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Old 04-02-2013, 00:42
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I don't think they can win either way really. Takeaway was quite tired by the end so IMO really needs to essentially be a brand new show under the same format with completely new features (including a replacement for Win the Ads - which nowadays is probably Pay Day Loans and injury compensation!) but others will be disapointed if it returns without the features that made it in the first place.

I always felt they could have spun Ant vs Dec off into it's own show, pre-recording it and enabling them to do some pretty big stunts around the world, with or without celebrities.
I'd imagine Win The Ads will be back. Ant vs Dec is as well. They showed the first Undercover (pranking Simon Cowell on American Idol) and one of Little Ant & Dec's best interviews (with Victoria Beckham - she smiled!). But I'm not sure if that's an indication that those features will be back (obviously with a new Little Ant & Dec!).

It's a new production team as well. Ed Forsdick passed away, having Exec'd series 3 onwards. He'll be replaced by Richard Cowles, who has worked with Ant & Dec on I'm A Celebrity since it began. Pete Ogden, a Producer on Big Brother, X Factor and Ant & Dec's personal producer on the last series of BGT, will be Series Producer. The whole thing is now back to being an ITV Studios production rather than Gallowgate.

The problem is though that the BBC doesnt have any ideas for Light Entertainment other than(recently) Secret Service and Animal Antics- and Britains Brightest which for me doesnt qualify as LE as its too worthy and bland. In fact the BBC hasnt had an idea (other than SCD) which has been a hit worthy of the word since Noels House Party.
I dont imagine for a minute the BBC would have sanctioned the huge outlay if its own resource was churning out innovative formats and returnable hits. I reckon it was partly frustration that lead them to The Voice.
In fairness, Secret Service was from Endemol (co-created by Richard Hammond, apparently). Animal Antics was from Talkback TV - independent production company of the year.

It's not always an ideas issue. The BBC briefed specifically for that kind of show. In a meeting with dozens of development executives from production companies (it used to be available to watch online), they actually touted Animal Antics like it was what they wanted more of.

The issue with ideas probably lies more in the big scale 90 minute "tentpole" series for mid evening like Splash or The Voice. Those aren't coming through at the moment. But the early evening problem might just be a case of commissioners thinking the public want to watch these cheap clip shows when in fact, they don't.

The news being the highest rated show of the whole evening across both networks shows how britian feel about the shows. I wouldn't call splash a success. Its mediocre ratings at best and I learnt this week its a format from holland as charlie brooker summed it up completely as complete rubbish

I think that britians brighest needs shelved too.
It's the highest rating new Saturday night series on ITV1 for 5 years. It hasn't dropped below 5m all through its run and the finale peaked with 6.6m. It's probably doubling the slot average from last year when we had The Talent Show Story filling time on a low budget. In any other slot, we'd be calling it a success. Especially with the "right" audience.

Yes, it's a lot lower than Strictly, BGT and X Factor. But those shows aren't just successful, they're some of the biggest hits in the history of UK television.
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Old 04-02-2013, 00:50
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The Super Bowl wont be getting record ratings this year. The game is too one-sided atm and the two teams involved are from smaller markets, unlike last year. Play off games the last month have been rating worse than last year so dont expect any record 111million+ ratings tomorrow.
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Old 04-02-2013, 00:50
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I'm not sure if the Superbowl figures will be as high as last year; it's a walk over approaching half time.
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Old 04-02-2013, 01:07
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Will Beyonce and rumours of a Destiny's Child reunion not spike some yankee doodle interest?
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Old 04-02-2013, 01:15
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Talking of Noel earlier on here, it'll be a great jan battle the house party v takeaway. I would like to see the house party win, but not so sure it would!!
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Destiny's Child reunite at the Superbowl.

Viewers on Sky Sports 1 and BBC2 reminded that this is not ITV2's Big Reunion.
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Old 04-02-2013, 01:25
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Elementary should do 25m or so, CBS missed a trick not ordering an episode of The Big Bang Theory that could have aired after the Superbowl, that could've done over 40m,
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Old 04-02-2013, 01:39
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Superbowl - A 109 yard touchdown followed by a power outage. It may be one sided but it isn't boring. The outage may have boosted the ratings slightly as people tune back in to see what's going on.
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Old 04-02-2013, 01:43
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They really missed a trick not putting a new episode of The Big Bang Theory in the US. It managed to get 20m in an episode a few weeks ago, it could easily get 30m+ if it was on tonight. Remember when Friends went from being around 31m the week before and then managed 53m.
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Old 04-02-2013, 01:44
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Superbowl - A 109 yard touchdown followed by a power outage. It may be one sided but it isn't boring. The outage may have boosted the ratings slightly as people tune back in to see what's going on.
Indeed. Sky have been in and out of feed. Assuming the US commentators are out as Sky keep losing coverage and studio on site taking over
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Old 04-02-2013, 01:45
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Superbowl - A 109 yard touchdown followed by a power outage. It may be one sided but it isn't boring. The outage may have boosted the ratings slightly as people tune back in to see what's going on.
Terrible news for CBS. Not only is the game one sided, but every minute the power cut continues, the ratings will fall as people switch over to other channels. Expect worst Super Bowl ratings in at least half a decade and Elementary to get worst post Super Bowl ratings since Alias.
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CBS via Sky advised at least 15 minutes for 'the lighting to recycle'

