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Old 11-02-2013, 14:00
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data for week ending 3rd February 2013 is now live on BARB website

enjoy!

are the monthly stats for Jan going to go up this week, Mike?

i reckon it could be BBC1s best month for quite a while (betting without "olympics month")!

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Old 11-02-2013, 14:02
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With the news of the Popes resignation could ITVs old show work in a re-jigged format?

POPE IDOL ???


The BBC are ahead of the game as shock on set pictures reveal!
http://i.imgur.com/iHS8Xnt.jpg
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Old 11-02-2013, 14:05
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With the news of the Popes resignation could ITVs old show work in a re-jigged format?

POPE IDOL ???

The BBC are ahead of the game as shock on set pictures reveal!
http://i.imgur.com/iHS8Xnt.jpg
LOL. I can just see the gimmick being smoke emitted from a chimney when a coach spins his chair round...
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Old 11-02-2013, 14:08
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are the monthly stats for Jan going to go up this week, Mike?

i reckon it could be BBC1s best month for quite a while (betting without "olympics month")!

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Old 11-02-2013, 14:09
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WOAH - the consolidated rating for last week's mr selfridge is only 6.27 million viewers. I would have thought it would be much higher- does the figure include ITV HD (how much would HD add). ...
about 750k on each of ITVHD and +1 so add about 1.5m to the total...

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Old 11-02-2013, 14:15
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Old 11-02-2013, 14:20
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Someone asked about tonight's Lewis being billed as 'the last ever'. Not so in Radio Times at least.

But we did discuss on here a few weeks ago media reports saying that the main cast had decided that they did not want to film a series this year (for 2014 screening) and were going to go to the USA to look for roles.

However, it was made clear that they were not saying these 3 episodes were thus to be the last ever - just the last for now - and would consider doing more in future.

This reveals why ITV were probably not fussed about the (in my view) bad idea to suddenly switch to screening stories as two hourly episodes shown a week apart when neither Lewis nor Morse has ever been designed for that kind of scheduling.

It works okay if episodes are 24 hours apart like Silent Witness but not 7 days apart. However, we - like others I suspect - just recorded the two parts and watched as written in one long episode. So in our case they just lost the ads!

It is also probably why ITV fast tracked Endeavour to its first series alongside Lewis this year establishing the show as series ready to be able to keep the Morse legacy going in 2014.
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Old 11-02-2013, 14:32
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Thanks. As predicted, BBC One had its best month since the Olympics with 21.6%. Even more interesting is BBC Two which is only 0.1% below December and level with November, despite the scheduling changes. The BBC Trust were sceptical that BBC Two would suffer any significant audience loss (contrary to the Executive's prediction) and they appear to be right.

ITV scored 15.3% or 16.2% including +1. CBB helped Channel 5 notch up its best month since April, including +1.
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Old 11-02-2013, 14:35
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I note that many of the figures given in this thread exclude +1 (where it exists). So presumably anyone who watches a show on the later alternative does not register in the overall audience. This information although missing, might be valuable to TV companies in their attemps at selling ad time.

We use +1 channels all the time as a rescheduling device where for example, two programmes clash on different channels. We have done this for decades even taping shows on the old VHS cassettes in the past for the same reason.

We now use Sky Plus recordings for similar reasons and to provide entertainment on nights when "there is nothing on". We also use it as a speed up device. Mostly to skip ads and particularly for DOI, where it normally takes no more than twenty minutes to see what we want to see - the skating! By cutting out all the flim-flam, we are able to enjoy a lot more Sunday evening TV viewing.

I suspect that we are not alone in this and therefore are irrelevant to those counting viewers.
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Old 11-02-2013, 14:43
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Thanks. As predicted, BBC One had its best month since the Olympics with 21.6%. ...
In fact, betting without the summer, it's their best month since the new panel started in Jan 2010!

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Old 11-02-2013, 14:47
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Someone asked about tonight's Lewis being billed as 'the last ever'. Not so in Radio Times at least.

