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Old 18-02-2013, 22:02
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Alan Titchmarsh "a daytime treat" ?

Yeah, if you're a female OAP maybe.

The suggested schedule isn't that different to what they do now. Same old sh!t different order. But the chances of them doing more news must be very very slim. This is an area which ITV has cut back more than most, with regional news now a shadow of its former self and no longer worth watching as far as Anglia News is concerned. If they can't be bothered to invest in one of their flagship bulletins at 6pm, you can forget the idea of further investment in the lunchtime national.
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Old 18-02-2013, 22:16
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Last 4 episodes of Blandings were pretty consistent at a bit under 4m. Episode 5 actually had 4.01m and episodes 5 and 6 did a bit better than episodes 3 and 4 (I'm talking here about overnights). Think it's probably done just enough for a recommission.
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Old 18-02-2013, 22:24
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A couple more before I go to bed:

Channel 4 (exc / inc +1)
09:30-12:00 - Sunday Brunch: 669k (8.3%) / 749k (9.3%)
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16:20 - Time Team: 923k (6.0%) / 1.04m (6.8%)

If anyone has any particular requests, let me know and I'll have a look tomorrow night.

Almost forgot - how is Got to Dance doing for it's live editions on Sky1?
The second live semi-final last night on Sky 1 achieved 702k (3.1%) inc +1, similar to last week's overnight of 719k (2.9%), which consolidated to 907k (3.6%).
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Old 18-02-2013, 22:29
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Old 18-02-2013, 22:29
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A couple more before I go to bed:

Channel 4 (exc / inc +1)
09:30-12:00 - Sunday Brunch: 669k (8.3%) / 749k (9.3%)
Still going well. And upped to 2.5hrs now I see, good news for that all important audience share on Sundays.

16:20 - Time Team: 923k (6.0%) / 1.04m (6.8%)
As is this, really. Above the channel average in a crappy slot. Shouldn't have been axed.
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Old 18-02-2013, 22:30
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Think id go for a sunday refresh

6.30pm countryfile
7.30pm doctor who series 7b
8.15pm the voice results
8.35pm bbc news
9.00pm shetland/white queen
10.00pm not going out/ heading out/ sarah millican/ graham norton
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Old 18-02-2013, 22:36
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A couple more before I go to bed:

Channel 4 (exc / inc +1)
09:30-12:00 - Sunday Brunch: 669k (8.3%) / 749k (9.3%)
Anyone know what the Hollyoaks omnibus was getting a year or so ago, and indeed what it's getting now on E4 where it does now at last seem to have moved to a more student friendly slot of around 10.15am each week.
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Old 18-02-2013, 22:38
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BBC One now running 5 minutes earlier than billed.

I hope we get ratings for all the many programmes that aired between 6am & 9:15pm and at 6:30pm today tomorrow.

06:00 BBC News with Gavin Grey
06:30 Bargain Hunt
07:00 BBC News with Gavin Grey
07:30 Escape to the Country
08:00 BBC News with Gavin Grey
08:30 Heir Hunters
09:15 As Billed
13:00 BBC News with Gavin Grey; Regional News
13:35 Nigel Slater's Simple Suppers
13:45 As Billed
18:00 BBC News with Chris Rogers; Regional News
18:30 Fake Britain
19:00 As Billed
22:00 BBC News with Chris Rogers; Regional News
22:30 Being Eileen
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Old 18-02-2013, 22:43
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Saturdays put some drama into the schedule as so much is produced right now

6.00pm I love my country
6.45pm the voice
8.00pm the national lottery draws
8.10pm case histories
9.10pm casualty (30 mins twice weekly self contained episodes fri and sat soap axe holby and put all resources into sharpening up casualty or visa versa with holby)
9.40pm bbc news
10.00 pm match of the day
11.00pm the white queen/shetland rpt
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Old 18-02-2013, 22:48
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The first battle round last night (which saw Kian put through a pregnant gypsy) scored 743k and 44%. The highest rating so far this series and the highest rating on Irish tv over the past week.


EastEnders airs it's misplaced Comic Relief episode Wednesday 6th March. I assume it'll be at 8/8:30, preferably 8:30 providing a good lead in to the penultimate Mayday which will face Lighfields. But with most programmes starting at 8pm, EE would be likely to rate poorly in that slot unless they aired Mayday at 8:30 and a comedy rpt. after it.

