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Old 16-01-2013, 16:22
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Hey I want to know why do alot of the fans complain about Eastenders? So what if its going through a bad patch and if the writing in episodes is not good its not the end of the world no one is going to die now. If any of you were Eastenders Executive Producer and fans were complaining of your work on here how would any of you feel? At lease Eastenders have got really good actors and actress and even though people complain about the Brannings alot of the actors/actresses like Jo Joyner, Jake Wood, Lorna Fitzgerald, Lindsey Coulson, Patsy Palmer, Ann Mitchell and sometimes Jacqueline Jossa are good at acting. And so what if the Branning's are taking over its not the end of the world and no one is going to die.
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Old 16-01-2013, 16:24
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I would only complain if EastEnders get the axe.
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Old 16-01-2013, 16:26
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I would only complain if EastEnders get the axe.
I would complain about that as well.
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Old 16-01-2013, 16:26
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I think its good in some ways that people complain as it shows their passion for the show but then when it gets scaled way out of control like the baby swap, then that's just going too far and discrediting the hard work of actors eg. Samantha Womack as well as production team eg. Deidrick Santer (exec producer) and that's not fair.
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Old 16-01-2013, 16:28
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I don't think there are many complaints about the acting with the exception of the odd few actors on the show. It's the writing, the storylines, bad continuity, the dominance of the Brannings.....the show is dire right now. I am a long term viewer, even when its bad I watch it out of habit, but its been bad for too long now and there doesn't seem to be any light at the end of the tunnel. That's why people are complaining.
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Old 16-01-2013, 16:30
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Fans complain because it is low standard. In the past Eastenders has reached tremendous heights in the terms of quality, but it seems that at the moment all we are getting is repetitive plots.

The same characters are being overused while other characters are just fading in the background.

Then there is the whole continuity debacle, the current team have no understanding of the shows history and they expect us to forget what has happened in the past and to swallow contrived plot aspects, such as the Brannings and Moons being good chums thirty odd years ago even though Jim and Alfie had known each other for years and they had made no mention that they knew people in common!

It's because we know that the show can deliver us a better quality program than they are currently doing, as consumers we expect a lot more for our money. EE is supposed to be the BEEBs flagship show in regards to drama, but you wouldn't think it at the moment.

And if EE was a brand new show and delivered these plots and these characters to us, it wouldn't last five minutes. It is only surviving by it's history at the moment.

If Adam, Steve, June, Letitia and Charlie B all walked out for good the show would crumble straight away and a soap should not be reliant on just a handful of cast members.
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Old 16-01-2013, 16:30
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People complain for many reasons, some who have been long term viewers and know the show can do better, some for the sake of it, I guess it depends what you like, every opinion is different, DS is in no way the whole picture of how the viewers feel but I think it gives a idea.

I think the general consensus is that the show has become to centered on the Brannings at the neglect at other characters who are as just as equally good and are not being use to their full worth, writing can bee seen as lazy and repetitive we seen several storylines being repeated for characters over the last year or so, but at the end of the day people want a watchable show with interesting plots and can that be said at the moment I'm not sure.
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Old 16-01-2013, 16:32
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I don't think there are many complaints about the acting with the exception of the odd few actors on the show. It's the writing, the storylines, bad continuity, the dominance of the Brannings.....the show is dire right now. I am a long term viewer, even when its bad I watch it out of habit, but its been bad for too long now and there doesn't seem to be any light at the end of the tunnel. That's why people are complaining.
Sorry I thought the OP was talking about extreme levels of complaining such as the recent Lola storyline, rather than general complaints.

Well to be honest, with millions of viewers watching every night, you can't make everyone happy no matter how hard you try, so there's bound to be a few moans and groans here and there
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Old 16-01-2013, 16:35
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Fans complain because it is low standard. In the past Eastenders has reached tremendous heights in the terms of quality, but it seems that at the moment all we are getting is repetitive plots.

The same characters are being overused while other characters are just fading in the background.

Then there is the whole continuity debacle, the current team have no understanding of the shows history and they expect us to forget what has happened in the past and to swallow contrived plot aspects, such as the Brannings and Moons being good chums thirty odd years ago even though Jim and Alfie had known each other for years and they had made no mention that they knew people in common!

It's because we know that the show can deliver us a better quality program than they are currently doing, as consumers we expect a lot more for our money. EE is supposed to be the BEEBs flagship show in regards to drama, but you wouldn't think it at the moment.

And if EE was a brand new show and delivered these plots and these characters to us, it wouldn't last five minutes. It is only surviving by it's history at the moment.

