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Witches, cliques, cronies and block votes
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wonkeydonkey
17-01-2013
All have special meanings on digitalspy.

Witches = a group of women who dare to become friendly. Bitchiness/ negativity are not necessary, just that most of the group should be in possession of a womb. See for example: the gender divide in BB4. There are hundreds of posts hounding the 'three witches', though the male group was at least as close, as exclusive, and rather more hostile towards the others. Men can never form groups of witches, oooh no. They are 'friends'. The common habit of putting Rylan among the 'witches' this year raises the disquieting possiblitiy that he doesn't count as a man.

Cliques: similar to witches, they are a group of housemates who seem friendly, but which does not include the personal favourite of the person posting. BB groups of friends are in fact almost never exclusive; we see these alleged cliques, and most of the time they are sitting chatting perfectly amiably with someone not part of the alleged clique at all. This only stops happening if there is a very clear geographical location associated with a group, as with Makosi's loft or the men's nest in BB11.

Cronies: in the real world, a crony is a friend of someone in a position of power, normally a senior politician, who is given a desirable job on the back of that friendship. On DS BB it means, "someone I don't like has friends; how unutterably disgusting and wrong."

Block votes: a group of friends who do not nominate each other, but those to whom they are less close, are accused of 'block voting'. Because of course, any decent person would always choose to nominate their closest friends in the hope that someone they like less will have the fun of winning the show. Stands to reason.
Yeah_Jackie
17-01-2013
Can you do the DS Definition of vile too please. It obviously has particular meaning on here too.
Flower Pot
17-01-2013
lol how true!
Flower Pot
17-01-2013
Originally Posted by Yeah_Jackie:
“Can you do the DS Definition of vile too please. It obviously has particular meaning on here too.”

easy one

vile = speidi
wonkeydonkey
17-01-2013
'Vile' is the universal DS BB critical term. It can be anything from a burp to a facial expression to what someone 'was obviously thinking, if only BB had shown them'. It is used because it handily combines strength of feeling with just a touch of humour. (We do not, for example, say that Conor's epilator rant was naughty, which sounds too weak; nor do we say that it was wicked, which sounds a bit too grown up for big brother).
SnowStorm86
17-01-2013
I like the witches this year.
Yeah_Jackie
17-01-2013
Thanks wonkey. I have cut and pasted that to clipboard for handy future reference
haphash
17-01-2013
You missed out the definition of 'fake'. This is always open to debate too
kimotag
17-01-2013
We have yet to come up with a name for a group of guys that is equivalent to witches, but I wish we had had one for the trios of Conor, Arron and Luke S in BB13 and Harvey, Situation and Ashley in the last CBB! Veri coined the name 'Mean Boy Three' for the BB13 trio which is good, but only works if it is a group of three. Funnily enough, three seems to be the optimum number for a cohesive male group in BB. Other examples would be Vern, Coolio and Terry in a previous CBB and Freddie, Siavash and Marcus in BB10!
ofni
17-01-2013
Originally Posted by wonkeydonkey:
“'Vile' is the universal DS BB critical term. It can be anything from a burp to a facial expression to what someone 'was obviously thinking, if only BB had shown them'. It is used because it handily combines strength of feeling with just a touch of humour. (We do not, for example, say that Conor's epilator rant was naughty, which sounds too weak; nor do we say that it was wicked, which sounds a bit too grown up for big brother).”

OK then, wonkey, how about:

"desperate" (often spelt "desparate")?

"wannabe" (often used in conjunction with "desperate/desparate")?

"fake"?

Also:

How long does "fifteen minutes of fame" last?

Oh yes, how about "dull" and "deadwood"?
LydiaRowling
17-01-2013
What a brilliant post!

I especially agree with the Witches comment!

It seems ladies cant be friends
Mary Berry
17-01-2013
Originally Posted by wonkeydonkey:
“All have special meanings on digitalspy.

Witches = a group of women who dare to become friendly. Bitchiness/ negativity are not necessary, just that most of the group should be in possession of a womb. See for example: the gender divide in BB4. There are hundreds of posts hounding the 'three witches', though the male group was at least as close, as exclusive, and rather more hostile towards the others. Men can never form groups of witches, oooh no. They are 'friends'. The common habit of putting Rylan among the 'witches' this year raises the disquieting possiblitiy that he doesn't count as a man.

Cliques: similar to witches, they are a group of housemates who seem friendly, but which does not include the personal favourite of the person posting. BB groups of friends are in fact almost never exclusive; we see these alleged cliques, and most of the time they are sitting chatting perfectly amiably with someone not part of the alleged clique at all. This only stops happening if there is a very clear geographical location associated with a group, as with Makosi's loft or the men's nest in BB11.

