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Old 15-01-2013, 22:29
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Just watched some of his routines on youtube he was excellent.
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Old 15-01-2013, 22:33
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Suzanne had a great final - superior to Chris.
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Old 15-01-2013, 22:39
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She did have a good final.

Always thought Chris was technically the best skater but was too flashy. Always trying to do difficult tricks and the like. Suzanne danced better, didn't try too much and looked better as a result.
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Old 15-01-2013, 22:49
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Yes, she just pipped him at the post on the final night when it really counted. He was phenomenal over that series, but she deserved that win.
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Old 15-01-2013, 22:55
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Suzanne had a great final - superior to Chris.
It was always close and I think she may have moved ahead before the final. She was probably a better dancer and actor, and had a lot of wow factor moves She had one of the best routines ever and was able to perform it well and was able to add difficulty and impact to it for the final. She did enough solo skating to avoid that argument, and didn't fall into the usual issues for females with the votes.Chris also came from Channel 4 - and not Emmerdale or Corrie, while Suzanne had been on ITV before, so she didn't get steamrolered by ITV voters voting for their own show stars.
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Old 15-01-2013, 23:07
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It was always close and I think she may have moved ahead before the final. She was probably a better dancer and actor, and had a lot of wow factor moves She had one of the best routines ever and was able to perform it well and was able to add difficulty and impact to it for the final. She did enough solo skating to avoid that argument, and didn't fall into the usual issues for females with the votes.Chris also came from Channel 4 - and not Emmerdale or Corrie, while Suzanne had been on ITV before, so she didn't get steamrolered by ITV voters voting for their own show stars.
A good example though to disprove the theory that an attractive woman cant beat a man in this type of programme.

In truth there wasn't much between them and either would have been deserved winners.
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Old 15-01-2013, 23:15
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Just watched some of his routines on youtube he was excellent.
Yes he was, but Suzanne Shaw was just....better
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Old 15-01-2013, 23:22
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The flyng to Time to say goodbye probably clinched it for Suzanne. Women have an advantage yes in the flying but that really was magical. I remember watching it. Only Ray Quinn's Bolero has had the same impact on me since.
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Old 15-01-2013, 23:31
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Suzanne did better in the final. Plus, there was always a problem with the connection between Frankie and Chris - they barely looked each other in the eyes while skating during the entire series. That didn't help with the Bolero, which is a very emotional piece. Suzanne just had a perfect night that night. Although to be fair, they were both very good. Probably equally so, just with different strengths and weaknesses. Chris was technically better and Suzanne's performance skills were better.
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Old 16-01-2013, 00:04
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Suzanne was better in the final and as memmh said Chris and Frankie didn't have a strong connection especially compared to Matt and Suzanne. However I think he could have won with Brianne because when they tour as a pair they had a connection which could be seen in the red routine or their bolero and that is what Chris and Frankie lacked; they were amazing in the fast uptempo numbers but needed a stronger connection in slow paced routine.
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Old 16-01-2013, 00:05
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Suzanne did better in the final. Plus, there was always a problem with the connection between Frankie and Chris - they barely looked each other in the eyes while skating during the entire series. That didn't help with the Bolero, which is a very emotional piece. Suzanne just had a perfect night that night. Although to be fair, they were both very good. Probably equally so, just with different strengths and weaknesses. Chris was technically better and Suzanne's performance skills were better.
Agreed.

Chris seemed to get egged on to try the more ambitious jumps ans skills and this distracted from his overall performance even if he was successful.

Maybe if he had a different partner she would have concentrated a bit more in the performance and he would have stood a better chance. I think Frankie kind of went with it.
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Old 16-01-2013, 00:08
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It was an excellent final anyway. Arguably the best one in terms of competition that DOI's had.
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Old 16-01-2013, 00:14
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It was an excellent final anyway. Arguably the best one in terms of competition that DOI's had.
I think they were the closest 2 in overall ability.

Although I don't like the performance judges they demonstrated the different aspects. Chris the better skater, Suzanne the better dancer/performer. Suzanne's overall package was slightly superior and she was a deserved winner but I felt a little sorry for Chris because I felt that was the direction he was pushed in.
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Old 16-01-2013, 05:54
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It was a brilliant final, but it was another series where you knew who the finalists were from Week 1 as both of them were so good.

On the whole I preferred Suzanne's routines, to me Chris' concentrated more on the fact that he could skate solo very fast (he played ice hockey before the show), and IMHO most of his routines seemed to involve him chasing Frankie round the rink at great speed - but I loved the Time Warp! He also seemed a tad cocky/big headed at times with some aspects....doing an overly complicated jump smacked more of a desire to show off, especially as he messed it up...

