extra speakers

markbsac · 13-01-2013, 10:13

hi guys i have a 32 samsung led i want to add more speakers without going to great expense looking to spend about £100..i dont just want it to go through a dvd player i want to turn the volume up on the tv and the extra speakers turn up at the same time...thanks in advance for your help

iangrad · 13-01-2013, 11:00

Best budget solution is to get a 2.1 computer speaker set that has a sub woofer and connect it via the TV's headphone socket . Hope TV at least has a headphone socket !
Something like this would be good for £50
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produc...er/9093245.htm

markbsac · 13-01-2013, 14:09

brilliant are you sure these will defo work as i have found them on amazon for 30.90p...my tv does have a headphone socket

chrisjr · 13-01-2013, 15:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by markbsac

brilliant are you sure these will defo work as i have found them on amazon for 30.90p...my tv does have a headphone socket

If you download the manual from here

http://www.logitech.com/repository/1.../27253.1.0.pdf

you'll see they have an integrated lead with a 3.5mm stereo jack plug on the end as the primary input. This would normally be plugged into a laptop or PC headphone/line out socket. But unless your TV has some extremely weird headphone socket unique to itself then they will also plug into the telly and work just the same.

markbsac · 13-01-2013, 15:37

thankyou for your help this looks a good option as the wife does not want speaker wires trailing all around the living room

markbsac · 14-01-2013, 07:18

not sure what my options are now as i dont have an earphone socket on my tv...great eh 2 year old tv and no headphone socket.my lad said i do have an optical socket though no idea what that entails or what it allows me to connect

iangrad · 14-01-2013, 08:15

OK I thought the headphone socket might be a problem as they tend to be only fitted to real bargain basement IE old design TV's or fitted to high spec TV's the stuff in the middle miss out .

Your options are (1) sound bar with sub woofer connected via the ARC HDMI socket or (2) Bluray all in one home cinema kit again connected via ARC or (3) find some other ( older design - but will still work OK ) kit that uses the optical feed .

Panasonic make some excellent sound bars and all but the cheapest use a wireless sub woofer .
Have a look round .

markbsac · 14-01-2013, 08:32

hi ian...would this be ok do you think..i dont want to spend hundreds

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Denver-DSB-1...bs_computers_1

chrisjr · 14-01-2013, 09:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by markbsac

hi ian...would this be ok do you think..i dont want to spend hundreds

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Denver-DSB-1...bs_computers_1

Not ideal for your use unfortunately. It has no digital audio input so you are in a similar situation as with the Logitech speakers linked to originally.

To get any noise out of that soundbar you would have to find an analogue output of some sort. If you are lucky the TV has a proper SCART socket that is fully wired with an output that you can use with a suitable adapter plug or lead.

However if it has one of those SCART on a lead things that some Samsungs have then you are stuffed if the only audio output is digital optical. You would have to spend another 30 quid or more on a digital to analogue converter. Or spend extra on a soundbar with optical digital inputs or, if the TV supports it, HDMI with Audio Return Channel.

A soundbar with optical digital in is this one...

http://www.richersounds.com/product/...2020/lg-nb2020

And it's cheaper than the Denver one from Amazon. Only problem is you have to go to one of their stores to get it at that price. But you may find a similar one on line if going to a store is not an option.

iangrad · 14-01-2013, 09:48

Problem with these budget sound bars is that they don't have a sub woofer and most are only a very small improvement on the original "thin" tv sound and there connectivity is only optical or analogue IE no support for ARC on the HDMI socket

OP has your TV got ARC on one of the HDMI sockets ? if so long term it may be better to get the real thing than to get 2 or 3 bits of junk over the next year !

markbsac · 14-01-2013, 13:00

i do have audio sockets at the rear of my tv

chrisjr · 14-01-2013, 13:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by markbsac

i do have audio sockets at the rear of my tv

But are the INPUT or OUTPUT sockets? There are likely to be one or more pairs of audio inputs but those are no good to you. What you want are a pair of output sockets if you want to connect a set of speakers up.

And analogue audio outs are becoming rare. It is more common to see digital audio outputs. And a digital output is only of use if you have a speaker set with a digital input. Otherwise you have to have additional boxes to convert the digital out to analogue.

It would help if you told us the model number of the TV as that would let us check exactly what your options are.

markbsac · 14-01-2013, 15:02

http://www.directtvs.co.uk/Samsung_U...XU/version.asp

there she is

chrisjr · 14-01-2013, 15:21

Hmmm

If I've got the right manual from Samsung

http://www.samsung.com/uk/support/mo...wnloadName=UM#

then the telly has a headphone socket on it. On the back just above the CI slot according to page 10. Apart from that the only other audio out might be the digital optical socket below the CI slot.

call100 · 14-01-2013, 15:32

I've read this thread 3 times now and I'm confused.....Why can't the headphone socket be used? According to the specs it has one. The OP is saying in one post it has and in another it hasn't!!