If Adam, Steve, June, Letitia and Charlie B all walked out for good the show would crumble straight away and a soap should not be reliant on just a handful of cast members.
As much as I ADORE these characters, I don't think they are the all the show has to offer. I personally don't think Ian, Phil and Sharon are characters we can't live without as all three have become somewhat tiresome. Meanwhile, June Brown and Charlie Brooks recently took breaks from the show and it survived during that period.

I think if big cast members leave, there'll always be someone on the way who will wave the flag for EastEnders so it would really 'crumble'.

Nobody is bigger than the show. I realised this after Lacey Turner left.
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Old 16-01-2013, 16:38
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Hey I want to know why do alot of the fans complain about Eastenders? So what if its going through a bad patch and if the writing in episodes is not good its not the end of the world no one is going to die now. If any of you were Eastenders Executive Producer and fans were complaining of your work on here how would any of you feel? At lease Eastenders have got really good actors and actress and even though people complain about the Brannings alot of the actors/actresses like Jo Joyner, Jake Wood, Lorna Fitzgerald, Lindsey Coulson, Patsy Palmer, Ann Mitchell and sometimes Jacqueline Jossa are good at acting. And so what if the Branning's are taking over its not the end of the world and no one is going to die.

I think everyone is entitled to an opinion, the right to express their opinion, freedom of speech, even you, that is why I am not going to criticise you for having one of your own. In TV your number one priority is your audience, if your fans that have been tuning in for years think your work is poor and those fans are in considerable numbers you have a problem. No it may not be the end of the world but it is a problem for Lorraine Newman. Bryan Kirkwood caused considerable damage to EE and LN has a huge amount to fix and maybe just maybe she not experienced enough for the job. I am not saying am I right, I simply expressing my opinion.

It's not enough to have one or two major successful episodes a year.
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Old 16-01-2013, 16:40
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Does anyone think Coronation Street repeat storylines and Emmerdale? Well when all storylines have been done what is there left to do then have no storylines? I don't think it matters much if there are too many Branning's did people complain about the Branning's in 2006 and 2007 when Max, Tanya, Lauren, Abi, Bradley, Jack, Jim, Dot and Stacey were in the show?
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Old 16-01-2013, 16:42
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As much as I ADORE these characters, I don't think they are the all the show has to offer. I personally don't think Ian, Phil and Sharon are characters we can't live without as all three have become somewhat tiresome. Meanwhile, June Brown and Charlie Brooks recently took breaks from the show and it survived during that period.

I think if big cast members leave, there'll always be someone on the way who will wave the flag for EastEnders so it would really 'crumble'.

Nobody is bigger than the show. I realised this after Lacey Turner left.
If all 5 left then yes it would, there are some good actors left, Jake, Jo and Nitin spring to mind but the characters are so poorly written for that they only really mix with their families.

You can pick up Dot, Ian and Phil and throw them with any other character and it works. You could do the same with Pat.

But you couldn't do that with Vanessa for instance, thats why she had to go. Same is happening with Shirley, they are clutching at straws by giving her connections so that they can convincingly have her stay in the show.
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Old 16-01-2013, 16:42
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I think everyone is entitled to an opinion, the right to express their opinion, freedom of speech, even you, that is why I am not going to criticise you for having one of your own. In TV your number one priority is your audience, if your fans that have been tuning in for years think your work is poor and those fans are in considerable numbers you have a problem. No it may not be the end of the world but it is a problem for Lorraine Newman. Bryan Kirkwood caused considerable damage to EE and LN has a huge amount to fix and maybe just maybe she not experienced enough for the job. I am not saying am I right, I simply expressing my opinion.

It's not enough to have one or two major successful episodes a year.
I think we should see how things go until the 30th Anniversary in 2 years time the show might be really good then or it might not.
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Old 16-01-2013, 16:45
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Does anyone think Coronation Street repeat storylines and Emmerdale? Well when all storylines have been done what is there left to do then have no storylines? I don't think it matters much if there are too many Branning's did people complain about the Branning's in 2006 and 2007 when Max, Tanya, Lauren, Abi, Bradley, Jack, Jim, Dot and Stacey were in the show?
It's not just about having to many Branning characters its the amount of time screen they have.
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Old 16-01-2013, 16:46
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I think we should see how things go until the 30th Anniversary in 2 years time the show might be really good then or it might not.
I think EE needs to get some people with good solid experience in.
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Old 16-01-2013, 16:54
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Thing is people will complain about TV shows no matter what happens or how good it is.
Moaning about something is a completely natural British trait. You cant please everyone no matter who is in charge .

