It's aApples fault it's being out sold, a free S3 is under £30. A free iPhone 5 is around £45 a month.

Sell the iPhone 5 free on £25 a month contract with £180 cash back they wouldn't be able to make enough. That's samsungs model, pay the consumer to take your devices.


Apple are going to have to forget super high $1 billion a month profits. Samsung have 1.5billion debt, apple have a $100 billion cash mountain and zero debt.

Whilst Apple have enough cash not too be worried I would say that Tim Cook and anyone at the top may have want to worry about their jobs! Shareholders have a habit of ousting under performing management.

You talk some tosh I have to say, share price is not important to a company

To quote The Simpsons: "You've gone from hip to boring. Why don't you call us when you get to kitsch."

Why would it matter which brand sold the most ?
I switched to purchasing Apple kit when they were a tiny part of the tech market.

When I purchased the first i phone a couple of months after release everyone said "why have you got one of those you could have got a SE/ Nokia etc " Now virtually all my friends/contacts have got a i phone ( the other 1% have a i pod touch ).

Although it is said that a lot of Android devices are out their the evidence is that a large percentage of these are used as " dumb phones "

What has the cash position of the manufacturer to do with anything? It's like you're saying your dad's harder than my dad.

Can you clarify what you mean by samsumg's business model is to pay the consumer to take the device?

It's like the most important thing. Shareholders are the owners. Businesses only exist to make money for their owners. It is literally the only reason they exist.

Apple's initial order of 65 million iPhone 5 screens for the first quarter of 2013 has been halved to what we assume must be about 32.5 million, reports the Nikkei. The order for the displays is split between three manufacturers: Sharp, LG Display and Japan Display. Orders for other components have been cut too.

The reduction from buying 21.5 million screens a month to 10.8 million is a big one, and suggests not only a big fall in expectations but a slight fall in iPhone sales from last year. This isn't something Apple wants to see when competition in the smartphone market is so fierce.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/01..._order_halved/

100% of your friends and contacts have an iPhone or iPod touch? Really?

>Although it is said that a lot of Android devices are out their the evidence is that a large percentage of these are used as " dumb phones "

Care to share that evidence? It's funny the way you say 'it is said' as if you think that part might not be true.

Why do you think it matters to a company


This according to the word of apple is it

Coming from you, I can't disagree. If there is one person that knows what tosh is, it's you.

I said share price, not share holders

Have apple cut the dividend? That is how investors make money, not on short (or in this case very short) share price speculation.

Its probably the most 'dumb' thing i have ever read!

Yeah that is how the share holders make their money.

No it isn't. Do you actually own any shares?

http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answ...#ixzz2HyeNQuwk

So like I said share price is very important.

Loads. I also used to be a trader for leveraged equity derivative products. Amongst other things.

Your suggestion that share price is not important is nonsense. And you know it.

Investopedia, oh please.


If that is true I'm surprised. You would buy shares on the hope you would make money on the speculative price of the shares?

I buy shares on the financial strength of the company and the dividend payment history. I obviously have a longer term view than you.

Looking at some of the comments/claims made on here by Apple fans I now know how they do so well as a company. Shakes head.

So divi is more important than share price. I see. For most people it's the total money. They have no preference for whether they make it one way or the other.

kidspud you said share price wasn't important. You were simply wrong.

That is not what I said (you can look at my posts), and I'm very happy with my share dealings.

How you ever got anyone to buy shares I don't know.

Link? First I've heard they have sold 49 million I phone 5's.

You know how to google don't you? "Apple sell 49 million iPhone 5 in December 2012" google that and see what comes up.

They sold 2 million within 24 hours on launch.

You think that is what an equity derivatives trader does?

No, and on that basis I have no reason to think your knowledge of share trading is any better than mine.