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Old 05-02-2013, 16:34
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Yes, but these are facts about an upturn in audience for an ITV programme, which has come with better scheduling of the show. But don't let facts like this get in the way of yet another random ITV rambling from Robbie.

You see, when BBC1 moved Countryfile from morning programming to primetime programming, as the audience increased, this was a stroke of genius from the then BBC1 controller of programming.

You've not been on this thread for long I see, but you will get used to these inconsistencies from our Robbie...
I have an awful feeling that promoting Countryfile was actually a Jay Hunt idea
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Old 05-02-2013, 17:43
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Demographic Information for BBC1 and ITV for Monday 28th January to Sunday 3rd February: http://i46.tinypic.com/ke92lv.jpg

Top programmes for the week among 18-49 year olds from that list (excludes soaps and news) were:

1. Miranda: 11.3
2. Mrs Brown's Boys: 10.2
3. Call The Midwife: 8.0
4. Splash!: 7.9
5. Take Me Out: 7.9
6. Six Nations: England v Scotland: 7.7
7. Dancing on Ice: 7.6
8. Africa: 7.4
9. The Jonathan Ross Show: 6.1
10. Ripper Street: 6.0

Note: Each number indicates the % of the UK 18-49 population. For e.g. 11.3% of 18-49 year olds living in the UK watched Miranda
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Old 05-02-2013, 18:05
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Thanks for all that data Rzt.

Looking at ITV key demos:

Entertainment - 16-34 Year Olds

Take Me Out - 7.4
Splash - 6.5
Dancing On Ice - 5.6
The Jonathan Ross Show - 5.1
All Star Family Fortunes - 4.7
DOI: Skate Off - 4.4
You've Been Framed - 3.5

Drama - ABC1 Adults

Lewis - 13.4
Mr Selfridge - 11.9
Midsomer Murders - 10.7

Jonathan Ross's audience profile is insanely good and would be for BBC1 let alone ITV. 27% 16-34 and 59% ABC1. Those are so high that even with his very modest overall figures he's doing enough to get by.

DOI on the other hand seems to be skewing older this year, almost as old as Strictly Come Dancing. Coupled with lower overall figures it's not a pretty picture. ABC1 ratings (where it ties Mr Selfridge for #2 on ITV) are looking comparatively better these days which is quite unusual for an entertainment show.

Great Night Out isn't delivering on any measure it seems.
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Old 05-02-2013, 18:18
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Irish drama import Jack Taylor confirmed for Thursday, February 21 at 9pm on C5. Up against new travelogue series Meet the Izzards on BBC1 and L'pool v Zenit on ITV.
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Old 05-02-2013, 18:32
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Channel 4's new drama series Complicit meanwhile starts Sunday, February 17 at 9pm. It means 4 out of the 5 terrestrial channels are airing new drama in that slot.
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Old 05-02-2013, 18:45
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Irish drama import Jack Taylor confirmed for Thursday, February 21 at 9pm on C5. Up against new travelogue series Meet the Izzards on BBC1 and L'pool v Zenit on ITV.
How long is each episode? I'm guessing its feature length, could do well against factual and football but 5 need to give it enough promotion and maybe have Iain Glen on the chatshow circuit,
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Old 05-02-2013, 18:49
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I really don't know why C4 haven't dumped Face the Clock yet. Yesterday:

Countdown 451k (6.1%)
Face the Clock 369k (4.3%)
Deal or No Deal 1.07m (9.3%)
Four in a Bed 1.15m (8%)
Come Dine with Me 1.15m (6.7%).
Share points are good for Countdown and DOND, but viewers numbers are not. Initially, Endemol put out a tweet (which they may now have removed) saying that The Common Denominator was meant to start on 4th February. Don't know why C4 decided not to keep this date, maybe giving Face the Clock a 'Last Chance Saloon' situation.

Brilliant numbers for the Richard III doc last night, although given the amount of news coverage yesterday, the figures aren't much of a surprise. Anyone know the share?