Edit....I see Chris is on it....

markbsac · 14-01-2013, 15:44

ill have a look again but i dont think my tv has a headphone socket there.even though that Manuel from samsung says it has...call100 i have never said there is a headphone socket but that i would have a look

chrisjr · 14-01-2013, 15:52

As I said in the manual it is on the side facing connector panel on the back of the set above where the HDMI sockets are and above the CI slot right at the top of the panel with a little headphone icon above it.

There is a similar socket at the bottom of that panel below the HDMI sockets that is used as an audio in if you have the TV connected to a PC via a DVI to HDMI lead. So don't get that confused with the headphones.

markbsac · 14-01-2013, 15:59

sorry guys i feel a right tit my son has just found it where you said it was....so sorry...i can now buy the orig ones you suggested..i feel an idiot:sleep:

chrisjr · 14-01-2013, 16:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by markbsac

sorry guys i feel a right tit my son has just found it where you said it was....so sorry...i can now buy the orig ones you suggested..i feel an idiot:sleep:

Just feel the left one and that will cancel it out

call100 · 14-01-2013, 18:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by markbsac

ill have a look again but i dont think my tv has a headphone socket there.even though that Manuel from samsung says it has...call100 i have never said there is a headphone socket but that i would have a look

I was going by this post....

Quote:

Originally Posted by markbsac

brilliant are you sure these will defo work as i have found them on amazon for 30.90p...my tv does have a headphone socket

Glad you have it sorted now....

markbsac · 15-01-2013, 10:39

now the only prob is with the laptop speakers that you reccomend i am unable to alter the volume via a remote so what would be the best option now ?

markbsac · 15-01-2013, 10:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by call100

I was going by this post....

Glad you have it sorted now....

gutted

chrisjr · 15-01-2013, 10:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by markbsac

now the only prob is with the laptop speakers that you reccomend i am unable to alter the volume via a remote so what would be the best option now ?

Dare one suggest RTFM??

I seem to recall seeing in there that it mentions the headphone volume is adjusted independently of the speaker volume.

markbsac · 15-01-2013, 10:56

think ive found the solution to be honest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni0DUGN6C78

markbsac · 15-01-2013, 11:07

http://www.microlab.cn/product_detai...mallclassid=73

13-01-2013, 10:13	#1
markbsac Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 16	extra speakers hi guys i have a 32 samsung led i want to add more speakers without going to great expense looking to spend about £100..i dont just want it to go through a dvd player i want to turn the volume up on the tv and the extra speakers turn up at the same time...thanks in advance for your help

13-01-2013, 11:00	#2
iangrad Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 772	Best budget solution is to get a 2.1 computer speaker set that has a sub woofer and connect it via the TV's headphone socket . Hope TV at least has a headphone socket ! Something like this would be good for £50 http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produc...er/9093245.htm

13-01-2013, 14:09	#3
markbsac Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 16	brilliant are you sure these will defo work as i have found them on amazon for 30.90p...my tv does have a headphone socket

13-01-2013, 15:05	#4
chrisjr Forum Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Reading Posts: 27,916	Quote: Originally Posted by markbsac brilliant are you sure these will defo work as i have found them on amazon for 30.90p...my tv does have a headphone socket If you download the manual from here http://www.logitech.com/repository/1.../27253.1.0.pdf you'll see they have an integrated lead with a 3.5mm stereo jack plug on the end as the primary input. This would normally be plugged into a laptop or PC headphone/line out socket. But unless your TV has some extremely weird headphone socket unique to itself then they will also plug into the telly and work just the same.

13-01-2013, 15:37	#5
markbsac Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 16	thankyou for your help this looks a good option as the wife does not want speaker wires trailing all around the living room

14-01-2013, 07:18	#6
markbsac Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 16	not sure what my options are now as i dont have an earphone socket on my tv...great eh 2 year old tv and no headphone socket.my lad said i do have an optical socket though no idea what that entails or what it allows me to connect

14-01-2013, 08:15	#7
iangrad Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 772	OK I thought the headphone socket might be a problem as they tend to be only fitted to real bargain basement IE old design TV's or fitted to high spec TV's the stuff in the middle miss out . Your options are (1) sound bar with sub woofer connected via the ARC HDMI socket or (2) Bluray all in one home cinema kit again connected via ARC or (3) find some other ( older design - but will still work OK ) kit that uses the optical feed . Panasonic make some excellent sound bars and all but the cheapest use a wireless sub woofer . Have a look round .

