought”

there's some truth in that,swing.If you remember Victor and Jason retreated to the hut to keep a low profile.It was Emma,Marco and Nadia who kept on coming across with the hose goading them into a confrontation.Eventually they got what they wanted........
Susann
29-12-2004
I believe Nadia and Marco were by far the worst of the instigators of fight night, probably Marco more so. He was a snide little git.

I shouldn't laugh, it probably wasn't funny, but one of my favourite bits of BB5 was actually watching Jason's face ( and how he kept his composure is beyond me ) when he threatened to rip Marco's head off. I just couldn't stop laughing at that bit Anyone who comes close to doing that to Marco, can't be all that bad
Mesostim
29-12-2004
Originally Posted by swingaleg:
“I think Jason was 'showing off' for Vanessa............they were in the bedroom, he was trying to grope her and she was moaning about the shrieking...........he went out to tell them off and to look big in Vanessa's eyes...........

Or so he thought”

Nope...not even close I donl;t think....He was wound up beyond anyone's limit by some emotionally immature people who should never have been in the house to strat with....
Omah
29-12-2004
Originally Posted by Susann:
“II shouldn't laugh, it probably wasn't funny, but one of my favourite bits of BB5 was actually watching Jason's face ( and how he kept his composure is beyond me ) when he threatened to rip Marco's head off. I just couldn't stop laughing at that bit Anyone who comes close to doing that to Marco, can't be all that bad ”

Anybody who comes close to doing that to anybody is a disturbed human being .....
Last edited by Omah : 29-12-2004 at 01:17
Omah
29-12-2004
Originally Posted by Mesostim:
“Nope...not even close I donl;t think....He was wound up beyond anyone's limit by some emotionally immature people who should never have been in the house to strat with....”

It's Jason who shouldn't have been in the house to start with - he was the only one who couldn't cope .....
swingaleg
29-12-2004
Originally Posted by Mesostim:
“Nope...not even close I donl;t think....He was wound up beyond anyone's limit by some emotionally immature people who should never have been in the house to strat with....”


But that's not inconsistant with what I said.............he'd been wound up for hours but hadn't 'kicked off' .......it was only when his groping of Vanessa got interrupted by her moaning about the shrieking in the other room that he decided to go and tell them off.

Given that he'd put up with it for hours, I think it was the 'showing off' for vanessa that spurred him to action at that point rather than earlier in the evening.
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