But we did discuss on here a few weeks ago media reports saying that the main cast had decided that they did not want to film a series this year (for 2014 screening) and were going to go to the USA to look for roles.

However, it was made clear that they were not saying these 3 episodes were thus to be the last ever - just the last for now - and would consider doing more in future.

This reveals why ITV were probably not fussed about the (in my view) bad idea to suddenly switch to screening stories as two hourly episodes shown a week apart when neither Lewis nor Morse has ever been designed for that kind of scheduling.

It works okay if episodes are 24 hours apart like Silent Witness but not 7 days apart. However, we - like others I suspect - just recorded the two parts and watched as written in one long episode. So in our case they just lost the ads!

It is also probably why ITV fast tracked Endeavour to its first series alongside Lewis this year establishing the show as series ready to be able to keep the Morse legacy going in 2014.
What Kevin Whatley said in various interviews was he was going to have his first summer off in 30 years (when they would normally be filming the next series) and would decide later about 2014. He said ITV had left their options open as far as the character was concerned.
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Old 11-02-2013, 14:50
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I note that many of the figures given in this thread exclude +1 (where it exists). So presumably anyone who watches a show on the later alternative does not register in the overall audience. This information although missing, might be valuable to TV companies in their attemps at selling ad time.

We use +1 channels all the time as a rescheduling device where for example, two programmes clash on different channels. We have done this for decades even taping shows on the old VHS cassettes in the past for the same reason.

We now use Sky Plus recordings for similar reasons and to provide entertainment on nights when "there is nothing on". We also use it as a speed up device. Mostly to skip ads and particularly for DOI, where it normally takes no more than twenty minutes to see what we want to see - the skating! By cutting out all the flim-flam, we are able to enjoy a lot more Sunday evening TV viewing.

I suspect that we are not alone in this and therefore are irrelevant to those counting viewers.
No, if you record and watch a Sky + recording within 7 days of transmission you are counted in the official consolidated figures. If you watch before 2am the same day, you are counted in the overnights.

Meanwhile, if you watch the repeats on +1s, you are counted by advertisers as watching a repeat showing of the programme on another channel, just as you would be if you watched a repeat showing on another day in the week - the ratings for all television channels are captured, and that includes the +1 channels.

So fear not!

Indeed, some broadcasters and media sites rather sneakily aggregate the figures together to make it look like more people watched the main original showing - ITV's chief PR lady is a case in point.

And many figures posted by some on here will include them too, to suit their particular agenda.

It does get rather confusing!
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Old 11-02-2013, 14:56
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I see CTM hit a series high of 10.85m in the officials.

And TG's HD showing at 1.40m seems high for BBCHD, and a cracking 6.42m consolidated figure for the BBC2/HD simulcast.

Meanwhile, MBB hits new heights for the Saturday repeat - 5.20m!

And that's after 9.46m watched on Monday. It really would have been something to see how many more would have watched the Monday episodes if there had been no established repeat slot - 12m? 13m?
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Old 11-02-2013, 14:57
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No, if you record and watch a Sky + recording within 7 days of transmission you are counted in the official consolidated figures. If you watch before 2am the same day, you are counted in the overnights.

Meanwhile, if you watch the repeats on +1s, you are counted by advertisers as watching a repeat showing of the programme on another channel, just as you would be if you watched a repeat showing on another day in the week - the ratings for all television channels are captured, and that includes the +1 channels.

So fear not!

Indeed, some broadcasters and media sites rather sneakily aggregate the figures together to make it look like more people watched the main original showing - ITV's chief PR lady is a case in point.

And many figures posted by some on here will include them too, to suit their particular agenda.

It does get rather confusing!
B***ocks! The ads are the same on +1 and non-plus 1 channel as you well know. Your endless droning on about +1 channels has made this thread unbearably tedious to read.
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Old 11-02-2013, 14:58
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7.017m for Mr Selfridge to answer the earlier question
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Old 11-02-2013, 15:01
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Meanwhile, MBB hits new heights for the Saturday repeat - 5.20m!