Cronies: in the real world, a crony is a friend of someone in a position of power, normally a senior politician, who is given a desirable job on the back of that friendship. On DS BB it means, "someone I don't like has friends; how unutterably disgusting and wrong."

Block votes: a group of friends who do not nominate each other, but those to whom they are less close, are accused of 'block voting'. Because of course, any decent person would always choose to nominate their closest friends in the hope that someone they like less will have the fun of winning the show. Stands to reason.”

Very helpful ( and funny)
wonkeydonkey
17-01-2013
Originally Posted by haphash:
“You missed out the definition of 'fake'. This is always open to debate too ”

'Fake' means "someone I don't like might be coming over well, dammit!" It is used when the disliked person is being polite, or resilient under pressure, or dealing well with nominations, or any other situation when the poster would much rather they were lying face down on the carpet screaming.
Originally Posted by ofni:
“OK then, wonkey, how about:

"desperate" (often spelt "desparate")?

"wannabe" (often used in conjunction with "desperate/desparate")?

"fake"?

Also:

How long does "fifteen minutes of fame" last?

Oh yes, how about "dull" and "deadwood"?”

'Desperate' and 'wannabe' are closely related. They are used when a housemate disliked by the poster pitches something, anything at the media; or is rumoured to be being considered for something; or worst of all, has been offered something. It is suggested that the person should "have some dignity" and "go back to well deserved obscurity". In recent years the words have been unreasonably stretched at times to include social media, as if they were the equivalent of doing comedy busking in Trafalgar Square. "Is that desperate wannabe still going on about...?" - is used to attack someone whose perfectly ordinary tweet has been drawn to the attention of someone who dislikes them. Disliked housemates should obviously be exiled to Mongolia and deprived of access to electricity for life.

"X's 15 minutes of fame" are always "over".

"Deadwood" describes housemates with the social skills not to attract a lot of nominations. People like them! It's horrible! Surely there should be a rule, preferably leading to instant ejection from the house, against making other housemates like you and enjoy living with you!

People have been know to demand up to a quadruple eviction to 'get out the deadwood' in the hope that a generally unpopular favourite will win by default.
Verence
17-01-2013
Bit*ching = A HM the poster doesn't like saying something about a HM the poster does like

Discussing = A HM the poster does like saying something about a HM the poster doesn't like
LydiaRowling
17-01-2013
Originally Posted by Verence:
“Bit*ching = A HM the poster doesn't like saying something about a HM the poster does like

Discussing = A HM the poster does like saying something about a HM the poster doesn't like”

Absolutley spot on
BlueStreak
17-01-2013
don't forget bullying.

that always crops up somewhere.

Mary Berry
17-01-2013
Originally Posted by wonkeydonkey:
“All have special meanings on digitalspy.

Witches = a group of women who dare to become friendly. Bitchiness/ negativity are not necessary, just that most of the group should be in possession of a womb. See for example: the gender divide in BB4. There are hundreds of posts hounding the 'three witches', though the male group was at least as close, as exclusive, and rather more hostile towards the others. Men can never form groups of witches, oooh no. They are 'friends'. The common habit of putting Rylan among the 'witches' this year raises the disquieting possiblitiy that he doesn't count as a man.

Cliques: similar to witches, they are a group of housemates who seem friendly, but which does not include the personal favourite of the person posting. BB groups of friends are in fact almost never exclusive; we see these alleged cliques, and most of the time they are sitting chatting perfectly amiably with someone not part of the alleged clique at all. This only stops happening if there is a very clear geographical location associated with a group, as with Makosi's loft or the men's nest in BB11.

Cronies: in the real world, a crony is a friend of someone in a position of power, normally a senior politician, who is given a desirable job on the back of that friendship. On DS BB it means, "someone I don't like has friends; how unutterably disgusting and wrong."

Block votes: a group of friends who do not nominate each other, but those to whom they are less close, are accused of 'block voting'. Because of course, any decent person would always choose to nominate their closest friends in the hope that someone they like less will have the fun of winning the show. Stands to reason.”

Originally Posted by Verence:
“Bit*ching = A HM the poster doesn't like saying something about a HM the poster does like

Discussing = A HM the poster does like saying something about a HM the poster doesn't like”

Lol my favourite thread so far, funny funny
Verence
17-01-2013
Chosen One

Used to describe a HM that the poster believes is being given a favourable edit and special treatment
Mary Berry
17-01-2013
Originally Posted by wonkeydonkey:
“'Fake' means "someone I don't like might be coming over well, dammit!" It is used when the disliked person is being polite, or resilient under pressure, or dealing well with nominations, or any other situation when the poster would much rather they were lying face down on the carpet screaming.


