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Old 11-01-2013, 22:23
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...launches on 29th January 2013, according to Alix Pryde of BBC Distribution.
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Old 11-01-2013, 22:41
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That is some excellent news! It is just a pity that the Wales version of the Sky HD EPG won't be showing BBC One Wales HD in the 101 position!
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Old 12-01-2013, 13:00
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That is some excellent news! It is just a pity that the Wales version of the Sky HD EPG won't be showing BBC One Wales HD in the 101 position!
Welcome to DS, Briantist.
The same of course will be true on all platforms. Ironically out of all the PSB channels, BBC Two would have been the easiest to convert to full HD regionality and to qualify for an EPG swap!
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Old 12-01-2013, 13:10
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If the BBC want better ratings for their HD channels they should seriously consider putting BBC Two HD, and in Wales, NI and Scotland, BBC One at the top of the EPG. In England it's of course more difficult, having to change to a channel a longway down the EPG to watch the regional news would be annoying for many.
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Old 12-01-2013, 14:15
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...and have the EPG providers "done" for breaching the requirements of sect 310 of the Comms Act 2003.
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Old 12-01-2013, 17:24
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I'd been fearing BBC One Wales HD on the 14th Jan, so we in Wales have a two week stay of execution with BBC One HD, before regional programmes and the constant trails for them.
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Old 12-01-2013, 17:55
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Hardly 'regional' programming - Wales is a nation!
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Old 12-01-2013, 18:17
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Hardly 'regional' programming - Wales is a nation!
Whatever you want to call it, it's usually of a significantly lower standard than the network stuff, and it's trailed to death.
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Old 12-01-2013, 18:28
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I'd been fearing BBC One Wales HD on the 14th Jan, so we in Wales have a two week stay of execution with BBC One HD, before regional programmes and the constant trails for them.
your comment doesn't make a lot of sense.
before BBC1HD launched, you had to put up with BBC1 Wales in SD anyway, so why will it be any different now that you get an HD version of your appropriate BBC regional/national variation?
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Old 12-01-2013, 18:38
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What are our chances of the EPG promenance rules changed in respect of .............

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Old 12-01-2013, 18:51
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your comment doesn't make a lot of sense.
before BBC1HD launched, you had to put up with BBC1 Wales in SD anyway, so why will it be any different now that you get an HD version of your appropriate BBC regional/national variation?
Because I've got used to watching BBC One HD, and before DSO, I could pick up BBC One West.

So, other than the few months between DSO and getting my HD box, I've always had an alternative version of BBC One.
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Old 12-01-2013, 18:54
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Because I've got used to watching BBC One HD, and before DSO, I could pick up BBC One West.

So, other than the few months between DSO and getting my HD box, I've always had an alternative version of BBC One.
get a freesat box and you'll get access to BBC One HD (network feed).
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Old 16-01-2013, 09:42
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Whilst it is welcomed that BBC 1 Wales is going HD, it looks like Freeview viewers in Wales will only be able to get BBC 1 HD if they can receive signals from an English transmitter. By combining the feed from an England facing aerial with that from an aerial facing a Welsh transmitter, viewers should be able to receive both options.

Wonder what the situation will be for Virgin customers?

Presumably, Freesat will include all nation versions of BBC 1 HD on their EPG for viewers to receive nationwide? (I still don't have BBC 1 NI in HD).

I wish Freesat would group the HD channels on 101 > 104 with the regional options for BBC 1 & ITV 1 on 999 & 998.
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Old 16-01-2013, 09:46
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Some Freeview boxes allow the user to put the channels into favourites.
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Old 16-01-2013, 10:13
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Some Freeview boxes allow the user to put the channels into favourites.
With the Latest Freesat Freetime box from Humax - the HDR1000s either the 500GB one or the 1TB one, you can do what you want with the EPG, change Postcodes, put channels in your favourites,
create your own channel number list and delete the channels that you do not want
I have put BBC1 HD on EPG Channel Number 1 for example, plus I get all the London feeds too
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Old 16-01-2013, 15:07
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Presumably, Freesat will include all nation versions of BBC 1 HD on their EPG for viewers to receive nationwide? (I still don't have BBC 1 NI in HD)
No, it won't. Only BBC One HD will be available nationwide on Freesat and $ky for AD.
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Old 17-01-2013, 13:07
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No, it won't. Only BBC One HD will be available nationwide on Freesat and $ky for AD.
How daft is that - to deprive viewers nationwide of UK Nation (Wales/ Scotland/ NI) BBC 1 versions in HD?