Disastrous, still, it peaks at half time so at least Beyonce got on!
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Old 04-02-2013, 01:48
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Terrible news for CBS. Not only is the game one sided, but every minute the power cut continues, the ratings will fall as people switch over to other channels. Expect worst Super Bowl ratings in at least half a decade and Elementary to get worst post Super Bowl ratings since Alias.
Are Americans the same as us British in that they love watching a problem unfold? If so, there could be a boost. If not, as you say, viewers will float and this is a bit of a disaster for CBS.
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Are Americans the same as us British in that they love watching a problem unfold? If so, there could be a boost. If not, as you say, viewers will float and this is a bit of a disaster for CBS.
Probably

Sky have switched to full CBS coverage now despite using their studio before
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Old 04-02-2013, 01:52
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Are Americans the same as us British in that they love watching a problem unfold? If so, there could be a boost. If not, as you say, viewers will float and this is a bit of a disaster for CBS.
The blackout will cause ratings to go down, even if its by just a couple million. People watching animation reruns on FOX right now and repeats on other channels arent going to switch over to Super Bowl just to see a blackout and watching sports analysts talking about a sport which these non Super Bowl viewers hate. Some of the Super Bowl viewers who were watching will be tuning off as we speak because it is boring watching a blackout. And bad news for Elementary, not only is this game a complete blowout, but because of this delay Elementary will start very late which will hurt its ratings. CBS executives must be pissed off right now!
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Old 04-02-2013, 01:53
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Talking of Elementary the launch last night for Channel Ten would have been good news, 1.23m and over 700,000 of those in the 25-54 demo, so not elderly skewing. Masterchef also rose back up to 1.12m at 7.30pm, and won the 16-39 demo of the night, but only 3,000 ahead of Elementary. Modern Family and Bondi Rescue return next Sunday for Ten, but as does Downton forr Seven, and presumaby the cricket will still be on Nine, so harder competition next week. Graham Norton got 623,000 at 9.30 for Ten as well.

Nine News topped the night with 1.61m. Thhe cricket got 1.09m forNine. Seven saw Sunday night back 1.13m, followed by Border Security on 1.01m and The Force on 0.93m. ABC rushed the final two episdes of upstairs downstairs to conclusion last night with 0.65m and 0.57m, presumably to avoid Downton. They were due to return Call The Midwife later this month, but Midsommer Murders seems to be the replacement for now
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Old 04-02-2013, 01:54
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The blackout will cause ratings to go down, even if its by just a couple million. People watching animation reruns on FOX right now and repeats on other channels arent going to switch over to Super Bowl just to see a blackout and watching people talking about a sport which these non Super Bowl viewers hate. Some of the Super Bowl viewers will be tuning off as we speak. And bad news for Elementary, not only is this game a complete blowout, but because of this delay Elementary will start very late which will hurt its ratings. CBS executives must be pissed off right now.
Another reason why Big Bang Theory would have been a better bet - a half hour show wouldn't be hurt by a late start as much as an hour show. CBS couldn't have predicted a power cut but the game could have gone into overtime.

Imagine how late Elementary would come on if San Francisco came back and it did go into overtime.
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Is anyone else finding the CBS studio coverage terrible?

Makes MOTD seem fantastic
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Old 04-02-2013, 01:57
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Is anyone else finding the CBS studio coverage terrible?

Makes MOTD seem fantastic
Agreed, even the normally reliable Jim Nantz saying "the ball is ruled down" just before a fumble and a turnover.
When they're saying on CBS "I feel it's getting away from the 49ers" they might as well be saying 'I know they're getting stuffed 28-6, please don't leave us!'
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Agreed, even the normally reliable Jim Nantz saying "the ball is ruled down" just before a fumble and a turnover.
When they're saying on CBS "I feel it's getting away from the 49ers" they might as well be saying 'I know they're getting stuffed 28-6, please don't leave us!'
I had to laugh at CBS assuring viewers the power problem was 'electrical'

Sky seem to have given up on their studio, BBC have sadly returned to Chappers

Edit - Sky returned to studio
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Old 04-02-2013, 02:06
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Viewers in the US won't switch off the Super Bowl as nearly ever other channel is waving a white flag and showing repeats.

Elementary will be badly hit though as its going to start very late on the East Coast now. CBS will be absolutely fuming. There will be severe recriminations following this
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They said 15 minutes ages ago. Hell of a delay.
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Old 04-02-2013, 02:10
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Viewers in the US won't switch off the Super Bowl as nearly ever other channel is waving a white flag and showing repeats.

Elementary will be badly hit though as its going to start very late on the East Coast now. CBS will be absolutely fuming. There will be severe recriminations following this
If the game had gone into overtime Elementary would be on late, though. That's the risk they take with the post show programme.
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Old 04-02-2013, 02:11
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Sky Sports News presenter is unimpressed that Vernon Kay is an NFL pundit for Sky Sports (he does play American football though, I have no issue with it, unlike her)...

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Sky Sports News presenter is unimpressed that Vernon Kay is an NFL pundit for Sky Sports (he does play American football though, I have no issue with it, unlike her)...

https://twitter.com/HayleyMcQueen
Includes a go at Ben Sheperd too...

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