That said - Suzanne pulled it out of the bag on the night it mattered...... Her skating was flawless, and the flying routine simply magical.....
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Old 16-01-2013, 09:29
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Its funny how everyone hated Denise Van Outen on Strictly for supposedly having dance experience, even though it wasn't ballroom or latin dance experience but yet nobody seemed to dislike Chris Fountain despite having experience of ice skating even though it wasn't figure skating

Suzanne pulled it out the bag on the night. That was a great final. That was when DOI was really at its peak
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Old 16-01-2013, 11:29
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It was a brilliant final, but it was another series where you knew who the finalists were from Week 1 as both of them were so good.
And yet it wasn't entirely predictable. There were four people who could have been finalists - Zaraah, Gareth, Chris and Suzanne. Chris and Suzanne were always predictable as finalists but it wasn't obvious which of the two would win. In some other series, there's been one person so far ahead that it was obvious not only who the finalists would be but also who would actually win. Ray Quinn, for example. He wasn't my "favourite" that year but he was undoubtedly the best and deserved to win. It would have been interesting if Ray had been in the same series as Suzanne and Chris: I think he would have had more of a challenge for the title in that case.

What interested me was what would have happened if Gareth were in the final instead of Zaraah. Admittedly, once Zaraah was put through to the final it was obvious who the two who would do Bolero would be, as she was in the skate off for about the 4th time at that point, so obviously didn't have public support. Gareth, however, was in the skate off for the first time in the semi-final and that only because out of 4 contestants still remaining, two of them had to be in the skate off. So I wonder if he'd been in the final, if that might have affected who ended up doing the Bolero.

On the whole I preferred Suzanne's routines, to me Chris' concentrated more on the fact that he could skate solo very fast (he played ice hockey before the show), and IMHO most of his routines seemed to involve him chasing Frankie round the rink at great speed - but I loved the Time Warp! He also seemed a tad cocky/big headed at times with some aspects....doing an overly complicated jump smacked more of a desire to show off, especially as he messed it up...
Suzanne was better in the final and as memmh said Chris and Frankie didn't have a strong connection especially compared to Matt and Suzanne. However I think he could have won with Brianne because when they tour as a pair they had a connection which could be seen in the red routine or their bolero and that is what Chris and Frankie lacked; they were amazing in the fast uptempo numbers but needed a stronger connection in slow paced routine.
Agreed. Chris and Frankie weren't in time with each other for a lot of his routines. At that point, there was no finesse to his skating. I thought they were great with Time Warp, partly because it was a routine where connection didn't matter and partly because they just went out and enjoyed themselves with the routine.

Chris' performance skills have improved a lot since he first did DOI, though. Admittedly it's been a couple of years since I've had a chance to see him skate but I now enjoy watching Chris, which I didn't particularly at first, mainly because of the lack of his connection with Frankie. I much preferred Chris' partnership with Brianne; watching those two skate together on tour was great - all the pieces fell into place with that partnership.

I think they were the closest 2 in overall ability.
I don't know - I think that Matthew Wolfenden and Jorgie Porter last year were also pretty close in overall ability. It definitely makes for a better series and competition when there are two or three contestants of similar ability, like Chris and Suzanne or Matthew and Jorgie, rather than when one contestant is far better than any of the others.
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Old 16-01-2013, 12:11
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It was one of those nights were every single thing came right for one person and that was Suzanne. Had she faltered in any way even in one routine it could have been a different result, but she was utterly flawless throughout the entire show and on the night she wholeheartedly deserved to take the prize. Chris was great but he gave off an air of knowing it and thats not attractive ! He seemed a tad cocky and his face fell when Suzanne's name was called.

Suzanne on the other hand never showed any such traits, and seemed to thoroughly enjoy every moment on the ice.

The great friendship she developed with Matt also very much aided the chemistry issue. She was out there dancing with her best bud unlike Chris and Frankie who did not generate the same rapport at all.