Im a Proud Armchair Critic
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Old 16-01-2013, 17:01
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It's too early for me to judge Lorraine Newman, so must give her a chance first.
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Old 16-01-2013, 17:12
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The show wouldn't crumble if Sharon and Janine left. Sharon has made no impact this time around and I've not missed Janine one bit, her character is very repetative, I'd prefer Michael to be on his own.
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Old 16-01-2013, 17:18
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Some of us are not happy to accept mediocre rubbish in a soap we've invested 25/26 years in & as those of us in that category are probably the ones paying the TV stealth tax we have every right to moan about substandard rubbish being churned out even if you don't agree.
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Old 16-01-2013, 17:19
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Sharon has made no lmpact because the writers have dumped her into the Brannings and the whole boring Phil/Lola/Lexi storyline...

EastEnders is not good at the moment because the writing is poor, there are too many pointless and disjointed characters, stories are poorly written and not followed through and concluded.

Poor actors also can't carry poor writing while the better actors can work with but don't deserve poor writing.

It actually makes me mad as a aspiring writer who would love to write for this show to see the lazy writing on the show and that these writers are getting paid very nice salaries thank you very much.
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Old 16-01-2013, 17:33
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Does anyone think Coronation Street repeat storylines and Emmerdale? Well when all storylines have been done what is there left to do then have no storylines? I don't think it matters much if there are too many Branning's did people complain about the Branning's in 2006 and 2007 when Max, Tanya, Lauren, Abi, Bradley, Jack, Jim, Dot and Stacey were in the show?
People complain about all the soaps on here, that's what this place is for. I'm not too bothered about Eastenders at the moment I can remember the brannings in 2006/2007 and I liked them, I thought they brought a lot to the show but we are in 2013 now and despite all the dramas and heartbreak they still seem to be stuck in the same place. This is my problem with them. I like jo and jake, I also like tanya and max but they just don't seem to bring any excitement anymore.
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Old 16-01-2013, 17:46
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It actually makes me mad as a aspiring writer who would love to write for this show to see the lazy writing on the show and that these writers are getting paid very nice salaries thank you very much.
This coming from the person who spent months going on about how Cora could have been Sharon's birth mother...

The writers are not the problem. Some of these people have been writing for years, long before Kirkwood came along and during previous perceived golden eras. The fault lies with the material they have to work with which is down to the storyliners.
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Old 16-01-2013, 17:52
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Does anyone think Coronation Street repeat storylines and Emmerdale? Well when all storylines have been done what is there left to do then have no storylines?
The Kirsty and Tyrone storyline in Coro - a woman domestically abusing a man - is more original than anything EE is doing right now and is keeping me more interested than anything EE is doing right now - even if elements of it are causing mixed feelings.

If you don't like the Brannings as much as other characters, you're entitled to feel that way and the writing for the last 12 months HAS been dissapointing. Sharon's so-called pill addition storyline and Christian and Syed's exit storyline should tell everyone that the producers and writers have days when they're not on top of their game. Even Dot's very brief reaction to Sharon being back felt strange to me and possibly because the writers needed to get back to Max, Tanya and Kirsty.

You like the Brannings, others don't, that's the way it is.
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Old 16-01-2013, 18:06
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This coming from the person who spent months going on about how Cora could have been Sharon's birth mother...

The writers are not the problem. Some of these people have been writing for years, long before Kirkwood came along and during previous perceived golden eras. The fault lies with the material they have to work with which is down to the storyliners.
This is the most ludicrous post I've read on here for ages. The writers are the storyliners as you put it. Do you think they have no input into the storyline? OF course they do, its part of the whole production that when deciding on a story that everyone gets together and plans the outcome. If anything all the producer is doing is overseeing the production and making final decisions but the writers are very much the reason for most of the storylines.
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Old 16-01-2013, 18:13
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We have opinions and its a forum so we want to voice our opinions. Personally the SLs havent been that interesting, the Lola/Phil/Lexi plot has drag out and become repetitive. The Kirsty plot is just the same old thing when it comes to Max and Tanya. Bianca is still poor, can't she just get a stable job so we can see development.
Kat/Alfie/Roxy, seems to be something to bide time so Kalfie can reunite just so Kat can cheat again.
Ayesha, is boring. Have a feeling Zainab will get a crap exit.

The good things are Ava, Dexter, Abi, Dot, Denise and Ian.
EE focus too much on a set of characters and other characters such as Denise and Ian get pushed aside and used in other peoples SL.
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