And that's after 9.46m watched on Monday. It really would have been something to see how many more would have watched the Monday episodes if there had been no established repeat slot - 12m? 13m?
Glad to see that Moone Boy beat it at the Irish Film & TV Awards this weekend. It goes some way towards absolution for inflicting this MBB trash on the UK. Hopefully they can pay off this debt to the world quicker than the ones to the European Central Bank.
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Old 11-02-2013, 15:01
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7.017m for Mr Selfridge to answer the earlier question
No 7.8M
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Old 11-02-2013, 15:09
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yeah sorry got confused- its 7.8 million for last weeks mr selfridge which is decent enough for a sunday primetime drama. I just find it boring lately- nothing seems to be happening. Oh and again can anyone give me the breakdown for last night's selfridge episode. thanks.
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Old 11-02-2013, 15:11
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B***ocks! The ads are the same on +1 and non-plus 1 channel as you well know. Your endless droning on about +1 channels has made this thread unbearably tedious to read.
But one channel is on #3 on my remote, the other on #33.

One says ITV (permanently ) in the top left of my screen, one says ITV+1.

BARB, the official recorder of ratings, lists ITV and ITV+1 as separate channels.

Anyway, I obviously touched a nerve....

6.27m on ITV SD, 0.727m on ITV HD.

Equals 7.017m

Glad to see that Moone Boy beat it at the Irish Film & TV Awards this weekend. It goes some way towards absolution for inflicting this MBB trash on the UK. Hopefully they can pay off this debt to the world quicker than the ones to the European Central Bank.
I noticed The Sunday Times Culture section yesterday had a page on the cultural snobbery surrounding MBB, and how even the out of touch metropolitan media luvvies are coming to recognise the phenomenon that is MBB, and how they might just get folk in front of their tellies again if they make shows the public actually want to watch....

But obviously you're a bit slow on the uptake still....
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Old 11-02-2013, 15:13
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Your endless droning on about +1 channels has made this thread unbearably tedious to read.
Also - does this prove that you do still read, even if you seldom post on here?

Otherwise, how would you know?

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Old 11-02-2013, 15:14
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if the bbcs revamped the voice still flops after the audition stages etc does this mean the bbc cant justify spending another 22 million for another two year contract and so itv or sky will get the voice??
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Old 11-02-2013, 15:19
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6 Nations - 5 games @ 6m; 5 games @ 3m; 5 games @ 4m = average of 4.3m

Game cost of 2.67M per game

England football games cost well under 2M per game but deliver bigger figures.

6 Nations contract has always been priced well above commercial market value. Its only value to a commercial channel would be at a lower price tag - say 25M per year or in picking only selective matches.
Of course the England games and football in general also tend to air in prime time. I do wonder how theyd perform on ITV in an afternoon slot similar to the one that Six Nations occupies on BBC1. Equally you have to wonder if Six Nations would perform noticeably better in a slightly later slot...
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Old 11-02-2013, 15:23
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at RobbieSykes123: you didn't include itv+1 which would give it an 7.7 or 7.8 million viewers. right? or am i missing something?
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Old 11-02-2013, 15:33
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at RobbieSykes123: you didn't include itv+1 which would give it an 7.7 or 7.8 million viewers. right? or am i missing something?
there is "some debate" as to whether +1 figures for a show should be added to the total viewers for that show or recorded separately.

Personally, I can see both sides, especially wrt things like Eastenders repeat showing on BBC3 not being automatically added in the same way as for Corrie and Emmerdale's +1 showings.

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Old 11-02-2013, 15:34
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at RobbieSykes123: you didn't include itv+1 which would give it an 7.7 or 7.8 million viewers. right? or am i missing something?
No, I didn't aggregate that, no.

I didn't add 5.2m to Mrs Brown either.
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