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Do you like to put the negative spin on everything in life? Even in the pub?
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What negative spin did I use there? (Beyond Ripper Street which was more about highlighting a general point that actually 9 million range dramas really is an unfair standard to be aiming for).
Did you see the consolidated figures? They were huge! You suggest Call The Midwife was only a hit because of a "stale ITV schedule". Call The Midwife was a hit because it's damn good. ITV's Sunday schedule is what it is and still gets a good audience. You just seem to be looking for negativity in good performances when infact you fail to see the obvious. |
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CBB are having brilliant ratings.
2.4million nearly for last night and 2.6million for Monday. I think tonight could be lower as NTA Awards are on. I'm going for 2.3million with +1. |
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WOW @ Speidi getting kinky under the influence of Booze!
CBB to get between 2.5 and 3.5 tonight guys. Re-evaluated estimate. |
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One thing to remember with C4 is that they have by far the best audience profile of the terrestrial channels. Very young and upmarket. It's still not enough of course - with too many shows failing to deliver on any measure. I'd imagine the staffing would be brought down dramatically under private ownership.
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That article was published exactly 52 weeks ago, so perhaps we'll get an indication of their 2012 financial performance very soon. I don't have access to commercial impacts, but overall ratings will serve as a reasonable approximation.
Channel 4 Total - performance in 2012 Live + VOSDAL, calendar year
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So far in January their share has bounced back fairly strongly year-on-year (overall and in those two demos), so perhaps they're slowly turning things around. Good [LIST][*]The Undateables (Big success)[*]Location, Location Location (Not big in 16-34, but is doing amazngly well)[*]The Hotel (All episodes above 2m, compared to 2012)[/LIST] Also; Rising Hollyoaks; Rising Simpsons; Good rating films Bad [LIST][*]The Restoration Man (Below 2m, compared to over 2m last year).[*]One Born Every Minute (still does well, but down quite a bit on last year).[/LIST] Also; Deal or No Deal is down by over 0.5m; No Shamless; No Million Pound Drop; Falling Daytime schedule. It's been mixed. Not overall great. Share for the first two weeks has been flat at 5.8% for both weeks. |
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NTAs: It's a dead heat!
7 BBC: Frozen Planet, QI, Colin Morgan (Merlin), Miranda Hart (Call the Midwife), David Witts (EastEnders), Mrs Brown's Boys, Strictly Come Dancing, 7 ITV: I'm a Celeb, This Morning, Alan Halsall (Coronation Street), Ant & Dec, Paul O'Grady For the Love of Dogs, Downton Abbey, Coronation Street Special Recognition: Joanna Lumley; Landmark Award: London 2012 |
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NTAs: It's a dead heat!
7 BBC: Frozen Planet, QI, Colin Morgan (Merlin), Miranda Hart (Call the Midwife), David Witts (EastEnders), Mrs Brown's Boys, Strictly Come Dancing, 7 ITV: I'm a Celeb, This Morning, Alan Halsall (Coronation Street), Ant & Dec, Paul O'Grady For the Love of Dogs, Downton Abbey, Coronation Street Special Recognition: Joanna Lumley; Landmark Award: London 2012 They might as well ban Ant and Dec who should have a category of their own anyway as they are the only ones in it. Apparently Benedict and Martin werent too happy that Sherlock missed out (I didnt catch that moment), but they might as well get used to it, its like Life on Mars missed out-just not popular enough in the way needed at the NTA's. |
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[LIST][*]The Undateables (Big success)[*]Location, Location Location (Not big in 16-34, but is doing amazngly well)[*]The Hotel (All episodes above 2m, compared to 2012)[/LIST]
Also; Rising Hollyoaks; Rising Simpsons; Good rating films |
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Frankie and Tricia out of CBB. Who do you guys want to win?
I think Claire deserves to win. |
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Particularly happy for SCD which really deserved to beat the rest this year.