Could anyone provide the figures for C4 between 6pm-9pm for last night? Many thanks.
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Old 05-02-2013, 18:53
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Demographic Information for BBC1 and ITV for Monday 28th January to Sunday 3rd February: http://i46.tinypic.com/ke92lv.jpg

Top programmes for the week among 18-49 year olds from that list (excludes soaps and news) were:

1. Miranda: 11.3
2. Mrs Brown's Boys: 10.2
3. Call The Midwife: 8.0
4. Splash!: 7.9
5. Take Me Out: 7.9
6. Six Nations: England v Scotland: 7.7
7. Dancing on Ice: 7.6
8. Africa: 7.4
9. The Jonathan Ross Show: 6.1
10. Ripper Street: 6.0

Note: Each number indicates the % of the UK 18-49 population. For e.g. 11.3% of 18-49 year olds living in the UK watched Miranda
But I thought only old people watched BBC 1 on Sundays
5m!! ABC1's for Midwife too. No wonder ITV have commissioned 'Call the Gynecologists'

Thanks for the figures RZT
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Old 05-02-2013, 18:56
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How long is each episode? I'm guessing its feature length, could do well against factual and football but 5 need to give it enough promotion and maybe have Iain Glen on the chatshow circuit,
Yeah, it's feature-length. 1hr45m.

I'm delighted with the slot, every chance of doing well there. No drama competition and I don't think BBC1's new travel series is going to be up to much numbers wise.
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Old 05-02-2013, 18:57
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As no one has posted the US figures yet:

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...-solid/167899/

CBS win the night but perhaps might have hoped for more following all the Superbowl promos. 2 Broke Girls does appear to be a hit though.

no real shock the Following has dropped against aan all new CBS line up, but Fox will be hoping it stablises next week.
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Old 05-02-2013, 18:57
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Channel 4's new drama series Complicit meanwhile starts Sunday, February 17 at 9pm. It means 4 out of the 5 terrestrial channels are airing new drama in that slot.
As far as I know, Complicit is a one-off, 2 hour long drama. I have to say though, it does look very good from the promos.
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Old 05-02-2013, 18:59
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Asked this already - what did Disney Channel peak with yesterday and at what time (inc +1 would be preferable)?
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Old 05-02-2013, 19:01
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As far as I know, Complicit is a one-off, 2 hour long drama. I have to say though, it does look very good from the promos.
I think it has a very tough timeslot and I'm not entirely sure why they didn't wait until Ripper Street and Mr Selfridge finished their runs.
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Old 05-02-2013, 19:05
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Does anyone have ratings for Channel 5 all day yesterday?

Thanks.
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Old 05-02-2013, 19:07
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Yeah, it's feature-length. 1hr45m.

I'm delighted with the slot, every chance of doing well there. No drama competition and I don't think BBC1's new travel series is going to be up to much numbers wise.
I hope it does well as it'll give Channel 5 an ongoing non American drama. I guess they'll be involved in co-producing future episodes, I believe there are more in development.
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Old 05-02-2013, 19:45
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Demographic Information for BBC1 and ITV for Monday 28th January to Sunday 3rd February: http://i46.tinypic.com/ke92lv.jpg]
Question: Which channel had the three highest skews to the 65+ demo for programmes on that list?

Answer: ITV (Midsomer Murders: 52%, Great Houses: 50%, Lewis: 48%).

Countryfile was at a relatively youthful 43%, and was the second-oldest-skewing BBC One programme (going by 65+ skews), below In It to Win It (45%) and above Britain's Brightest (40%).
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Old 05-02-2013, 19:49
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Cohen's priorities should be to secure a 45 minute Miranda special and another McIntyre Comedy Roadshow to bookend the already confirmed MBB. With an EE lead in, Downton has no chance against that.