I watch the Getaways travel programme on BBC 1 NI at 7.30pm on Mondays. Why should I have to watch it in SD (as I do not live in Northern Ireland) when the HD version exists with superior picture quality?

Wales, especially often opts out of UK programmes. Beside sport, they often have interesting programmes such as the current series about Welsh Parks & another about Hiking in Wales (Weatherman Walking).

Presumably, people in say England, would either have to insert a Welsh / Scottish or NI postcode into their Freesat boxes* to get these versions of BBC 1 in HD (remembering that they will also get the UK wide version of BBC 1HD) or have to view them in non Freesat mode (Sky = Other Channels) which means they can't record anything else at the same time. (They might have wished to record their "home" version of Inside Out at the same time).

I see no logical reason why the HD versions of BBC1 Scotland/ Wales & NI can't be available via the EPG nationwide.

* This of course would mean that they lose their home version of ITV 1 (unless they watch it in non Freesat Mode) and their local version of BBC 1 will be in the 900's.

Sky boxes are determined by the postcode of the viewing card.
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Old 17-01-2013, 13:16
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If this point has not already been addressed in Alix blog and viewers' comments, try putting your concerns there http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/blogabout...C-One-Wales-HD
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Old 18-01-2013, 16:05
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If this point has not already been addressed in Alix blog and viewers' comments, try putting your concerns there http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/blogabout...C-One-Wales-HD
Having read that I think the general consensus is that people want.

Access to All 4 HD BBC Ones

The 3 nations to have them at 101 on the EPG

BBC Two HD to come
but not at the expense but in addition to the retention of

BBC HD for 24hrs
so we get CBBC, CBeebies, BBC Three & BBC Four HD Content

HD iplayer content.

Red button on all platforms and the abolition of platform neutrality as it forces a hold up in progress due to the constraints of the weakest platform.
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Old 18-01-2013, 18:46
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Having read that I think the general consensus is that people want.

Access to All 4 HD BBC Ones

The 3 nations to have them at 101 on the EPG

BBC Two HD to come
but not at the expense but in addition to the retention of

BBC HD for 24hrs
so we get CBBC, CBeebies, BBC Three & BBC Four HD Content

HD iplayer content.

Red button on all platforms and the abolition of platform neutrality as it forces a hold up in progress due to the constraints of the weakest platform.
Whether that is the consensus in all respects i'm not so sure (your idea of the consensus seems to be identical to what you have said you want) but, whatever, at the end of the day it is basically just a wish list. I think the "consensus" by the way would be for a BBC Three HD, BBC Four HD etc in addition to BBC Two HD.

To play the wish list game though i'd like to have the option of BBC One HD at 101 even in England. I want BBC Two HD asap and i'm fine with the loss of BBC HD (which has little content from the other channels named as it is) - the future is HD simulcasts. I agree that platform neutrality should be based on "all platforms if you can, those you can if you can't be on all". And i'd like access to all the BBC One HD channels as you suggest.
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Old 18-01-2013, 18:50
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...and as this is the Freeview forum i'd like more HD channels on Freeview, no seeping into pay TV, to get rid of the shopping and adult channels, and better bit rates so that the SD channels are better quality than some are at present.
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Old 18-01-2013, 19:29
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...and as this is the Freeview forum i'd like more HD channels on Freeview, no seeping into pay TV, to get rid of the shopping and adult channels, and better bit rates so that the SD channels are better quality than some are at present.
Good luck finding broadcasters willing to pay for that.
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Old 18-01-2013, 19:43
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Having read that I think the general consensus is that people want.

Access to All 4 HD BBC Ones
On Freeview? That's not going to happen.

The 3 nations to have them at 101 on the EPG
The 3 nations will each have their own HD version at 101, there won't be enough bandwidth on Freeview to carry the others.

BBC Two HD to come
but not at the expense but in addition to the retention of

BBC HD for 24hrs
so we get CBBC, CBeebies, BBC Three & BBC Four HD Content
BBC Two HD will replace BBC HD because the BBC have to make cuts at the moment. They have indicated that they would like to provide a further HD channel plus an interactive HD channel for the DVB-T2 promotional multiplexes but they won't be around before 2014.

HD iplayer content.
Already exists.

Red button on all platforms and the abolition of platform neutrality as it forces a hold up in progress due to the constraints of the weakest platform.
Red button is on all platforms. There hasn't really been total platform neutrality. There have been additional interactive streams available on satellite and cable because the bandwidth exists there to carry them. These additional streams have been axed as part of the BBC's budget cuts.
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Old 22-01-2013, 21:16
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7 days till launch.
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Old 23-01-2013, 07:28
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcone/programm..._hd/2013/01/29
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