14-01-2013, 08:32	#8
markbsac Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 16	hi ian...would this be ok do you think..i dont want to spend hundreds http://www.amazon.co.uk/Denver-DSB-1...bs_computers_1

14-01-2013, 09:19	#9
chrisjr Forum Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Reading Posts: 27,916	Quote: Originally Posted by markbsac hi ian...would this be ok do you think..i dont want to spend hundreds http://www.amazon.co.uk/Denver-DSB-1...bs_computers_1 Not ideal for your use unfortunately. It has no digital audio input so you are in a similar situation as with the Logitech speakers linked to originally. To get any noise out of that soundbar you would have to find an analogue output of some sort. If you are lucky the TV has a proper SCART socket that is fully wired with an output that you can use with a suitable adapter plug or lead. However if it has one of those SCART on a lead things that some Samsungs have then you are stuffed if the only audio output is digital optical. You would have to spend another 30 quid or more on a digital to analogue converter. Or spend extra on a soundbar with optical digital inputs or, if the TV supports it, HDMI with Audio Return Channel. A soundbar with optical digital in is this one... http://www.richersounds.com/product/...2020/lg-nb2020 And it's cheaper than the Denver one from Amazon. Only problem is you have to go to one of their stores to get it at that price. But you may find a similar one on line if going to a store is not an option.

14-01-2013, 09:48	#10
iangrad Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 772	Problem with these budget sound bars is that they don't have a sub woofer and most are only a very small improvement on the original "thin" tv sound and there connectivity is only optical or analogue IE no support for ARC on the HDMI socket OP has your TV got ARC on one of the HDMI sockets ? if so long term it may be better to get the real thing than to get 2 or 3 bits of junk over the next year !

14-01-2013, 13:00	#11
markbsac Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 16	i do have audio sockets at the rear of my tv

14-01-2013, 13:11	#12
chrisjr Forum Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Reading Posts: 27,916	Quote: Originally Posted by markbsac i do have audio sockets at the rear of my tv But are the INPUT or OUTPUT sockets? There are likely to be one or more pairs of audio inputs but those are no good to you. What you want are a pair of output sockets if you want to connect a set of speakers up. And analogue audio outs are becoming rare. It is more common to see digital audio outputs. And a digital output is only of use if you have a speaker set with a digital input. Otherwise you have to have additional boxes to convert the digital out to analogue. It would help if you told us the model number of the TV as that would let us check exactly what your options are.

14-01-2013, 15:02	#13
markbsac Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 16	http://www.directtvs.co.uk/Samsung_U...XU/version.asp there she is

14-01-2013, 15:21	#14
chrisjr Forum Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Reading Posts: 27,916	Hmmm If I've got the right manual from Samsung http://www.samsung.com/uk/support/mo...wnloadName=UM# then the telly has a headphone socket on it. On the back just above the CI slot according to page 10. Apart from that the only other audio out might be the digital optical socket below the CI slot.

14-01-2013, 15:32	#15
call100 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 6,572	I've read this thread 3 times now and I'm confused.....Why can't the headphone socket be used? According to the specs it has one. The OP is saying in one post it has and in another it hasn't!! Edit....I see Chris is on it....

14-01-2013, 15:44	#16
markbsac Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 16	ill have a look again but i dont think my tv has a headphone socket there.even though that Manuel from samsung says it has...call100 i have never said there is a headphone socket but that i would have a look

14-01-2013, 15:52	#17
chrisjr Forum Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Reading Posts: 27,916	As I said in the manual it is on the side facing connector panel on the back of the set above where the HDMI sockets are and above the CI slot right at the top of the panel with a little headphone icon above it. There is a similar socket at the bottom of that panel below the HDMI sockets that is used as an audio in if you have the TV connected to a PC via a DVI to HDMI lead. So don't get that confused with the headphones.

14-01-2013, 15:59	#18
markbsac Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 16	sorry guys i feel a right tit my son has just found it where you said it was....so sorry...i can now buy the orig ones you suggested..i feel an idiot:sleep:

14-01-2013, 16:04	#19
chrisjr Forum Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Reading Posts: 27,916	Quote: Originally Posted by markbsac sorry guys i feel a right tit my son has just found it where you said it was....so sorry...i can now buy the orig ones you suggested..i feel an idiot:sleep: Just feel the left one and that will cancel it out

14-01-2013, 18:08	#20
call100 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 6,572	Quote: Originally Posted by markbsac ill have a look again but i dont think my tv has a headphone socket there.even though that Manuel from samsung says it has...call100 i have never said there is a headphone socket but that i would have a look I was going by this post.... Quote: Originally Posted by markbsac brilliant are you sure these will defo work as i have found them on amazon for 30.90p...my tv does have a headphone socket Glad you have it sorted now....

15-01-2013, 10:39	#21
markbsac Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 16	now the only prob is with the laptop speakers that you reccomend i am unable to alter the volume via a remote so what would be the best option now ?

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15-01-2013, 10:40	#22
markbsac Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 16	Quote: Originally Posted by call100 I was going by this post.... Glad you have it sorted now.... gutted

15-01-2013, 10:51	#23
chrisjr Forum Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Reading Posts: 27,916	Quote: Originally Posted by markbsac now the only prob is with the laptop speakers that you reccomend i am unable to alter the volume via a remote so what would be the best option now ? Dare one suggest RTFM?? I seem to recall seeing in there that it mentions the headphone volume is adjusted independently of the speaker volume.

15-01-2013, 10:56	#24
markbsac Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 16	think ive found the solution to be honest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni0DUGN6C78

15-01-2013, 11:07	#25
markbsac Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 16	http://www.microlab.cn/product_detai...mallclassid=73