PS Thanks for the ratings Neil
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Old 18-02-2013, 22:50
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BBC One now running 5 minutes earlier than billed.

I hope we get ratings for all the many programmes that aired between 6am & 9:15pm and at 6:30pm today .
We definitely will. It will be interesting to see what kind of uplift ITV gets in those slots as well.
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Old 18-02-2013, 22:50
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The first battle round last night (which saw Kian put through a pregnant gypsy) scored 743k and 44%. The highest rating so far this series and the highest rating on Irish tv over the past week.


EastEnders airs it's misplaced Comic Relief episode Wednesday 6th March. I assume it'll be at 8/8:30, preferably 8:30 providing a good lead in to the penultimate Mayday which will face Lighfields. But with most programmes starting at 8pm, EE would be likely to rate poorly in that slot. Unless they aired Mayday at 8:30 and aired a comedy rpt. after it.

PS Thanks for the ratings Neil
I was only thinking today that the BBC should think about moving the Friday EastEnders to Wednesday 8pm and boost the night. Friday's would be a bit bare but they could always put the Wednesday schedule there instead.
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Old 18-02-2013, 23:05
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We definitely will. It will be interesting to see what kind of uplift ITV gets in those slots as well.
There should be an uplift at 6:30 but any uplift for Daybreak will be offset by a downlift due to it being half term. No doubt BBC1's schedule will still be way out in the lead.
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Old 18-02-2013, 23:46
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I was only thinking today that the BBC should think about moving the Friday EastEnders to Wednesday 8pm and boost the night. Friday's would be a bit bare but they could always put the Wednesday schedule there instead.
I agree, in fact I would make Friday a totally flexible night, removing the one show from the schedule aswelly. At the moment the one show is weakest on fridays(and most likely always has and always will be) Eastenders is also less popular.It would give BBC1 a night to show film premieres, or air longer dramas. Launch strictly, test out comedies.

I know the argument would be that shows would get lost without structure, but there would be structure, but a changing structure, like saturdays, and maybe eventually fridays will have structure, just different to the rest of the week.
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Old 19-02-2013, 00:24
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Just had a look at the BARB Top 30s for w/e 10th Feb. Dallas scored 1.22 million (against 1.24 million the week before) making it the 7th most watched show on Channel 5 that week. The decision to move it to a later slot seems even more bizarre, its clear the show has a huge timeshift audience.
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Old 19-02-2013, 00:30
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Those figures for Person Of Interest look stronger than I thought which is good.

Dallas seems to timeshift well. Still feel Dallas should be put on 5*, perhaps after American Idol on a Friday (American Idol I'm sure shows from 8pm - 9pm, which would lead Dallas to follow from 9pm - 10pm).
Its 2 weeks on the trot that Dallas time shifted 500,000 viewers and the final figures are just 20,000 down on the season premiere. Its the 7th most watched show on the network FFS and they just dumped it in a graveyard slot.

Clearly Dallas has a loyal audience, but not one that's willing to watch it live. It might have done better on the Beeb without the seemingly never ending adverts.
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Old 19-02-2013, 00:52
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Its 2 weeks on the trot that Dallas time shifted 500,000 viewers and the final figures are just 20,000 down on the season premiere. Its the 7th most watched show on the network FFS and they just dumped it in a graveyard slot.

Clearly Dallas has a loyal audience, but not one that's willing to watch it live. It might have done better on the Beeb without the seemingly never ending adverts.
Everything does better on the Beeb due to no adverts, why is this news to you? It would have been no more likely to be a hit, as the Beeb would have had higher expectations.

Big timeshifts are all well and good if there's a decent core audience there watching on broadcast. In Dallas' case there wasn't. And when you're a commercial network looking to sell adverting spots, that is very bad. Audience trends both here and elsewhere suggested it was only going one way.
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Old 19-02-2013, 01:07
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I agree, in fact I would make Friday a totally flexible night, removing the one show from the schedule aswelly. At the moment the one show is weakest on fridays(and most likely always has and always will be) Eastenders is also less popular.It would give BBC1 a night to show film premieres, or air longer dramas. Launch strictly, test out comedies.

