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Old 18-01-2013, 14:16
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Biffy rocker Simon Neil says that British rock in the 90's was Rubbish same up down thing Brit Pop Beatle sounding Tribute acts.But he claim he liked Oasis and Manic Street Preacher along with The Verve and early Radiohead.We were more intro the more Grungy American Alternative rock sound at the time when we were young.Cause people just got sick of Brit Pop in 98 and the same band sounding a Beatle and Small Faces tribute.It got more better when Muse and The Stereophonic came along and The Music and some others.

Was Brit pop crap.
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Old 18-01-2013, 14:24
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Huh?
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Old 18-01-2013, 14:33
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I think there are suppose to be some quotation marks somewhere but it's not clear where.
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Old 18-01-2013, 15:04
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Is part of it what Simon Neil said and another part what you think, or is it all a quotation?

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Old 18-01-2013, 15:13
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Biffy rocker Simon Neil says that British rock in the 90's was Rubbish same up down thing Brit Pop Beatle sounding Tribute acts.But he claim he liked Oasis and Manic Street Preacher along with The Verve and early Radiohead.We were more intro the more Grungy American Alternative rock sound at the time when we were young.Cause people just got sick of Brit Pop in 98 and the same band sounding a Beatle and Small Faces tribute.It got more better when Muse and The Stereophonic came along and The Music and some others.

Was Brit pop crap.
It might be the same name in a different order, but if that quote is anything to go by, Simon Neil's grasp of English is rubbish compared to Neil Simon's.
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Old 18-01-2013, 15:21
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I know that Biffy Clyro have an infamous chip on their shoulder due to BBC Radio 6 Music resolutely refusing to playlist their music (probably as they are like a mix of 2000s lowest common denominator quiet/loud folk/bombast stadium rock bands (Stereophonics; Snow Patrol; Muse; U2) at their most uninspired & unadventurous. Naturally as their music is post emo landfill bombast alternative rock Radio 1 worships them.

Whilst they maintain a hypocritical too cool for school attitude of being happy to take the royalty cheque for an X-Factor winner covering their most well known song; and slagging off the likes of Robbie Williams; Noel Gallagher; Thom Yorke & Damon Albarn; whilst being happy to take the filthy lucre of supporting the likes of well past their sell by date veteran acts The Who, Bon Jovi, Red Hot Chili Peppers, and The Rolling Stones.
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Old 18-01-2013, 15:23
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Assuming I've figured out what he was saying...

I completely agree with him, I too was more into "grungy american alternative rock" and dance music throughout the whole Brit Pop thing. I thought most 90s British Rock music was pretty dull (as are Biffy Clyro these days tbh)
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Old 18-01-2013, 18:50
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Bizarre comment, considering most of Biffy Clyro's music sounds like a cheap knock-off of Britpop acts. I liked some grunge, but overall it was too mirthless, depressing and dour. Sadly, some people equate that with being deep.
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Old 18-01-2013, 19:04
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I lived in London during the 'Brit-pop' era, but saw it as a London vanity project by local media. As for 'grunge', it was just another 'look'!

IMO Throwing Muses/Pixies/Belly were far more interesting.
When cobain died all my work colleagues went into meltdown that evening, whereas I was miffed by it.

To me Courtney Love was the far more interesting one in that relationship.
Saw her at Shepherds Bush on the Live Thru This Tour and she was effing amazing with genuine presence and for a couple of years, she rocked. Now.... What happened?!

As for Blur vrs Oasis, neither! Pulp, thankyou very much!
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Old 18-01-2013, 19:06
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I remember seeing Biffy supporting Black Rebel Mororcycle Club in 2001 I think. They got booed off - they were crap then and are crap now !
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Old 18-01-2013, 19:26
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Globally it was Brit Pop and Grunge ....both were great in their own right ...but of course there was some manufactured pap in both genres..... but I actually liked this era ..... especially with the thriving rnb and dance scene too... pop was mainly out of vogue at this time (except a few).
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Old 18-01-2013, 19:49
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Oasis, Manic Street Preachers, The Verve and Radiohead were all great rock acts.

Biffy Clyro are nowhere near that level. They also have the worst band name ever.
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Old 18-01-2013, 20:24
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my fave brit pop acts - Blur; Manics; Verve; Oasis; Salad; Gene; Sleeper; Radiohead; Pulp; Mansun; Gene; James; Bluetones; Divine Comedy
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Old 18-01-2013, 20:46
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I've just written 6,000 words on Britpop for my dissertation ironically enough, I think that whilst the music itself wasn't as dramatic and dynamic as what some people like it to believe (I still think there were some good songs there mind you) it was the environment and hysteria that it was part of that had the most dramatic effects, being part of 'Cool Britannia) Britpop helped to play a part in instigating a feeling of patriotism and positivity that hadn't been seen since the 1960's, even if it was down to ulterior factors as well such as an upturn in Britain's economy. As well as this it was the way in which Britpop so actively sold itself on working class ideology in a way other commercial pop groups hadn't done in a while, at a time when as a result of lad cultures prominence was increasingly important. Oasis in particular were glorified for their Burnage upbringing whilst Blur became hate figures and dismissed as inauthentic largely due to their status as middle-class.

