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patrick37
19-01-2013
why do we discuss something here?
more and more i see it is completely useless!
So many people here have an opinion and will not change their mind no matter what their favorite do or don't
that is what bothers me the most,the complete blindness by people on this forum,not open for discussion,only defending their favorites
the remind me of most of the parents this days,their child is always right and does nothing wrong,pfffffffffffffffffffff
if rylan does something wrong,i admit it
if speidi does something wrong,i admit it

why do people feel the need to defend somebody,no matter what?
Yeah_Jackie
19-01-2013
I'm not even going to discuss this. Discussion is useless.
LuckyM2012
19-01-2013
Originally Posted by patrick37:
“why do we discuss something here?
more and more i see it is completely useless!
So many people here have an opinion and will not change their mind no matter what their favorite do or don't
that is what bothers me the most,the complete blindness by people on this forum,not open for discussion,only defending their favorites
the remind me of most of the parents this days,their child is always right and does nothing wrong,pfffffffffffffffffffff
if rylan does something wrong,i admit it
if speidi does something wrong,i admit it

why do people feel the need to defend somebody,no matter what?”

I get you sometimes it does my heading, but Debates are the fun of the forum, if everyone agreed it would be boring lol.
Sex
19-01-2013
....but that's why I love DS I never take it too seriously though
Rockville
19-01-2013
Originally Posted by patrick37:
“why do we discuss something here?
more and more i see it is completely useless!
So many people here have an opinion and will not change their mind no matter what their favorite do or don't
that is what bothers me the most,the complete blindness by people on this forum,not open for discussion,only defending their favorites
the remind me of most of the parents this days,their child is always right and does nothing wrong,pfffffffffffffffffffff
if rylan does something wrong,i admit it
if speidi does something wrong,i admit it

why do people feel the need to defend somebody,no matter what?”

I think it is because they are embarrassed to be "wrong" about someone... even though the events are out of their control and they had no way of knowing they their favourite would do something stupid.
haphash
19-01-2013
True to a certain extent, although it generally depends on how attached posters are to their faves.

I can still like someone despite their flaws as I'm not perfect myself. Who is?
patrick37
19-01-2013
but do people think that once they chose a favorite,it is not allowed to admit their favorite did something wrong?
the complete blindness does my head in
wonkeydonkey
19-01-2013
I have sometimes changed my mind about someone after a forum debate. It is interesting to hear other peoples' opinions, and often people have spotted something I have missed. That doesn't mean that the forum isn't full of people who mistake noise for argument. You just have to look for the good stuff.
Grumpy pants
19-01-2013
I think it's because we tend to be more tolerant and forgiving towards those we like. It's kind of like that in life too. That's my opinion anyway.
patrick37
19-01-2013
Originally Posted by wonkeydonkey:
“I have sometimes changed my mind about someone after a forum debate. It is interesting to hear other peoples' opinions, and often people have spotted something I have missed. That doesn't mean that the forum isn't full of people who mistake noise for argument. You just have to look for the good stuff.”

you are probably right,but there are a couple of people here who seemed obsessed with defending their favorites
why?
Amnesia Haze
19-01-2013
Originally Posted by Yeah_Jackie:
“I'm not even going to discuss this. Discussion is useless.”

Looool
haphash
19-01-2013
Originally Posted by Grumpy pants:
“I think it's because we tend to be more tolerant and forgiving towards those we like. It's kind of like that in life too. That's my opinion anyway.”

That's very true. We jump on things that people do when we don't like them and excuse them if we do like them. That's human nature for you.
Sue_Rourke
19-01-2013
Originally Posted by Yeah_Jackie:
“I'm not even going to discuss this. Discussion is useless.”

You are WRONG.

Discussion is the BEST ever it's just misunderstood.

Eurggghhhh
haphash
19-01-2013
Originally Posted by Sue_Rourke:
“You are WRONG.

Discussion is the BEST ever it's just misunderstood.