They might as well ban Ant and Dec who should have a category of their own anyway as they are the only ones in it. Apparently Benedict and Martin werent too happy that Sherlock missed out (I didnt catch that moment), but they might as well get used to it, its like Life on Mars missed out-just not popular enough in the way needed at the NTA's. |
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I'm not sure what they can do about the entertainment presenter award beyond renaming it "The Ant & Dec Entertainment Presenter Award" and taking them out of the running! Although if that was going to happen I'd have thought it would have been this year seeing as they picked up their tenth consecutive prize last year.
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What the devil did O'Grady's Dogs win an ITV TV Award for then? Best show on ITV featuring Paul O'Grady and dogs? Please tell me it wasn't Best Documentary Series of 2012! Quote:
And remember on that weekend they will have a Jonathan Creek special. So that looks like a great Easter schedule from BBC One.
As for "I Love My Country". God knows! I'm not confident after there last LE attempts. ![]() Ken I'd hold it back for Boxing Day. |
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What the devil did O'Grady's Dogs win an ITV TV Award for then?
Best show on ITV featuring Paul O'Grady and dogs? |
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What the devil did O'Grady's Dogs win an ITV TV Award for then?
Best show on ITV featuring Paul O'Grady and dogs? Please tell me it wasn't Best Documentary Series of 2012! |
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What the devil did O'Grady's Dogs win an ITV TV Award for then?
Best show on ITV featuring Paul O'Grady and dogs? Please tell me it wasn't Best Documentary Series of 2012! And here was me accusing the show of being too predictable beforehand. How on earth did GBBO not win?!
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certainly some interesting choices (looking at the DS article)
Factual Entertainment - PoG Dogs, and now Great British Bake Off? really? Drama - Downton Abbey, fair enough, it was that or Sherlock, Doctor Who wasnt that strong last year, and Merlin isnt really going to win Best Drama. Drama Performance: Male - Merlin is a surprise win here, Sherlock seems the clear winner, guess the fact its Merlins final season swung it. Daytime - I would think The Chase of those 4 listed. So really the only obviously odd one here is Factual Entertainment, which really should have gone to GBBO |
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certainly some interesting choices (looking at the DS article)
Factual Entertainment - PoG Dogs, and now Great British Bake Off? really? Drama - Downton Abbey, fair enough, it was that or Sherlock, Doctor Who wasnt that strong last year, and Merlin isnt really going to win Best Drama. Drama Performance: Male - Merlin is a surprise win here, Sherlock seems the clear winner, guess the fact its Merlins final season swung it. Daytime - I would think The Chase of those 4 listed. So really the only obviously odd one here is Factual Entertainment, which really should have gone to GBBO |
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Some parts of this January have done well.
Good [LIST][*]The Undateables (Big success)[*]Location, Location Location (Not big in 16-34, but is doing amazngly well)[*]The Hotel (All episodes above 2m, compared to 2012)[/LIST] Also; Rising Hollyoaks; Rising Simpsons; Good rating films Bad [LIST][*]The Restoration Man (Below 2m, compared to over 2m last year).[*]One Born Every Minute (still does well, but down quite a bit on last year).[/LIST] Also; Deal or No Deal is down by over 0.5m; No Shamless; No Million Pound Drop; Falling Daytime schedule. It's been mixed. Not overall great. Share for the first two weeks has been flat at 5.8% for both weeks. In terms of All Day Shares, individuals has fallen -2.1% from 6.51% in the first 22 days of 2012 to 6.37% for the first 22 days of this year. But key demos such as 16-34s is up +3.3% (8.62% to 8.90%) as well as ABC1 Adults being up +7.3% (6.29% to 6.75%). Primetime performance has been more impressive for C4: individuals is up +4.2% y-o-y (6.64% to 6.92%), 16-34s is up +4.6% (9.49% to 9.93%) and ABC1 Adults is up an even better +11.0% (6.91% to 7.67%). C4 is up the most in peak time out of all the terrestrial channels. As ad space on the channel is mostly sold based on 16-34s and ABC1 Adults, they've done even better among those audiences year-on-year. Channel 5 though is the only terrestrial channel up year-on-year among individuals in both all day share (+1.3%) and primetime (+3.0%). Note: BARB consolidated shares will be different and comparisons different once recordings are taken into account. |
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Although it seems to be more a case of burning off episodes of Happy Endings rather than a vote of confidence.
