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Old 21-01-2013, 16:15
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Old 21-01-2013, 16:22
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Must be true then...
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Old 21-01-2013, 16:25
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Stupid article - it says Hartnell was dead when he appeared in The Three Doctors!
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Old 21-01-2013, 17:00
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I thought Hartnell was dead, I'm desperately trying to think when the Eastenders Doctor special happened but drawing a blank on that front...
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Old 21-01-2013, 17:03
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Hartnell was dead for The Five Doctors but they used his Dalek Invasion of Earth speech as a cold open so he did appear at least.

I think Dimensions in Time was 1993 or thereabouts?
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Old 21-01-2013, 18:19
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Same rumour that was posted a while back but quickly taken down.


Nothing solid in the article airlock alpha are using for the source of their story though.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/what...n-50th-1228442

The bit about Hartnall being dead for the Three Doctors seems to have been added by Airlock Alpha.
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Old 21-01-2013, 18:24
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Hartnell was dead for The Five Doctors but they used his Dalek Invasion of Earth speech as a cold open so he did appear at least.

I think Dimensions in Time was 1993 or thereabouts?
Correct.
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Old 21-01-2013, 18:42
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Maybe they will do a Star Trek and have the Doctor meet his previous incarnations through mixed in old clips.
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Old 21-01-2013, 18:45
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Maybe they will do a Star Trek and have the Doctor meet his previous incarnations through mixed in old clips.
Just mix in clips from other productions. Hartnell's Doctor becomes embroiled with Brighton gangsters, Troughton's becomes a Punch & Judy man from pagan times, Pertwee's obsession with the Master leads to him adopting the Mark of the Rani scarecrow disguise.
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Old 21-01-2013, 18:48
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Maybe they will do a Star Trek and have the Doctor meet his previous incarnations through mixed in old clips.
The Birmingham Mail Article does say
The half-century special, to be broadcast in November, will use studio trickery to resurrect the first three Doctors William Hartnell, Patrick Troughton and Jon Pertwee in brief flashback scenes.
So (if their source is genuine) seemingly just flashbacks rather than them interacting with the current Doctor.
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Old 21-01-2013, 20:15
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So (if their source is genuine) seemingly just flashbacks rather than them interacting with the current Doctor.
To be fair, cramming eleven leads into an hour or so of television does raise some serious narrative difficulties.
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Old 21-01-2013, 20:32
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I thought Hartnell was dead, I'm desperately trying to think when the Eastenders Doctor special happened but drawing a blank on that front...
William Hartnell had filmed his scenes in 1972 but was very ill so had to rely on 'idiot cards' to remember his lines. He died in 1975.
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Old 21-01-2013, 20:42
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William Hartnell had filmed his scenes in 1972 but was very ill so had to rely on 'idiot cards' to remember his lines. He died in 1975.
I was under the impression that they'd assumed he'd need idiot cards based on sound medical advice but on the day of filming he was having a good day versus his arteriosclerosis and didn't really need them.
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Old 21-01-2013, 21:28
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I was under the impression that they'd assumed he'd need idiot cards based on sound medical advice but on the day of filming he was having a good day versus his arteriosclerosis and didn't really need them.
Well that would just ruin it, it wouldn't be the first doctor unless he fumbled a line or two.
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Old 21-01-2013, 21:35
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i hope we get compaions from the past to id love to see romana return in her 3 or 4 regeneration as she aparntly change into a 4rd during the time war would be awsome for barbara ad ian to but dont see how thats possible as there not surposed to have aged since they left the doc unless they recast them
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Old 21-01-2013, 21:43
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I do hope these rumors are accurate. Just have to wait and see. Personally, I would love to see Christopher Eccleston back in his leather coat, more than see David Tennant return.
I always thought it was a crime that Eccleston only did one series. He had so much more to contribute to the franchise.
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Old 22-01-2013, 00:14
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I happen to live in Birmingham and buy that paper. Unfortunately their What's On is usually about as useful as a chocolate kettle, even the TV guide for that day quite often has mistakes. By the way whoever proof-read that article, especially the caption, should probably visit Specsavers. And possibly the Jobcentre.
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Old 22-01-2013, 00:20
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i hope we get compaions from the past to id love to see romana return in her 3 or 4 regeneration as she aparntly change into a 4rd during the time war would be awsome for barbara ad ian to but dont see how thats possible as there not surposed to have aged since they left the doc unless they recast them
Me too and hopefully a horrible failed regeneration is involved.
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Old 22-01-2013, 00:52
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i hope we get compaions from the past to id love to see romana return in her 3 or 4 regeneration as she aparntly change into a 4rd during the time war would be awsome for barbara ad ian to but dont see how thats possible as there not surposed to have aged since they left the doc unless they recast them
Jacqueline Hill, the actress who played Barbara, is sadly no longer alive, so that character cannot return unless she is recast. William Russell, who played Ian, is alive but now in his eighties, so if he feels fit and able he could certainly reprise the role.

I take the whole "Ian and Barbara haven't aged since they left the Doctor" remark with a pinch of salt and believe it to be hearsay rather than fact, and a William Russell as Ian return would certainly prove it to be false.
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Old 22-01-2013, 01:23
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I take the whole "Ian and Barbara haven't aged since they left the Doctor" remark with a pinch of salt and believe it to be hearsay rather than fact, and a William Russell as Ian return would certainly prove it to be false.
I just took that line to mean that the Ian and Barbara around then hadn't took "the long route" to get there.
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Old 22-01-2013, 02:11
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I just took that line to mean that the Ian and Barbara around then hadn't took "the long route" to get there.
But we know they got back to Earth in 1965*.

So while more time may have passed on Earth than they actually aged it wasn't that much more, certainly not enough to start rumours that they had not aged.



*Unless you're suggesting they went off and travelled with the Doctor again and skipped a lot more years.
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Old 22-01-2013, 02:36
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But we know they got back to Earth in 1965*.

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*Unless you're suggesting they went off and travelled with the Doctor again and skipped a lot more years.
Maybe the automatic destruction mechanism didn't work on that Dalek time machine they went home in? They cleared off on the bus then Ian realised he'd left his favourite shirt behind or whatever, went back just to check and was surprised to discover the machine only a little singed but still fully functional...
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Old 22-01-2013, 09:42
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Jacqueline Hill, the actress who played Barbara, is sadly no longer alive, so that character cannot return unless she is recast. William Russell, who played Ian, is alive but now in his eighties, so if he feels fit and able he could certainly reprise the role.

I take the whole "Ian and Barbara haven't aged since they left the Doctor" remark with a pinch of salt and believe it to be hearsay rather than fact, and a William Russell as Ian return would certainly prove it to be false.
Maybe during their travels with the Doctor they had adventures in which they traveled to 2010 and they encountered friends of theirs from the 60s who were now old and couldn't believe Ian and Barbara hadn't aged. So that's how the 'rumour' started. Once they return to Earth after The Chase, they actually age normally. But at some point in 2010 there are both the old Ian and Barbara and briefly a younger version of them during an adventure with the First Doctor.
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Old 22-01-2013, 11:16
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Maybe during their travels with the Doctor they had adventures in which they traveled to 2010 and they encountered friends of theirs from the 60s who were now old and couldn't believe Ian and Barbara hadn't aged. So that's how the 'rumour' started. Once they return to Earth after The Chase, they actually age normally. But at some point in 2010 there are both the old Ian and Barbara and briefly a younger version of them during an adventure with the First Doctor.
^^^this^^^
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Old 22-01-2013, 17:26
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Fantastic idea, Listentome!
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