Eurggghhhh ”

No you are wrong. How dare you say this?
You are not entitled to an opinion EVER
Sue_Rourke
19-01-2013
Originally Posted by haphash:
“No you are wrong. How dare you say this?
You are not entitled to an opinion EVER ”

Janette800
19-01-2013
I enjoy a good row erm discussion I don't take it seriously we all have our favourite HM's....I see what your trying to say though....so let me say I really liked Speidi at first now I don't the way this pair are acting is disgusting but if others don't agree fine...water off a ducks back I wont lose any sleep over it
haphash
19-01-2013
Originally Posted by Janette800:
“I enjoy a good row erm discussion I don't take it seriously we all have our favourite HM's....I see what your trying to say though....so let me say I really liked Speidi at first now I don't the way this pair are acting is disgusting but if others don't agree fine...water off a ducks back I wont lose any sleep over it”

Quack
wonkeydonkey
19-01-2013
Originally Posted by patrick37:
“you are probably right,but there are a couple of people here who seemed obsessed with defending their favorites
why?”

Well speaking as one of them....

It is possible to get very emotionally involved with a housemate. If you watch them every day for weeks and weeks you have probably seen more of them than you have of a lot of your friends. I have sometimes debated in my mind whether it is reasonable to say that you love a housemate. I DO say it, but hoping that people interpret it reasonably, ie that I love what I see on tv but am not delusional enough to think that they are part of my life.

If you love someone, you defend them, like mama tiger defends her cub.

I do absolutely recognise that this kind of attitude only applies to some of us, and seems insane to others.
AlexBB3
19-01-2013
Originally Posted by patrick37:
“why do people feel the need to defend somebody,no matter what?”

Your post is only looking at half the picture. Whilst some folks are taking up crazy stances to defend the indefensible, others chase round thread after thread simply to slag off their disliked HMs. That promotes kneejerk defence.
The real question I've never figured out the answer to is which comes first..... excessive love or excessive dislike? What I do know is one group drives the other to ever greater extremes.

So if you're really concerned about the quality of discussion, just post on the middle ground and point out the nonsense coming from both sides. It's not easy, lol! Or play it for the , if you prefer!
kulmar
19-01-2013
It's unfortunate but no one likes to admit they backed the wrong horse, that leads them (including me) to making excuses or seeing events through Rosé tinted glasses. Also some people just like a good row or winding people up. You need a thick skin to post here or maybe a couple of glasses of liquor at least..
adwalton
19-01-2013
Originally Posted by patrick37:
“why do we discuss something here?
more and more i see it is completely useless!
So many people here have an opinion and will not change their mind no matter what their favorite do or don't
that is what bothers me the most,the complete blindness by people on this forum,not open for discussion,only defending their favorites
the remind me of most of the parents this days,their child is always right and does nothing wrong,pfffffffffffffffffffff
if rylan does something wrong,i admit it
if speidi does something wrong,i admit it

why do people feel the need to defend somebody,no matter what?”

I think it's not just on TV shows. It's the same in politics. People will defend the party they support regardless of what they do. I'm afraid I could never join a political party as I can see good and bad in all of them, but couldn't give uncritical support to any one party
radiofree
19-01-2013
sometimes if/when we're bored, we 'need' an argument or a dispute to relieve that boredom. defending a housemate or demeaning another excites that part of us that needs exciting.
it's ridiculous of course as this is just a stupid tv show but we do it anyway. harmless escapism.
having said that, though, 'discussion' here has made me think twice occasionally and others often have insights i've missed so .it's not totally pointless.
flower 2
19-01-2013
Originally Posted by patrick37:
“why do we discuss something here?
more and more i see it is completely useless!
So many people here have an opinion and will not change their mind no matter what their favorite do or don't
that is what bothers me the most,the complete blindness by people on this forum,not open for discussion,only defending their favorites
the remind me of most of the parents this days,their child is always right and does nothing wrong,pfffffffffffffffffffff
if rylan does something wrong,i admit it
if speidi does something wrong,i admit it

why do people feel the need to defend somebody,no matter what?”

I know, I console myself that 99.9% of it is to wind me up
radiofree
19-01-2013
Originally Posted by adwalton:
“I think it's not just on TV shows. It's the same in politics. People will defend the party they support regardless of what they do. I'm afraid I could never join a political party as I can see good and bad in all of them, but couldn't give uncritical support to any one party”

yes! i've never understood why some people think everything 'their party' does is good and everything 'the other parties' do must be bad. i think some stuff labour does is good and some stuff tories do is good. i also could never join any party for this reason.
meglosmurmurs
19-01-2013
I thought this was going to be about live feed - discussion is useless because we've got nothing to watch except a few manipulated highlight shows ect ect
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