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Old 15-02-2013, 21:34
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Robbie yet again thinking ths thread is a 'catch all ITV bashing thread'.

All the rest of commercial tv was presumably showing upmarket adverts at 3pm I presume. Don't bother responding as it isn't on topic.
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Old 15-02-2013, 21:38
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the good news for Channel 5, is that its crime dramas are back, CSI, NCIS & The Mentalist will all be airing new episodes soon, this is where the channels strength is, and it should not be messing around with reality trash.
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Old 15-02-2013, 21:50
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Robbie yet again thinking ths thread is a 'catch all ITV bashing thread'.

All the rest of commercial tv was presumably showing upmarket adverts at 3pm I presume. Don't bother responding as it isn't on topic.
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Old 15-02-2013, 21:52
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These are the overnight figures for Child of Our Time from 2006 onwards:

Series 6 (four Sundays at 8-9pm in Jan/Feb 2006)
* Started with 5.33m (20.3%), ended with 4.035m (15.9%), averaging 4.57m (17.6%)

Series 7 (three Sundays at 7-8pm in Aug/Sep 2007)
* Started at 3.30m (16.1%), ended with 3.03m (14.75%), averaging 2.81m (14.8%)

Series 8 (three Wednesdays at 8-9pm in May 2008)
* Started at 2.87m (14.1%), ended with 2.40m (10.3%), averaging 2.84m (13.3%)

Series 9
* This was "The Big Personality Test", broadcast on Sun 30 and Mon 31 May 2010 at 9pm. The two parts achieved 2.74m (12.3%) and 2.40m (9.4%), averaging 2.57m (10.8%)
Thanks for this. Great job I really did not expect someone to find any figures.

So basically It was thrown against BGT and fell badly. I would expect it to do better than 2.5m in a couple of weeks time. 3-4 million maybe. It's a shame it has really declined because I seem to remember it was a major commission back in 2000.It's supposed to follow the kids for 20 years. I wonder if they actually will complete it. If people tune in maybe if not they could bump it to BBC Two?

Anyway It's been a while and for us who are interested want to see what has happened to the terrors. Are they still as bad as my kids? Probably not.

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Old 15-02-2013, 22:10
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Yes, but there is a serious point coming out of Robbie's post. Payday loan companies are very much frowned upon because of the level of interest they charge and the level of debt they put people into. It's a highly debatable moral point as to whether the country's leading commercial network should be profiting from such organizations by screening their commercials......


Robbie yet again thinking ths thread is a 'catch all ITV bashing thread'.

All the rest of commercial tv was presumably showing upmarket adverts at 3pm I presume. Don't bother responding as it isn't on topic.
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Old 15-02-2013, 22:15
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Yes, but there is a serious point coming out of Robbie's post. Payday loan companies are very much frowned upon because of the level of interest they charge and the level of debt they put people into. It's a highly debatable moral point as to whether the country's leading commercial network should be profiting from such organizations by screening their commercials......
im sorry but WHAT!?

if someone is so concerned that a company is profiting from advertising of Payday loans type services, why are you not more concerned with the fact they exist at all? That ITV makes some profit from advertising them, should be the least of your problems.
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Old 15-02-2013, 22:21
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Adverts for risky loans, debt free schemes, pawnbroker services and ambulance chasers are the grim reality of daytime commercial TV regardless of the channel, nothing specific to ITV.
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Old 15-02-2013, 22:24
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Who says I'm not concerned about why they exist. I work for an organization that is actively trying to prevent their spread by promoting alternatives for people targeted by them.

ITV's "connection" with them arguably gives them an air of respectability that they don't deserve....

im sorry but WHAT!?

if someone is so concerned that a company is profiting from advertising of Payday loans type services, why are you not more concerned with the fact they exist at all? That ITV makes some profit from advertising them, should be the least of your problems.
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Old 15-02-2013, 22:28
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Yes, but hasn't one of these companies sponsored prime time ITV programming???


Adverts for risky loans, debt free schemes, pawnbroker services and ambulance chasers are the grim reality of daytime commercial TV regardless of the channel, nothing specific to ITV.
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Old 15-02-2013, 22:30
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Who says I'm not concerned about why they exist. I work for an organization that is actively trying to prevent their spread by promoting alternatives for people targeted by them.

ITV's "connection" with them arguably gives them an air of respectability that they don't deserve....
you think advertising on ITV gives anything respectability?
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Old 15-02-2013, 22:39
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Puts it into the mainstream and helps to make it the "norm", so arguably yes.

you think advertising on ITV gives anything respectability?
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Old 15-02-2013, 22:47
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Puts it into the mainstream and helps to make it the "norm", so arguably yes.
And where does the responsibility of the consumer fit into all of this?

Not ITV's biggest fan, but this is weak. I'd be more concerned about how some of its programming like The Jeremy Kyle Show exploits vulnerable people for entertainment purposes.
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Old 15-02-2013, 22:54
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Puts it into the mainstream and helps to make it the "norm", so arguably yes.
not sure I agree, that ITVs part in this is as big as you are making it out to be, most of the adverts made are shockingly awful, so its amazing those adverts have any impact. Meanwhile the adverts are normally aired among other very dodgy looking adverts.

Daytime TV advertising, has even less life in it, than the "high street".
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Old 15-02-2013, 22:56
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Hush, we all know you prefer it on +1.
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Old 15-02-2013, 23:11
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Yes, but there is a serious point coming out of Robbie's post. Payday loan companies are very much frowned upon because of the level of interest they charge and the level of debt they put people into. It's a highly debatable moral point as to whether the country's leading commercial network should be profiting from such organizations by screening their commercials......
I don't think any of those companies are illegal and therefore they are perfectly acceptable to be advertised.

