Originally Posted by Servalan:
“Death In Paradise is doing well because ITV gave up on Tuesdays years ago and still makes no effort. What it is currently doing is letting the BBC strengthen Death In Paradise (and it is noticeably better crafted than Series 1). It could just have easily played a new or returning drama there ... but didn't bother.”
I'm not suggesting that ITV haven't and aren't giving the BBC a free ride on Tuesday night. Regardless of that the point still remains that there isn't a BBC1 equivalent of Tuesday night where ITV could launch a new or returning show without fear of major competition potentially denting it. I would however add that given the problems that exist elsewhere in the ITV schedule I can perfectly understand why Tuesday isn't currently a priority for them and why they're placing their focus elsewhere.
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“Call The Midwife went up against two established series on a competitive Sunday night and found an audience nevertheless. I don't expect every new drama to rate that well, of course - but that does at least prove it's possible to schedule a new show against hit series and do respectably, at the very least. It also proves that audiences don't need big names in lead roles.”
Call the Midwife launched against an ageing and crumbling ITV Sunday night line-up that had undoubtedly seen better days. That's not to detract from its stunning performance but more that I think people tend to overstate the strength of that Dancing on Ice/Wild at Heart combo. Worth remembering that on Christmas Day, the one time it has really faced full strength competition, its numbers weren't as impressive as many expected. Equally worth remembering about Call the Midwife's launch is that it wasn't as if it just self started. I suspect its lead-in was the always reliable Countryfile and its lead out would have been the final episode of Sherlock's second series. That's a pretty nice sandwich to launch a new Sunday night drama in. And lets not forget that the BBC absolutely hammered the promotion of the first series of Call the Midwife at what was a peak time for it. Also whilst people might like to pretend otherwise Call the Midwife isn't a cast of unknowns.
Having said that I'm not disputing that its possible to launch drama in that 9 million range I am however saying that its a completely unrealistic and absurd standard to aim for. In recent years we've seen three dramas hit that kind of level, Downton Abbey (which had the support of a full strength X Factor), Sherlock and Call the Midwife. Compare that to the total number of dramas that have launched and it paints a picture as to what a ridiculous standard 9 million is for successful drama. Also on this note I can just say that there's a good argument to be made here that Ripper Street is dramatically under performing. Much like Sherlock and Call the Midwife Ripper Street has launched Q1 Sunday's on BBC1 following promotion over Christmas and New Year (not to mention the Olympics) and unlike both of those shows its in the 5-6 million range. Surely it should be doing better, no?
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“And sorry, but if you think five million-plus is what ITV should be aspiring to in drama, then the channel won't be improving its profile in that genre any time soon ...”
I didn't say that 5+ million is what ITV should be aspiring to. I said what they need to be able to do is position themselves and the ITV drama brand so that they're able to consistently launch and maintain drama at 5+ million. That's a group of solid bankable returnable hits. That more than anything else is what ITV needs and not just in drama either. They need a slate of shows that they can safely slot into the schedule and be reasonably sure of a 5 million range rating. In the modern age no network can subsist purely on a diet of mega-hits like X Factor and Downton. It doesn't work.
Originally Posted by
F1Ken:
“As for "I Love My Country". God knows! I'm not confident after there last LE attempts.
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Are we sure they're going ahead with putting this on Saturday night?