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Old 22-01-2013, 17:37
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I of course understand that the pages in a digital version of a physical book aren't going to be exactly the same; but I find it a bit frustrating that in some cases there is a massive difference between them.

I am currently reading 11.22.63 by Stephen King on the Google Play e-reader app on my Nexus 7. The physical version has 700+ pages. The digital version I'm reading has something like 220 and it takes like 3 or 4 page turns to actually move to the 'next' page.

I'm just wondering if there is any way around this? I'd much rather turn from page 10 straight to page 11. Is there an app that can do this, or a plugin for the Google Play e-reader? Basically, I would like each digital page turn to be a new page in it's own right, rather than correspond to the physical version.
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Old 23-01-2013, 10:43
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Don't think the user can do anything with these settings, it is all defined on the published document.
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Old 23-01-2013, 13:18
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on the nexus 7 you can adjust text size and spacing which will adjust the number of pages in the ebook.

Not sure which you want though - your first sentence suggests you don't want a massive difference in the number of pages, and your last sentence suggests you don't want them to be the same either...
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Old 23-01-2013, 13:26
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on the nexus 7 you can adjust text size and spacing which will adjust the number of pages in the ebook.

Not sure which you want though - your first sentence suggests you don't want a massive difference in the number of pages, and your last sentence suggests you don't want them to be the same either...
Sorry for any confusion. In a nutshell, what I would like is the pages in digital versions to be completely independent from their physical counterparts. It seems this just isn't possible yet, though
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Old 23-01-2013, 14:00
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I use a Kindle (you could use the Kindle app) and they use 'locations' rather than pages.
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Old 23-01-2013, 19:20
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Sorry for any confusion. In a nutshell, what I would like is the pages in digital versions to be completely independent from their physical counterparts. It seems this just isn't possible yet, though
You want the numbers to be independent?

So they are exactly the same on the digital and paper versions? So its the same text at the top of page 100 on both as an example?
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Old 23-01-2013, 19:40
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I don't understand how a "real" book can have 700+ pages and the ebook version just 220.

Normally the ebook version would have far more pages due to the larger font and smaller page size.


"3 or 4 page turns to move to the next page"? is something I don't understand and is surely a problem with the ebook.

This is very confusing actually and does not make sense, normally the pages of an ebook are independent of it's physical counterpart.
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Old 23-01-2013, 19:55
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Ebooks use locations, they are not page oriented, unless you read PDF files. But, you can have page numbers. MOBI files (Kindle) can be authored to contain page markers using an existing print version. They say, e.g, page 10 is from a location 100 to 110. In that case you can see on what physical page in a book you are, but depending on a font, spacing, screen size etc it may take several electronic page turns to go from one physical page to another. It's not desirable to have them 1:1, page numbers are there only as an addition. I guess epub is similar in that. If you have page numbers and they do not match, it means a different paper edition than the one you have might have been used to create them. Or they are just wrong and you can't do anything about it. It's a new thing, maybe the author of the ebook did not create the page numbers correctly. It's not something that is obvious to be wrong, so maybe nobody noticed.
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Old 23-01-2013, 21:22
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I use a Kindle (you could use the Kindle app) and they use 'locations' rather than pages.
Kindle books tell you actual page number too, which is handy for people in book clubs.
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Old 23-01-2013, 22:03
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Kindle books tell you actual page number too, which is handy for people in book clubs.
I'm still unclear which way round the OP has a problem.

Do they want correlating numbers or not?
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Old 23-01-2013, 23:03
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Bizarrely enough I came across this in the exact same circumstances as the OP last October - the novel 11.22.63 from Play Books on a Nexus 7! Enjoyable book, though not one of King's finest.

Anyhow, my issue was that the page numbers on the eBook were meaningless. It claimed to be 220 pages or whatever, compared to the print version of 700+, yet "page 44" for instance spanned about three or four virtual pages. It would make more sense to me if each virtual page turn constituted a "page", and the total number of pages varied with the size of font and appropriate repagination. I think this is what the OP's issue is, too.

On the flip side, I could also cope if the "virtual" page numbers corresponded to the page numbers of the physical, printed book - eg. if "page 44" spans three virtual pages, but in reality fitted on one page in print. But this isn't true either given that the print version has three times the number of pages as the virtual one! So the page numbers in the Books app are just (seemingly) arbitrary, and as such are utterly useless - you can't marry them to the print version, you can't marry them to the virtual version, so they're pointless. A percentage progress or similar (like the Kindle app) would be much more useful.
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Old 24-01-2013, 00:29
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Bizarrely enough I came across this in the exact same circumstances as the OP last October - the novel 11.22.63 from Play Books on a Nexus 7! Enjoyable book, though not one of King's finest.

Anyhow, my issue was that the page numbers on the eBook were meaningless. It claimed to be 220 pages or whatever, compared to the print version of 700+, yet "page 44" for instance spanned about three or four virtual pages. It would make more sense to me if each virtual page turn constituted a "page", and the total number of pages varied with the size of font and appropriate repagination. I think this is what the OP's issue is, too.

On the flip side, I could also cope if the "virtual" page numbers corresponded to the page numbers of the physical, printed book - eg. if "page 44" spans three virtual pages, but in reality fitted on one page in print. But this isn't true either given that the print version has three times the number of pages as the virtual one! So the page numbers in the Books app are just (seemingly) arbitrary, and as such are utterly useless - you can't marry them to the print version, you can't marry them to the virtual version, so they're pointless. A percentage progress or similar (like the Kindle app) would be much more useful.
Yes, that is indeed my frustration with this particular book. Glad I'm not the only one that finds it frustrating I have used the Kindle app before, and I much prefer the overall feel of the Google Play e-reader app.

When I said I wanted the page numbers in a digital version of a book to be 'independent', I simply mean it in the sense that you turn from page 7 to 8, page 25 to 26 regardless of how it compares to the physical version.

This is only the second book I have read on the Nexus 7; and although in the first one I sometimes had to turn 2 pages to get to the 'next' page, the issue is significantly more prevalent with this particular book.

I suppose I would like to see some kind of 'conversion' process where no matter how big you have the font, how much line spacing etc, when you turn a page you move to the next one, numerically speaking. Maybe in the future, I've got my fingers crossed
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Old 24-01-2013, 03:35
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^^^ Why would you want that? Such a page is completely meaningless. You set some huge font with a big spacing to fit a couple of words on screen and you'd get thousands of "pages". A page for an e-book is there for the reader's convenience to be able to synchronise for whatever reason with a printed edition. You have a location m of n and a percentage, those are measures that make sense when reading a continuos stream of text.
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Old 24-01-2013, 17:10
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I use Moon+ reader pro to read books in epub format. This app numbers each virtual page. Thus each time I turn a virtual page, the page number goes up by one. Thus if I used a font of size 10, a chapter will be shown as 20 pages long for example. If I increase the font the chapter will 'increase' to 24 pages for example. If I was decrease the font size, the chapter will now have 18 pages.

I doubt very much if the pages in an ebook will match the pages in a hardcopy. Due to the user being able to specify al-sorts of parameters when reading an electronic version. For me it doesnt matter, if the ebook pages dont match the hardcopy.
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Old 24-01-2013, 17:28
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Kindle pages if present match pages of a paper edition. But it's a question how they are implemented and some readers may use other approaches. If the resizing means renumbering, it requires rescanning the book. Or just have a guess. IMO it does not make sense.
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