Indeed. Samsung will NEVER ditch Android which is the leading mobile OS and which has brought them a shit load of cash!

Yep, I also had that on my Nexus 4, Bloody awful and was 1 of the reasons I got rid of it so quickly.

The Samsung S3 set the bar so high it makes the Nexus 4 look like a budget £100 handset.(Just ashame the S3 is so big)

Don't say 'Never'

Its no bigger than the N4

Oh sorry it is. By 3mm

Also, no one else ive spoken to who have N4's have had that issue. And to add, even the author of that video says hes the only who has it! Its not normal at all!

Well I'm afraid even when in the CPW on the weekend they had a demo N4 and the woman using it was pointing out to her husband/partner/male friend just how jerky it was.
The guy from CPW was telling them its going to be fixed with a software update. So it must be a known issue.

there's a coincidence

The guy from the CPW was as they always do, talking pish.

Its not a known issue at all. Look i'm not defending the phone as the more i use it, the more i dislike it with the camera issues im having but, this isn't a known issue at all an no one else seems to be having it. XDA forums show nothing to do with this as well and if it was an issue that would be the first place it crops up.

There is a software update coming which is only to fix the wakelock issues from qualcomm, nothing else. I've used a grand total of 6 of these devices since its came out and not 1 exhibited that problem.

no phone is lag free all the time. Anyone who says theirs is is being plain silly

if you google 'iphone 5 lag problem' you will find that even the mighty Apple suffer from this.

Android (as a general comment) will require more processing power than iOS as it tends to be doing more 'work' concurrently. Live wallpapers (gimmick) and widgets for starters require constant 'running' and Android has more open multi-tasking. Apple have the luxury of being able to match their OS to their hardware and so should be 'better' at reducing lag ..... but they havent eliminated it.

My phone lags occasionally ... its a Galaxy Nexus so its 'last years tech' running this years OS. Does a momentary lag once in a while cause me concern ?? really it doesnt .....

When people are aguing over fractions of seconds it really starts to seem a little silly doesnt it .....

There is an element of truth in that.

My Nexus 7 is a few percentage points faster than my old Advent Vega in browser tests, purely down to the fact that the browser can't (or doesn't) make use of the multiple cores. 1.3gHz in the Nexus7 vs 1.2gHz in the Vega.

But anyone who suggests that going for a quad core automatically makes something faster than a dual core is ... not understanding the problem.

It just goes to show that phones are now so equally matched all that's left to argue over is fraction of a second screen lag, or the size of the on screen keyboard, or even how fast you can type a sentence.


Now price is a major deciding factor in which phone you get as they're all pretty much equal now. This is something Apple will need to understand and fast...

Price isn't an issue. Apple are doing pretty darned nicely with all their products priced as they are. Apple have rarely sold on specs (ie. being cutting edge), they've sold an experience.

Yes, personally I prefer my Android devices over my iPhone, but I can easily see how someone else could prefer their iPhone over a SGS3 or vice versa.

Just depends what flavour you like these days.

I think until you have exactly the same OS doing exactly the same function then you can't really compare how fast 2 phones are.

You are more likely to compare more fairly 2 Android OS phones than an Android with a Windows or iOS.

Also depends if you have anything running in the background with Android (as it's true multi tasking) or any widgets etc.

I have no idea what cores do. My phone is dual core, what does that mean? It's lightening fast and never slows down even if I'm running a number of apps at once.

Can someone explain in laymans terms what a core is and why more is better?

Cores refer to the number of main processors that your phone has. With the processor basically being the brain on your phone and controls everything on the phone and how quickly it runs.

Generally the more cores/processors/brains you have the quicker the phone will run...it's not always guaranteed though as software needs to be able to work with more than one core at a time.

Number of cores = number of threads of control that can run really in parallel. In a typical OS you can have several processes (= programmes, applications, apps) running "at the same time" each of them having one or more threads of control. Depending on number of available processors/cores an OS plans their execution. Usually there's not enough cores to run them all at the same time, so OS switches between them periodically using available cores and executes them piece by piece. You can do this with one core, too, at any given moment only one thread running. More cores means in theory that the processes will run faster, but that's usually not so simple, because processes use resources they share and must wait for each other. So 8 cores does not mean 8 times faster, maybe 3-4 times, it all depends on the applications running, if there's enough parallelism there to take advantage of all cores at all. And usually there's not, because writing multithreaded applications isn't a rocket science, but it needs an understanding of special "parallel" problems to deal with. And the necessary waiting of threads for each other may result into a degenerated performance anyway. Or simply there's just not enough parallelism in an application to use.

In this case it looks like they want to switch between 2 4-core processors, one low performance low power consumption when the system is idle, doing "nothing" with only a couple of background tasks that do not need to execute fast. And when user wakes up the phone and high performance is needed, the other processor, more performant and thus with higher power consumption, takes over. But overall,the power consumption is lower.

Although from what I see around me, people keep doing something to their phones constantly, so they may not give the low performance cores chance to work anyway