You are going into nanny state territory if you ban anything that might encourage a poor way of life.

Anyway yet again adverts on TV is translated to adverts on ITV, as if none of the other channels show adverts. Maybe people watch more ITV than other commercial channels than they are letting on?
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Old 15-02-2013, 23:23
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Wide ranging Media Guardian article covering likely options for next BBC Director of Vision, next Director of News and future of Newsnight (strengthening - good news!):

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013...radio-top-jobs
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Old 15-02-2013, 23:29
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the good news for Channel 5, is that its crime dramas are back, CSI, NCIS & The Mentalist will all be airing new episodes soon, this is where the channels strength is, and it should not be messing around with reality trash.
The lineup is looking good plus Jack Taylor which I think will pull in good numbers.
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Old 16-02-2013, 00:12
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I don't think any of those companies are illegal and therefore they are perfectly acceptable to be advertised.

You are going into nanny state territory if you ban anything that might encourage a poor way of life.
We already live in a nanny state, that started when they banned tobacco advertising, a legal product from which the hypocritical Government rakes in £billions in revenue.
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Old 16-02-2013, 02:36
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yeah it has but to be fair AI always premieres high and then drops to steadier realistic numbers after a few weeks, but this season it is doing 3s and 4s which isnt great. Its definately in its twilight but its still rating bigger than x factor and is still fox's biggest show so it wont be gone just yet, also i assume it costs less to make than x factor. Uunfortunately for fox is AI is its biggest performer still by a long way but is no longer dominating like it used to, the race for 2nd place for the networks is therefore going to be very interesting. I think NBC could possibly snatch it if the voice comes back well and helps NBC to monday and tuesday wins as it was doing last season
The on screen talent bill for Idol has been estimated to be as much as $54m (Seacrest - $15m, Carey - $18m, Minaj - $12m, Urban - $4m, Jackson - $5m). That's the second highest total in the shows history. Only 2010 was higher - Cowell's last year on the $36m a year deal, Seacrest's first on $15m, plus Ellen Degeneres on good money too. But that series averaged about an 8.0.

I think FOX have been badly burnt by their decision to make ambitious investments in big name talent to be on the judging panels. The non-effect of hiring Britney Spears for $15m on X Factor was the first sign of trouble ahead.

I'll be surprised if the X Factor panel and hosts (not including Cowell) earn more than $10m combined. What they do with Idol is trickier. Can they really revamp it all AGAIN?!
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Old 16-02-2013, 03:45
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The on screen talent bill for Idol has been estimated to be as much as $54m (Seacrest - $15m, Carey - $18m, Minaj - $12m, Urban - $4m, Jackson - $5m). That's the second highest total in the shows history. Only 2010 was higher - Cowell's last year on the $36m a year deal, Seacrest's first on $15m, plus Ellen Degeneres on good money too. But that series averaged about an 8.0.

I think FOX have been badly burnt by their decision to make ambitious investments in big name talent to be on the judging panels. The non-effect of hiring Britney Spears for $15m on X Factor was the first sign of trouble ahead.

I'll be surprised if the X Factor panel and hosts (not including Cowell) earn more than $10m combined. What they do with Idol is trickier. Can they really revamp it all AGAIN?!
The problem they've made is they've gone for the names instead of personalities. Sharon Osbourne, Louis Walsh, Dannii Minogue and Cheryl Cole weren't exactly A-listers when they were picked for The X Factor panel but their personalities made the show what it was; they worked together. Dermot's biggest television gig was Big Brother's Little Brother. The show was allowed to grow organically. Same with Idol; Simon wasn't known in America before it's launch and Paula Abdul and Randy Jackson were hardly chart toppers but, again, they worked together. Since the shows have had to revamp their respective panels it's just been a cheap (well, expensive!) effort to keep the figures up.
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Old 16-02-2013, 10:10
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Interested to see how CBBC did from 5pm.
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Old 16-02-2013, 10:25
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Emmerdale - 6,800,717 (32.17%) +1 132,500 (0.58%)
Coronation Street - 8,707,300 (38.38%) +1 269,400 (1.12%)
Coronation Street - 8,380,260 (34.54%) +1 223,500 (1.0%)
EastEnders - 7,262,067 (12.59%)

Figures include HD
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Old 16-02-2013, 10:25
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Interested to see how CBBC did from 5pm.
CBBC
17:00 - The Dumping Ground: 428k (3.0%)
17:30 - 4 o'Clock Club: 311k (1.85%)
18:00 - Sam & Mark's Big Friday Wind Up: 207k (1.1%)
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Old 16-02-2013, 10:28
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CBBC
17:00 - The Dumping Ground: 428k (3.0%)
17:30 - 4 o'Clock Club: 311k (1.85%)
18:00 - Sam & Mark's Big Friday Wind Up: 207k (1.1%)
Thanks for that. A bit disappointed that The Dumping Ground dropped once again, it's not stabilizing is it? It's rather fluctuating around the 400-600k mark.

As for the others, pretty much around where I'd expect them to be.
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Old 16-02-2013, 10:29
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Emmerdale - 6,800,717 (32.17%) +1 132,500 (0.58%)
Coronation Street - 8,707,300 (38.38%) +1 269,400 (1.12%)
Coronation Street - 8,380,260 (34.54%) +1 223,500 (1.0%)
EastEnders - 7,262,067 (12.59%)

Figures include HD
That share must be a mistake.

How did the game shows do?
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