'Desperate' and 'wannabe' are closely related. They are used when a housemate disliked by the poster pitches something, anything at the media; or is rumoured to be being considered for something; or worst of all, has been offered something. It is suggested that the person should "have some dignity" and "go back to well deserved obscurity". In recent years the words have been unreasonably stretched at times to include social media, as if they were the equivalent of doing comedy busking in Trafalgar Square. "Is that desperate wannabe still going on about...?" - is used to attack someone whose perfectly ordinary tweet has been drawn to the attention of someone who dislikes them. Disliked housemates should obviously be exiled to Mongolia and deprived of access to electricity for life.

"X's 15 minutes of fame" are always "over".

"Deadwood" describes housemates with the social skills not to attract a lot of nominations. People like them! It's horrible! Surely there should be a rule, preferably leading to instant ejection from the house, against making other housemates like you and enjoy living with you!

People have been know to demand up to a quadruple eviction to 'get out the deadwood' in the hope that a generally unpopular favourite will win by default.”

This too
wonkeydonkey
17-01-2013
Originally Posted by Verence:
“Bit*ching = A HM the poster doesn't like saying something about a HM the poster does like

Discussing = A HM the poster does like saying something about a HM the poster doesn't like”

Yes, absolutely. And I always think it is ridiculous what a hard line people take on this when it concerns people they dislike. There are only two reasons why a housemate might not, over a period of bored weeks, discuss other housemates with their friends:

1. They are EXTREMELY media aware, and have made a conscious decision to be the good guy for the duration;
2. They are really not interested in other people, and couldn't care less what they have said or done.

Neither of those are exactly dazzling personal traits.
Flower Pot
17-01-2013
Originally Posted by Verence:
“Bit*ching = A HM the poster doesn't like saying something about a HM the poster does like

Discussing = A HM the poster does like saying something about a HM the poster doesn't like”

or should discussing read "Being Real/Speaking the Truth"
Veri
17-01-2013
Originally Posted by wonkeydonkey:
“All have special meanings on digitalspy.

Witches = a group of women who dare to become friendly. Bitchiness/ negativity are not necessary, just that most of the group should be in possession of a womb. See for example: the gender divide in BB4. There are hundreds of posts hounding the 'three witches', though the male group was at least as close, as exclusive, and rather more hostile towards the others. Men can never form groups of witches, oooh no. They are 'friends'. The common habit of putting Rylan among the 'witches' this year raises the disquieting possiblitiy that he doesn't count as a man.

Cliques: similar to witches, they are a group of housemates who seem friendly, but which does not include the personal favourite of the person posting. BB groups of friends are in fact almost never exclusive; we see these alleged cliques, and most of the time they are sitting chatting perfectly amiably with someone not part of the alleged clique at all. This only stops happening if there is a very clear geographical location associated with a group, as with Makosi's loft or the men's nest in BB11.

Cronies: in the real world, a crony is a friend of someone in a position of power, normally a senior politician, who is given a desirable job on the back of that friendship. On DS BB it means, "someone I don't like has friends; how unutterably disgusting and wrong."

Block votes: a group of friends who do not nominate each other, but those to whom they are less close, are accused of 'block voting'. Because of course, any decent person would always choose to nominate their closest friends in the hope that someone they like less will have the fun of winning the show. Stands to reason.”

All of that is distortion. Call it sarcastic or whatever, but it's still not what people actually mean; and this time, "clique" is something the HMs have said.

Even "Witches", which is used in a questionable way here, isn't used with the meaning you give it above. (The word "witch" doesn't refer only to woman, btw, so your post's attempt to imply homophobia about Rylan doesn't really work either.)

And where were the "there are hundreds of posts hounding the 'three witches' during bb4? I was in the C4 forum at the time, and don't remember anything like that; and you didn't join this forum until years later.
Verence
17-01-2013
Originally Posted by Flower Pot:
“or should discussing read "Being Real/Speaking the Truth" ”

Those two terms can refer to HM who always seem to be insulting other HMs although tbf as it does depend on the poster's opinion of the HMs in question
Veri
17-01-2013
Originally Posted by Verence:
“Chosen One

Used to describe a HM that the poster believes is being given a favourable edit and special treatment”

That is actually correct. "Chosen One" is used that way.

So that definition doesn't belong in this thread.

To fit in with the thread, it seems you're supposed to give some ridiculous meaning that isn't one people actually use, phrased in a way that's in effect a sly attack on posters who dare to use the term.
haphash
17-01-2013
Originally Posted by wonkeydonkey:
“'Fake' means "someone I don't like might be coming over well, dammit!" It is used when the disliked person is being polite, or resilient under pressure, or dealing well with nominations, or any other situation when the poster would much rather they were lying face down on the carpet screaming. ”

Yes 'fake' is now an euphemism for being polite to somebody instead of screaming profanities at them.

You forgot 'Entertaining'
This used to mean people who created a bit of fun in the house but sadly these days on this forum it is applied to anyone who is actively unpleasant and causes a controversy/row.
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