The legacy of Britpop was for me the creation of anthemic groups such as Keane, Athlete, Elbow, Coldplay etc and a new audience and interpretation of what defines 'Indie' music, with the traditional indie audience of the past replaced with an almost MOR please everyone mentality, as well as the inadvertant creation of the faux-feminism of groups such as The Spice Girls which was heavily Britpop derived.
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Old 18-01-2013, 21:04
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Biffy rocker Simon Neil says that British rock in the 90's was Rubbish same up down thing Brit Pop Beatle sounding Tribute acts.But he claim he liked Oasis and Manic Street Preacher along with The Verve and early Radiohead.We were more intro the more Grungy American Alternative rock sound at the time when we were young.Cause people just got sick of Brit Pop in 98 and the same band sounding a Beatle and Small Faces tribute.It got more better when Muse and The Stereophonic came along and The Music and some others.

Was Brit pop crap.
Biffy Clyro are s**t!
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Old 18-01-2013, 21:06
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It's all a matter of opinion surely?

It's not my most favourite music but some of it was good. For me it also has added nostalgia of which I'm sure would appeal to many my age as well.
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Old 18-01-2013, 21:25
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The bands that influenced biffy clyro were the anti of britpop, when kurt cobain died the music scene was shocked. Britpop was a different scene for different people, typically 15-30 they were at a 'what now?' sort of stage in their lives, they had either left school, college, uni, got a job or were getting to that sort of stage. They saw America dominate the rock music scene and saw scenes they were nothing like, they were British and not afraid to say they were happy-ish about it, they didn't mind being proud of being from somewhere ordinary and dull. It was more about intelligent people (mostly) picking up guitars and making songs about where they were from, relationships that were not all that great etc.
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Old 18-01-2013, 21:57
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I don't understand a word of the OP but I'll put my two pennies worth in.

Britpop was my era. I was at school at the time and loved Blur, Oasis, Space, Sleeper, The Bluetones, Shed 7, anything on the 'Shine' compilations. Grunge was a little before my time and I wasn't into dance music. Britpop was for me. I look back on that part of my life, my adolesence, very fondly and I have Britpop to thank for that.

Chris Evans on Radio 1, Euro 96 and the battle of Britpop (The Blur/Oasis thing which had me completely drawn in) all got me through the mid-90s. Im still stuck there, a bit.
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Old 18-01-2013, 22:05
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Biffy Clyro are s**t!
God bless them and you
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Old 18-01-2013, 22:07
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I loved it, that part of the music scene was the best thing about the 90's.
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Old 18-01-2013, 23:14
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I loved it, that part of the music scene was the best thing about the 90's.
I don't understand a word of the OP but I'll put my two pennies worth in.

Britpop was my era. I was at school at the time and loved Blur, Oasis, Space, Sleeper, The Bluetones, Shed 7, anything on the 'Shine' compilations. Grunge was a little before my time and I wasn't into dance music. Britpop was for me. I look back on that part of my life, my adolesence, very fondly and I have Britpop to thank for that.

Chris Evans on Radio 1, Euro 96 and the battle of Britpop (The Blur/Oasis thing which had me completely drawn in) all got me through the mid-90s. Im still stuck there, a bit.
Comments just like these prove my point!
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Old 19-01-2013, 01:00
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I've just written 6,000 words on Britpop for my dissertation

The legacy of Britpop was for me the creation of anthemic groups such as Keane, Athlete, Elbow, Coldplay etc and a new audience and interpretation of what defines 'Indie' music, with the traditional indie audience of the past replaced with an almost MOR please everyone mentality, as well as the inadvertant creation of the faux-feminism of groups such as The Spice Girls which was heavily Britpop derived.
I don't think you could have got it more wrong... Britpop was the antithesis of dreary Elbow, Coldplay et al. Britpop was short, snappy, stylish, with a keen 'pop' sense (think Pulp, Blur and Suede), light years away from the identikit, characterless MOR rock of Keane and the rest you mentioned. As for the Spice Girls being 'heavily Britpop derived'.... your dissertation has just a big red line through it
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Old 19-01-2013, 07:17
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I like the "brit-pop" era but i was more into the grunge scene and the euro dance/rave scene.

Oasis and Blur fued was nothing really compared to the pure hatred filled fueds from the states. No doubt someone will prove me wrong.
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Old 19-01-2013, 07:22
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I thought it was very good. I was heavy into rave in the 90s but also loved britppop. Blur wrote some brilliant catchy, well put together tunes.
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Old 19-01-2013, 08:16
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Yes, Britpop was shit.

Also, Biffy Clyro are shit.

Nice symmetry there, don't you think?
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