IMO the ones having the most airtime and the ones being thrust in our faces to a nauseating level are Razors testicles. If there is a camera about those nutty guys are hogging it.
They are even threatening to walk as Rylans testicles are getting special privileges in being allowed out of their pants and out of the house.
I have to say there is not an episode when these guys are not on show or are not being fondled in a blatant attempt at camera time.Plenty of dvks in that house but none are as big a fame ho as those testicles.

Sorry, but your post is too logical.

This is not a contender. It's definitely the worst by a very long way.

Of course Jamie East will be telling us how it just keeps on getting better.

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He surely did. I really don't like Heidi and Spencer but they have certainly been a bit more multi-dimensional and interesting than the others. His weirdos comment, as he subsequently explained, referred to Paula's toothless picture. How shallow of Rylan to judge someone on their entry VT and not give them a chance at all, eh? Just stick 'em in the basement and start bitching straight away.


I'm not sure who these Speidi fans you mention are; but just to clarify - again - I'm not a Speidi fan. I can't stand any of those left. I wanted Sam to win or, at a push, Gillian.


Well that's the difference between you and I. I like to give people a chance - particularly people I haven't even met - before entering the bitching Olympics and using them as my punching bag.


And here come the rolleyes. I don't continue discussions with people who resort to the It doesn't constitute an argument.


I'm not going to la, la, la at all; I'm going to tell you what I've always told my daughter. Form your own opinions about people; meet them yourself and go with your gut instinct.


The script is so blindingly transparent that it's made me switch off for only the second time since the programme began.

I think Heidi and Spencer have been brilliant viewing, Rylan would have been fine and the others...well no comment but yawn. BUT what I've hated about this series is the manpulation and obvious tasks. The producers seem to have forgotten that Heidi and Spencer are masters of reality TV they've been on most shows and they know what they are doing so of course they know they are being watched when sent on 'secret' tasks.

I'm more annoyed by the way channel 5 have tried to steer the voting, and made the show about 3 people only rather than who they picked to go in.

So where do you get your info that I'm supporting speidi? I have not supported any house mate this series, although I was a little sad to see Lacey go, as she done nothing wrong and seemed like a decent girl.

Please don't tell me who I'm supporting, as I feel that I'm in the best position to know who I support. You talk about not doing a" scientific study", how about basic maths?, pen and paper at the ready!!How many tasks has rylan had to do, and how many tasks had speidi had to do?

At no point did I say that you said that rylan was better at tasks, I'm not sure why you felt the need to mention it, as I clearly stated "supporters of rylan have used that as a reason ".

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You totally did 'la la la' my friend.

Cherry picking quotes without responding to the pertinent bits of my post eh...!

You fail to even contemplate the bit about Speidi casting the first stone.

Or about why you get why Speidi should hold a grudge for being put in a 'basement' (read: TV set they chose to be in just a few days later), but apparantly awful for Rylan to be a bit put out by Speidi calling them 'weirdos' (I'm surprised, seeing how much you dislike thosse who judge before meeting people )

Watch out rolly eyes -

I like how you received a perfectly reasonable reply, and decide that beacause it contains a rolly eyes smiley it 'doesn't constitute an argument'

Could you not get your 11 tear old on? They might be a touch more grown up about the matter...

I did ask you:

"Do you deny that Speidi have had as much airtime and tasks as Rylan?" You reply with the BIB. I haven't counted their number of tasks, you could well be correct. I have however noted that both Speidi and Rylan have had ashed load of airtime, and to me Speidi have had more.

Escuse my assumption that you prefer Speidi to Rylan - your biased and inaccurate assessment of the advantages they've both received kind of gives that impression

Now because I'm on a phone I can't do BIB so i just have to refer you back to your previous post.you ask the question "do you not agree that rylan and speidi haven't had as much airtime and tasks as each other ", then later on you say you haven't counted them so you're not sure, that sounds to me like someone not wanting to admit that he was wrong, or maybe rylan has done that many that you can't keep count(quite understandable).

And once again I will say, just having loads of airtime means nothing, if its mostly negative, I really can't see how you can't see that.

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Wow. What a mature and reasoned response. Ta ta.

Seeing as you've done the count, could you share the stats with us? Would be interesting.

Fair point, I referred to them both when I meant airtime - all tasks are not equal. Speidi's two day stint in the basement resulted in almost nothing but Speidi for a few programmes. Other tasks get minimal coverage.

Airtime *is* what counts in my opinion.