Series 3 was DOI at its absolute peak. No series has come close to it, and to me it is in at end game stage now. Can't see it lasting much longer.
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Old 16-01-2013, 19:55
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I was team Chris all the way, but Suzanne bested him on the final. He went off the boil and she pulled it out of the bag
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Old 16-01-2013, 20:47
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I agree that that was the series I was engaged in most. The standard was good but it also had a freshness and vibrancy. I loved Ray and Maria but sadly I think DOI has passed it's peak.
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Old 16-01-2013, 21:12
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Its funny how everyone hated Denise Van Outen on Strictly for supposedly having dance experience, even though it wasn't ballroom or latin dance experience but yet nobody seemed to dislike Chris Fountain despite having experience of ice skating even though it wasn't figure skating

Suzanne pulled it out the bag on the night. That was a great final. That was when DOI was really at its peak
I disagree - I do think it had an impact.

I loved Chris, he was so exciting to watch but I really liked Suzanne too & she did perform great in the final so she was a deserving winner.
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Old 16-01-2013, 22:38
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I don't think it helped Chris' cause that Jason ALWAYS had to find a fault and knock 0.5 off him when he deserved 6's. If he couldn't find anything else he said there was a lack of connection.
Suzanne had Matt, the headbanger is less of a show stopper these days but in series 3 it was still exiciting to watch. I did get quite sick of the 'I'm a single mother/ I don't see enough of my son because of the show' sob story though, so are a lot of people in less privileged positions, get over it.
Chris let nerves get to him at the final, but having seen him on the tour a few years back partnered with Brianne, he has only improved and looked like quite the pro out there.
Coming 2nd has no shame in it but other series he'd have been the out and out winner.
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Old 16-01-2013, 23:49
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Everyone at some time in their lives hits a purple patch - it might last an hour or it might last a day. It could be anything from an Olympic event to sitting an exam - an interview for a much coveted job to an audition for a desperately wanted role in film, the theatre or on tv. It's a special moment - a magical moment, as fragile as gossamer, when everything comes together for one brief period of time.

Thus it was for Suzanne - she hit her purple patch and held the viewers spellbound. Chris Fountain didn't stand a chance - there could only be one winner.

I wonder if she looks back on that night and wishes she could have grasped that fleeting, perfect moment and frozen it in time.

imo Ray Quinn was the best ever DOI contestant - but Suzanne was the most memorable - thanks in no small part to Nicky Slater.
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Old 16-01-2013, 23:55
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I don't think it helped Chris' cause that Jason ALWAYS had to find a fault and knock 0.5 off him when he deserved 6's. If he couldn't find anything else he said there was a lack of connection.
Suzanne had Matt, the headbanger is less of a show stopper these days but in series 3 it was still exiciting to watch. I did get quite sick of the 'I'm a single mother/ I don't see enough of my son because of the show' sob story though, so are a lot of people in less privileged positions, get over it.
Chris let nerves get to him at the final, but having seen him on the tour a few years back partnered with Brianne, he has only improved and looked like quite the pro out there.
Coming 2nd has no shame in it but other series he'd have been the out and out winner.
If you can show me a single routine where he was actually in time with Frankie for more than half of it (or more than a quarter of it) I'll agree that Chris deserved sixes, but... go and watch them. It's a mess. His skills were good, for a solo speed skater, but he didn't have a clue how to stay in time.
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Old 17-01-2013, 00:05
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If you can show me a single routine where he was actually in time with Frankie for more than half of it (or more than a quarter of it) I'll agree that Chris deserved sixes, but... go and watch them. It's a mess. His skills were good, for a solo speed skater, but he didn't have a clue how to stay in time.
Because the scores are always so reflective of that?
Personally I enjoyed Chris' routines, it didn't bother me if they were a out of time, not that I'd noticed anyway tbh. Nicky, Karen and Robin all though he did enough to get 6's.
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Old 17-01-2013, 00:22
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I don't think it helped Chris' cause that Jason ALWAYS had to find a fault and knock 0.5 off him when he deserved 6's. If he couldn't find anything else he said there was a lack of connection.
Suzanne had Matt, the headbanger is less of a show stopper these days but in series 3 it was still exiciting to watch. I did get quite sick of the 'I'm a single mother/ I don't see enough of my son because of the show' sob story though, so are a lot of people in less privileged positions, get over it.
Chris let nerves get to him at the final, but having seen him on the tour a few years back partnered with Brianne, he has only improved and looked like quite the pro out there.
Coming 2nd has no shame in it but other series he'd have been the out and out winner.
There WAS a lack of connection between Chris and Frankie, that was a big part of the problem. I agree that Chris has improved enormously and his partnership with Brianne was great but back in series 3, his skating lacked precision, his timing was off more often than not and his presentation skills were also lacking. Suzanne wasn't as good as Chris to begin with but she caught up by the end of the series and had a perfect night in the final, which is why she won and not Chris.
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