In return for delivering one special this year, he could give her until autumn 2014 to deliver series 4.
A 45 minute Miranda, a 60 minute Comedy Roadshow, a 60 minute Eastenders and a 30 minute Mrs Brown? How long are you expecting the Downton Christmas special to last?
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Old 05-02-2013, 20:04
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Great rating for Richard III - amazed really how the story has actually captured the publics imagination over the last couple of days, and these are the sort of documentaries C4 should be doing.

I really don't know why C4 haven't dumped Face the Clock yet. Yesterday:

Countdown 451k (6.1%)
Face the Clock 369k (4.3%)
Deal or No Deal 1.07m (9.3%)
Four in a Bed 1.15m (8%)
Come Dine with Me 1.15m (6.7%).
Because the idiots are running the asylum. We know Countdown would do better at 3.15pm, and as a result I suspect Deal would do a little bit better too. Moving Countdown half an hour earlier means that those who've stuck with it are probably now channel hopping at 3.30pm and not coming back to C4.


One bit of quick scheduling reaction C4 have made though is to extend The Last Leg from this Friday to 50 minutes, something I think the show really needs. Therefore Paddy's TV Guide airs at 10.20pm, and I guess everything after runs 20 minutes late.
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Old 05-02-2013, 20:12
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Outnumbered repeat flops with 3.6m and knocks MBB down to 6.43m

Stupid BSI, they should have worked out a better solution.
There was some sense behind this, though, in that it was the first time they'd showed Outnumbered since it got its record audience at Christmas, so maybe they thought a few million might not have seen it before. Clearly not, but not much you can do with half hour programmes in the 9pm hour these days.

Wonder if it'll be anything like that "Goodbye Pebble Mill" programme years ago.
Let's hope not, that was clearly an And Finally item on Midlands Today stretched way beyond its natural length. Possibly it'll be a re-edit of the excellent Tales from Television Centre off of last year on BBC4.

Why didn't BBC1 just move it to 9pm? Surely starting at that junction would have made more sense.
Not really, because whatever you gain from starting away from the junction you'll lose from viewers who rightly assume it would be on at 9.30 like every other episode. If the show you're pairing it with has one fewer episode then you're a bit limited.

Yes, but these are facts about an upturn in audience for an ITV programme, which has come with better scheduling of the show. But don't let facts like this get in the way of yet another random ITV rambling from Robbie.
Don't let the fact Robbie also slagged off BBC1 for poor scheduling of Outnumbered get in the way of yet another random slagging of Robbie. If people don't want him to slag off ITV so much, stop goading him so much.

Anyway, I didn't actully know what From The Heart was when I was talking about BBC1 at 9pm next week, but now I've seen it in the Radio Times, it sounds absolutely awful, it's a variety special promoting organ donation, so basically Text Santa again but in an hour.
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Old 05-02-2013, 20:14
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One bit of quick scheduling reaction C4 have made though is to extend The Last Leg from this Friday to 50 minutes, something I think the show really needs. Therefore Paddy's TV Guide airs at 10.20pm, and I guess everything after runs 20 minutes late.
That is probably the right decision, because as I said the other day by the time they've introduced the guest and the audience have stopped whooping at everything everyone says, it's almost time to go. It does send everything skee-wiff, though. And it still means there are two topical comedy shows right next to each other.
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Old 05-02-2013, 20:38
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What are we to make of the performance of the movie mix? I see it reached 2.25m individuals across week ending January 27, a new all-time high.

The numbers don't look bad at all to me at first glance considering it's a pretty obscure channel not part of a big family. Square 1 must be delighted, particularly given they don't appear to be spending anything on marketing at present. I didn't even know it existed on Freeview until listings for it popped up out of the blue on DigiGuide the other night. It broadcasts a decent number of US drama series and movies, with Sony providing the bulk of the content.