I know the argument would be that shows would get lost without structure, but there would be structure, but a changing structure, like saturdays, and maybe eventually fridays will have structure, just different to the rest of the week.
Can I ask where are you getting all this for this?? Fantasy land is great.

Film premieres- apart from animations can you tell me what major film premieres the BBC have rights to? Are Sky/ITV/C4/C5 going to gift them their rights?
BTW moving drama money to Fridays? What are you going to commission to replace it from Sunday to Tuesday in the schedules. Extended Countryfile.
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Old 19-02-2013, 01:27
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Everything does better on the Beeb due to no adverts, why is this news to you? It would have been no more likely to be a hit, as the Beeb would have had higher expectations.

Big timeshifts are all well and good if there's a decent core audience there watching on broadcast. In Dallas' case there wasn't. And when you're a commercial network looking to sell adverting spots, that is very bad. Audience trends both here and elsewhere suggested it was only going one way.
The timeshift does suggest that maybe Channel 5 should have tried Dallas at 10pm rather than immediately shifting it to the graveyard slot. I can understand that they couldn't afford to have it hurting the 9pm slot but I can't see why they wanted to move it so late so soon, as it were.
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Old 19-02-2013, 01:41
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Can I ask where are you getting all this for this?? Fantasy land is great.

Film premieres- apart from animations can you tell me what major film premieres the BBC have rights to? Are Sky/ITV/C4/C5 going to gift them their rights?
BTW moving drama money to Fridays? What are you going to commission to replace it from Sunday to Tuesday in the schedules. Extended Countryfile.
Yeah I realise I'm living in a dream world, I was just getting a bit carried away...would be nice though
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Old 19-02-2013, 04:30
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There should be an uplift at 6:30 but any uplift for Daybreak will be offset by a downlift due to it being half term. No doubt BBC1's schedule will still be way out in the lead.
It's not half-term everywhere. Where I live it was half-term last week.
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Old 19-02-2013, 07:49
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Has anyone seen a BARB Top 50 for 2012 ? I have them for 2011 and 2010 which I think I got from the Broadcast web site but haven't seen one for 2012.
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Old 19-02-2013, 08:01
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Yeah I realise I'm living in a dream world, I was just getting a bit carried away...would be nice though
Same with me, it's my idea, of course they wouldn't do it...

I do think the network should unify all news output into one programme, and I also think regional news should be integrated into the main show.

I think Daybreak needs to go, and ITN could produce a better breakfast show in a news channel format.

And I think the soaps must return to Sunday night. Sunday is a night where viewers expect Corrie, Downton etc, lets face it, XF results need to be put back on Saturday, as does DOI full stop.

I've said this for years but undoing Simon Shaps's schedule revamp has got to be one of the biggest pieces of sh!t a network has ever had to get out of.

The schedule was just ideas, which I believe in, though it's typical some (not all) of the criticism has been rude! Instead of slagging it/me off why don't we have a discussion about things ITV CAN do to fix its schedule.

And saying "drop episodes of soap" "put on quality programmes" is in MY opinion a waste of discussion!

I'm talking where things could be moved to strengthen the schedule overall and through the day, and opening up logical slots for NEW shows. Under my plans there are openings at:

Weds 8pm hour
Thursday 8pm hour

Friday 8.30pm slot

For new shows. I'd aim for a mix of drama and comedy in these slots, all free of EastEnders clashes.

Problem areas are soap scheduling and breakfast.
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Old 19-02-2013, 08:48
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There should be an uplift at 6:30 but any uplift for Daybreak will be offset by a downlift due to it being half term. No doubt BBC1's schedule will still be way out in the lead.
I doubt BBC Breakfast will suffer very much as they provided a solid half-hour of news at 6,7 and 8 which is what viewers turn to the BBC for in the mornings.
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Old 19-02-2013, 08:51
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I think Daybreak needs to go, and ITN could produce a better breakfast show in a news channel format.
ITN already produce the news for Daybreak. I'm not sure moving the readers a mile and a half up the road from the South Bank to Grays Inn Road is going to solve their problems. Problem with breakfast seems to be the fragmentation of the commercial audience across multiple channels. Cant see it all coming back.
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