If Speidi choose to come across as negative (Spencer by his own admittance 'plays' the baddy so I don't get why you have an issue with the concept of that), then that's their look out.

They haven't acted in an appealing way.

Rylan's had the same advantage of airtime, and according to you tasks, and hasn't ballsed his opportunity up as much as they have.

This series has been the best in some ways and the worst in others

Ryland and Speidi and the fights that Speidi have caused have been the best and fantastic television with some amazing tasks e.g. blogger and the basement watching task. On the other hand the majority of other housemates are boring, you can argue its the editing but at the end of the day if they were entertaining enough they would be shown.

The fact that Speidi are being held up as some kind of Deana/Aaron/Shilpa type hero here just proves how bad it is.

Absoutley nothing that's come from them has been genuine.

Then you've got Rylan allowed to leave the house who knows how many times.

Gillian, Tricia, Frankie too scared to speak.

Every attempt to cause drama by the producers is "housemates get to listen to Speidi!"/"Speidi get to listen to housemates!"

Jamie East.

Yeah, it's the worst ever.

I haven't seen all of the CBB's, but i really enjoyed The last two and i'm liking this one (because of Speidi)

I'm not a Channel 5 BB hater, but this series is a definite low, my least favourite since the channel 4 one with Bez and Kenzie, notwithstanding todays fatal revelations it's been very seriously dull watching Heidi and Spencer half-heartedly going through the motions of being villains.
I'd put it down to a lame crop of housemates but I suspect that the shows current producers just don't know what the show is about.
It's not a pantomime, it's not a series of musical montages, it's about finding an interesting ensemble of personalities and watching them clash.

Its a dreadful series imho. One of the worst.

BB is just no fun anymore.

The devil
The sobbing
The basement
The over throw of the dictator
The super fan
The singing task

Possibly there are more that escape me. As for speidi they were sent to the basement to hear what the rest of their hms were saying about them, which is bound to stir up negative feelings.

And then there was the blog which once again was bound to upset their hms.


Whereas as I've said before rylan 's tasks are designed to make him look like "fun "time Charlie or is that a right Charlie?.

And please don't try to tell me that had rylan heard all his hms saying negative things about him he would have taken it better than speidi, he has been called fake by two of his hms and he's almost going into meltdown.


You can say what you want about speidi, but even after they heard all the negative comments about them and razor trying to intimidate them, they still spoke to the other hms,and its rylan who is getting upset that as he put it "they've won them over,they're all in there talking to them".

He's just wants to cause division, he like the little school girl, who doesn't want her friends to play with the girl that she
doesn't like.


There's a word called positive which in this context means favorable, and then there's a word called negative which in this context means unfavorable. Now surely even you who are a diehard rylan fan know that there is a difference between positive and negative "airtime "?.













































This is the last time that I'll mention "airtime ", there is a word called negative "

This is an awful CBB. The worst ever! I watched all of them but have never been so disinterested. None of them are decent celebrities either. Major disappointment.

Agree. I parted company afer the horrendous Josie and JJ cr*ap show and will not be watching the next CBB..this one has been dire. I'm so mad that they didn't utlise the housemates, watching Gillain's best bits just rammed it home.
It's been a forcefeeding exercise of Speidi and Rylan and lets face it if you like neither its made for pretty awful viewing

Hence no live feed. So that they can manipulate the show and contestants to their liking. If there was L/F how would they explain away r's absence whilst rehearsing for xf.

exactly how i feel, i can't relate to any of them, i genuinely don't think i'd be happy if any of them won, none of them have brought anything that great to the show. it just seemed like going through the motions for me i don't care about anything that happens in the show, this year has been really that bad.

Worst gaggle of zed listers by far, a truly aweful series.

It's been very entertaining for me! I have loved the back stabbing and bitchiness, but also the honesty and slow realisation from other etc. It's been great telly!

Oh - so you haven't done an accurate count then.

I'm not a diehard fan of anyone - but yeah I like Rylan and I think he gets massively unfair stick. I don't like Speidi and think they get too much unwarranted support. I'm a fan of fairness

I'd never say Rylan's perfect and Speidi all bad - but I really disagree with awful personalities being lauded and excused for bad behaviour, especially at the expense of a relatively decent person (my take on it). It sets a bad example for the more malleable viewer or FM.

That aside, my point is that other HMs have missed out massively on airtime as a result of the producers favouritism of Speidi and Rylan - and as a result we have missed out.

that's made this series rubbish.

No, I haven't done an accurate count, the show is only 3 weeks long, its not that difficult to count to six, plus like I said I may have missed some of his tasks.