But the "just showing off" is like the Kittens type "just wants to tbe the centre of attention" sort of thing...It;s excuse lite which people offer for why something has happened but isn;t necessarily anything to do with it.....The fight was clealry down to to an itentional wind up....what happened after that wasn't about appealing to Vanessa's vanity.....

No, not at all...........it's an explanation, from my recollection, of why he stormed into the room at that point to confront the kids rather than kicking off at any time in the previous several hours when he was being goaded.


Vanessa was moaning about the shrieking in the other room and he wanted to act the big, hard man to impress her.

Why would he have to be showing off? Some other possibilities:

* Knowing that someone else was so annoyed by it made it easier for him to do something.

* Then it wasn't just annoying; it was also interrupting his time with Vanessa.

* Vanessa's complaining added to the annoyance so that it became too much to bare.

* He'd put up with it for a long time, but he'd finally had enough, and it's just coincidence that the breaking point came at this time.

I think everyone should just agree to blame the whole thing on Vanessa.

Sorry Swing.... that's just assumption....

Shell was there too - and we all know what she did several times .....

- wind up other people to go and fight her battles for her as she cannot do that herself, disliking arguments as she does ....

Many such problems/arguments were caused by Shell using this technique.

Passive agressive? Or coward? Or both?

I take it you think when you say "End of." like that everyone will just shut up and bow to your greater wisdom and "stop further discussion". It's the old finger wagging thing again isn't it?

Well, I will leave it with some finger wagging of my own as that is obviously the only language you understand: "If you sprinkle when you tinkle, please be sweet and wipe the seat.

End of.

The only person on this thread that is attempting to stop discussion is you with your bad tempered, abusive & spiteful rants.

You really cannot cope with criticism, can you? So you seek to silence those that dare to disagree with you with abuse.

Oh blow it out your ass.

None of my posts about you have been abusive or spiteful.

I've just managed to puncture your pompous, overblown sense of self-worth and that's what getting to you. That's what is behind all this jumping up and down and finger wagging, and why you can't leave it. You are like an uppity school prefect, too used to talking to everyone like you are an authority on every subject, and blissfully unaware of how self-inflated you sound. You must learn to chill out more.

There's a New Year's resolution for you!
Last edited by john-john : 29-12-2004 at 10:47

Sorry ... your posts above speak for themselves ... you are deliberately & repeatedly spiteful, personal & abusive

I merely challenged you on one of your posts. Your self-importance will not allow you to accept any challenge to your views. You lost your temper & well you know it.

Now I will walk away from this thread as I am certain that you will not be able to do so.

It is impossible to read your posts without seeing your face, red with rage, and huffing and puffing.

My views get challenged all the time, and rightly so. I am used to it. You cannot bear anyone disagreeing with you, and so you start jumping up and down demanding proofs and justifications, apoplectic with indignation.

But really, come on, how you expect to lecture people on here and post links to amateurish, crappy websites and not be criticised for it, I don't know. You mustn't be so thin-skinned and ludicrous at the same time - it's a bad combination.


And btw - for you to purposely join another thread just so you could post a snide remark after my last post - well, that just shows you up for the petty, angry little man you are trying to accuse me of being, doncha think?

You've got me there, Mes...............

It's my opinion, based on what I saw, and coloured by a dislike of Jason............fair enough, I'm sure you'll agree !

Ho Ho It's a fair cop.....My entire view of Jade Goody is based on a similar hatred

You hate Jade?

I would not vote for Nadia again as not only did she deceive her fellow housemates some of whom were friends about her sex but she deceived the voting public by hiding the fact that she had been a male prostitute in the past.But the reason I voted for her was because I did not think any of the final 5 deserved to win.So i guess i would not vote in the final week.

I've only just seen this squabbling, I know it is a couple of days ago now but I want to make it clear it's not acceptable.

Beth.

Would never vote, keep my money in my pocket thanks