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1080p wow, why didnt i do this sooner
Got my first HDTV about 5 years ago, a fairly nice Samsung 32inch 720p LCD, fairly good (though silly me should have shopped around a bit more could probably have got a 1080p for barely any more)
Well finally got myself a new one the other day, a 40inch samsung 3d 1080p led/lcd, oh wow I really didn't expect the difference in picture quality to be so huge, its stunning, really seems like a bigger leap over 720p than 720p was over sdtv, really feel like an idiot for not doing this sooner |
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sounds more like your 720p set was just crap. The difference should be noticable, with a decent source like blu-ray, but hardly startling.
Could be the bump in size that is making you notice the detail. Unless you treated yourself to a new pair of specs at the same time
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What have you got plugged into it?
Blu Ray, Sky HD, Virgin etc. I'm shocked by the number of people who buy a HD TV but still have SD equipment feeding it. |
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Got my first HDTV about 5 years ago, a fairly nice Samsung 32inch 720p LCD, fairly good (though silly me should have shopped around a bit more could probably have got a 1080p for barely any more)
Well finally got myself a new one the other day, a 40inch samsung 3d 1080p led/lcd, oh wow I really didn't expect the difference in picture quality to be so huge, its stunning, really seems like a bigger leap over 720p than 720p was over sdtv, really feel like an idiot for not doing this sooner I have a 5 year old Panasonic plasma '720p' set and a new 1080p 27 inch monitor, the latter is marvellous sat close up as I do, but I am equally at home watching my 720p plasma. It's not all about the spatial resolution. |
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What have you got plugged into it?
Blu Ray, Sky HD, Virgin etc. I'm shocked by the number of people who buy a HD TV but still have SD equipment feeding it. |
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sounds more like your 720p set was just crap. The difference should be noticable, with a decent source like blu-ray, but hardly startling.
Could be the bump in size that is making you notice the detail. Unless you treated yourself to a new pair of specs at the same time ![]() |
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i pretty sure skytv doesn't broadcast 1080p ....could be wrong
if u want a newer tv u best start saving now sonys new 4k resolution tv is a steal at $25,000 ...no one has bought one yet ...wonder why...surely not the price http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/sto...=S_4KTV#navTop |
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i pretty sure skytv doesn't broadcast 1080p ....could be wrong
if u want a newer tv u best start saving now sonys new 4k resolution tv is a steal at $25,000 ...no one has bought one yet ...wonder why...surely not the price http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/sto...=S_4KTV#navTop Don't think I'll bother with a 4k TV til they're under 600 squid, think I might be waiting a while |
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What have you got plugged into it?
Blu Ray, Sky HD, Virgin etc. I'm shocked by the number of people who buy a HD TV but still have SD equipment feeding it. |
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You are correct sky don't broadcast in 1080p, they broadcast in 1080i though so obviously it'll look a lot better (and to me it certainly does) on a 1080 screen, i do also have a blu ray player so i can finally see them in their full glory and wow
Unfortunately the far higher compression ratios used on broadcast HD (particularly by the BBC) mean the picture quality is only a fraction of what it could be (and was in the early days). As far as your set goes, if you're seeing any kind of massive difference from HD Ready (NOT 720P) to Full HD there's something seriously poor about your old TV. It might just be of course that you're comparing a really old set to a brand new one? - technology has moved on greatly in that time. |
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BBC have been experimenting with 1080p broadcasts on the BBC HD channel on Freeview for over a year, often even during the same programme. The last series of Top Gear had some segments that were in 1080p/50 for example..
But at normal viewing distances of 6-10 feet you'd be pretty hard pushed to notice the difference on standard sized TVs of 32 to 50 inches or thereabouts anyway. As Nigel says it's more likely the display technology has improved in that time. That's especially true with midrange/top end LCD sets. 4 or 5 years ago (even just 2/3years ago) pretty much no LCD sets could give a decent Plasma a run for the money in the picture quality stakes. To me LCD always looked ever so slightly flat and a bit cartoonish compared to a Plasma TV, even the top end LCD sets. However, today the difference isn't as marked and I've seen some LCD sets that I'd happily replace my Plasma with if it failed and I had to. Personally I still think Plasma has the edge, but there's aren't an awful lot to choose from these days and I guess it's only a matter of time before Plasma TVs disappear off the market entirely, especially with new technologies such as OLED appearing. |
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I am shocked that 13,000 people still have B&W TV licences!
I'm quite surprised...not shocked though. |
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BBC have been experimenting with 1080p broadcasts on the BBC HD channel on Freeview for over a year, often even during the same programme. The last series of Top Gear had some segments that were in 1080p/50 for example..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/researcha...bc-hd-on.shtml |
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As Nigel says it's more likely the display technology has improved in that time....
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I am shocked that 13,000 people still have B&W TV licences!
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But how do you know they ONLY have a b&w tv?
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The improvements people are seeing are mainly down to the huge improvements in LCD panels and picture proccessing used by the upmarket manufacturers over the last 5 years. Black levels and lag are very much improved making everything look much better SD as well as HD. Having said that, some older sets are quite good if carefully set up.
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I noticed a significant difference in quality when upgrading from a Samsung 720 to a Panasonic Viera 1080 a couple of years ago, but a lot of that was down to switching from LCD to Plasma.
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1080i and 1080P are both the exact same resolution -
Yes if the TV correctly identifies a progressive source and uses weave deinterlacing then they have the same resolution but otherwise not - in that circumstance it's effectively a progressive picture anyway. |
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If they are they are breaking the law, can you detect if someone is watching either a colour or B&W version of a tv channel in their household?
![]() But as long as you've only ever had a a B&W licence, and you've never been reported as purchasing something requiring a colour licence, then they won't be chasing you anyway. |
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[720p to 1080p] really seems like a bigger leap over 720p than 720p was over sdtv
I guess one might consider 720p "High" Definition if they were an American used to 480-line NTSC transmissions, but I'm not. ![]() Quote:
Not actually correct for a true interlaced source. By the time you've deinterlaced the resolution of 1080i will be less especially for a fast moving picture where it can be as low as half.
(*) The theoretical loss of quality being due to the fact that on fast-moving objects, if an object is drawn at one position for the even-numbered lines, by the time we're recording/displaying the odd-numbered lines required to form a "complete" full-resolution image (1/50 second later), the object will have moved to a new position and thus will never be rendered at full resolution in any given position. |
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In terms of ratio, it *is*... 576 lines to 720 lines was only a modest 25% better (in terms of vertical resolution), whereas going from 720 to 1080 is a 50% improvement.
I guess one might consider 720p "High" Definition if they were an American used to 480-line NTSC transmissions, but I'm not. ![]() . |
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In terms of ratio, it *is*... 576 lines to 720 lines was only a modest 25% better (in terms of vertical resolution), whereas going from 720 to 1080 is a 50% improvement.
As I've said many times, we have a Sony 'wall' at work of all their TV's - and while there aren't many HD Ready ones any more, it was never possible to pick out which ones were HD Ready and which ones were Full HD (all fed from the same HD source). It really makes VERY, VERY little difference for TV or BD viewing, but obviously does if you use it as a computer monitor. |
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In terms of ratio, it *is*... 576 lines to 720 lines was only a modest 25% better (in terms of vertical resolution)
Cheers, David. |
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720p50 delivers 46.08 megapixels in 1 second, 576i 10.36. (that's for the best 720 x 576, 544 x 576 is less)
That's a picture content increase of nearly 450%. |
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