Top 10 Programmes
1 PEGGY SUE GOT MARRIED (FRI 2101) 86,000
2 STARSHIP TROOPERS 2 (SAT 2102) 78,000
3 STORM WARNING (FRI 1959) 69,000
4 TAILOR OF PANAMA (SUN 2101) 66,000
5 STARSHIP TROOPERS 2 (FRI 2302) 58,000
6 SWING VOTE (MON 1201) 53,000
7 STORM WARNING (TUE 2000) 51,000
8 STORM WARNING (THU 2000) 48,000
9 BAYWATCH (SAT 1242) 44,000
10 BLIND DATE (TUE 2101) 42,000
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Old 05-02-2013, 20:46
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January overnight averages for the Big Three:
Corrie: 9.16m
up 30k y-o-y

EastEnders: 8.27m
down 690k y-o-y

Emmerdale: 7.23m
down 330k y-o-y
Very good result for Corrie. It's been a strong month for the show and that's reflected in it being marginally up y-o-y.
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Old 05-02-2013, 21:28
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I think it has a very tough timeslot and I'm not entirely sure why they didn't wait until Ripper Street and Mr Selfridge finished their runs.
It certainly will be. Will watch and see with interest.

Great rating for Richard III - amazed really how the story has actually captured the publics imagination over the last couple of days, and these are the sort of documentaries C4 should be doing.


Because the idiots are running the asylum. We know Countdown would do better at 3.15pm, and as a result I suspect Deal would do a little bit better too. Moving Countdown half an hour earlier means that those who've stuck with it are probably now channel hopping at 3.30pm and not coming back to C4.


One bit of quick scheduling reaction C4 have made though is to extend The Last Leg from this Friday to 50 minutes, something I think the show really needs. Therefore Paddy's TV Guide airs at 10.20pm, and I guess everything after runs 20 minutes late.
I agree about the documentaries front. Capitalising on the day's big story was a coup and a half for C4. Didn't watch it, but i'll catch it on 4od.

Countdown needs to be moved. That needs to be done soon. In terms of channel hopping, it didn't happen for 1001 Things, so it might just be Face the Clock. Will be interesting to see how The Common Denominator does.

I applaud them on extending The Last Leg. Had to be done, although why 50mins and not 60mins, I do not know. They really should've kept 8 out of 10 Cats on Mondays, and did The Last Leg as a 60mins show on Fridays at 9pm. The 10.20pm slot for Paddy already looks slightly awkward.
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Old 05-02-2013, 21:49
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While I disagree with Robbie and think the show is doing fine , it should be noted that those ratings are for Wednesdays in April/May against The Apprentice and not Mondays in January with a lead in of nearly 10m from Corrie.

I think the show had better overnights on Sundays over the years and those ratings are slightly misleading for Lewis. The show only aired on Wednesday's for one series -2012 and that was only to dent the Apprentice.

But the facts are that it did do better in the overnights on Sundays which is mostly Robbie's point.
It is also worth remembering that last year Above Suspicion in the same slot currently occupied by Lewis was achieving similar ratings and is now axed.
The overnights for Series 5 (April 2011 on Sunday)
6.33m + 196
5.59m + 128
6.24m + 245
5.66m + 240

They are more or less at this season's levels. However, you are right that it used to perform better in the past.

The original comment talked about both Sunday and Wednesday. I agree that Sunday is the ideal slot for it as it has been its traditional home for years. I don't like the split in the 2 parts. However, Wednesday wasn't a good slot last year. They could have moved it to January and air as 2 hour movies on Wednesday instead of the 3 Midsomer episodes broadcast last month. However, I guess it would have meant MM being pushed to April/May (and I think MM would have suffered as much as Lewis did last year as it was already in a downturn spiral because of the erratic schedule ITV gave it).
I guess they are keeping Spring's Sunday nights (the traditional Lewis slot) available for Young Morse's series.
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Old 05-02-2013, 21:49
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Dallas drops again to a 0.6 in the demo, ouch!

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...s-more/168006/

"Monday Mornings" flopped as well.
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