I don't know that Happy Endings will actually survive but I don't think the situation is quite as dire as others. Quote:
It's just your comments like "Call The Midwife didn't achieve high figures on Christmas so blah blah blah!"
Did you see the consolidated figures? They were huge! You suggest Call The Midwife was only a hit because of a "stale ITV schedule". Call The Midwife was a hit because it's damn good. ITV's Sunday schedule is what it is and still gets a good audience. You just seem to be looking for negativity in good performances when infact you fail to see the obvious. Beyond that the overall point of my posts on this subject have been to highlight that these 9 million range dramas aren't a regular occurance and that launching them is a bit like catching lightening in a bottle. There's any number of factors that have to play into any given shows favour not to mention just pure blind luck. This idea that it should be the bench mark of achievement for any drama department, let alone ITV drama, to be launching shows on that scale in unfair and unrealistic. |
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I'm not sure what they can do about the entertainment presenter award beyond renaming it "The Ant & Dec Entertainment Presenter Award" and taking them out of the running! Although if that was going to happen I'd have thought it would have been this year seeing as they picked up their tenth consecutive prize last year.
![]() Back to the NTAs, and it's no surprise so many of the winners were shows the Radio Times (one of the places where the voting details were printed) raves about. Looking at the winners' list BB Addict posted, probably only Mrs Brown's Boys, EastEnders, This Morning and possibly Dogs aren't Radio Times favourites. |
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It beat Top Gear, The Apprentice and, more shockingly, Great British Bake Off in the 'Factual Entertainment' category.
And here was me accusing the show of being too predictable beforehand. How on earth did GBBO not win?! ![]() ![]() Mystifying that Dogs was the pick of those candidates. But then if the winners are voted for by core ITV demographic viewers... |
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I was only joking. As if the National ITV Awards would have a best documentary category!
![]() Mystifying that Dogs was the pick of those candidates. But then if the winners are voted for by core ITV demographic viewers... |
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Originally posted by Score in the old thread: Quote:
Also, because I remember C14E asking last week, The Magaluf Weekender got its highest overnight so far last night, averaging 773k (inc +1). 316k were aged 16-34, a series high in that demo too.
A few days late but thanks for posting these numbers. Looking like one of ITV2's biggest hits in quite a while - and I don't recall it having much promotion? I just stumbled upon a midweek repeat. I also read in Broadcast that Fake Reaction, rating under 300k on Thursdays, posted its series high of over 400k for the Saturday night repeat. First two ITV2 shows I've really liked in recent years, Celebrity Juice is the only thing I've watched regularly up to now. |
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Not all that mystifying. Top Gear and Apprentice probably split the vote, and GBBO and Dogs actually had pretty similar ratings on the whole, with only the final of Bake Off doing significantly better, so it was always going to be fairly close at least.
Yeah, I'll get my coat about now.
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I don't know that I'm entirely convinced by that line of thinking. Whilst I don't think that its an awe-inspiring show of confidence in Happy Endings by ABC I still don't think the situation is quite as bad as some are suggesting. If ABC were especially unhappy with the show they would have pulled it along with Apartment 23 and stuck an hour of repeats on Tuesday night and burnt both of them off together over the summer. Or they would have just left both in place until March and then never mentioned either again. That they've opted for double episodes of Happy Endings I think suggests that they want to at least try and work out if its worth saving or not. Plus with 57 episodes (by the end of this season) its in that odd push to syndication or not push to syndication zone and comedies tend to fall into the push to syndication option on that. It'll be whether everyone involved can make that financially viable or not.
I don't know that Happy Endings will actually survive but I don't think the situation is quite as dire as others. |
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