4G Mobile Phone Network Auction Is Now Underway

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legends wear 7

23-01-2013

Originally Posted by DevonBloke:
“Afraid Lucan is right though. Nearly all the EE 2G refresh upgrades have required planning. You only need to do a search of the council planning websites for the acttive towns and cities to see them.
And in most cases the cabs are smaller I believe. Vodafone would also be changing antennas and probably upgrading microwave dishes. These nearly always need planning. The planning sites in Devon are littered with antenna replacements over the years. I don't mean for LTE I just mean generally for all networks going back 10 years or so.”

I dont know what EE have been doing, but for sure you do not need to go to planning to upgrade a cell site unless you are building more cabinet space, changin height of mast, putting up more antenna's etc.

one antenna down, one up
one cab out one cab in

does not require planning permission.

DD_nVidia

23-01-2013

Originally Posted by legends wear 7:
“Only its not theory, they have actually acheived it.”

Yeah, but not "real" world speeds. Lab "real" world sure.

And that's using MIMO and mulitple big chunks of spectrum haha! But fair play, it's awesome though! I'd settle for 100Mbit which should be doable over 10Mhz chunks if they can get nearly 250 on 20Mhz today.

legends wear 7

23-01-2013

Originally Posted by DD_nVidia:
“Yeah, but not "real" world speeds. Lab "real" world sure.

And that's using MIMO and mulitple big chunks of spectrum haha! But fair play, it's awesome though! I'd settle for 100Mbit which should be doable over 10Mhz chunks if they can get nearly 250 on 20Mhz today.”

20 years ago getting more than 100kbps would seem far fetched, see no reason why we wont be seeing this lab result in commercial use within the next 20 years.

DevonBloke

24-01-2013

Well today my local council has at last updated mobile planning for 2012-2013.
EE are going proper bonkers mental. There's some 62 sites listed! That must be pretty much every cell in the Area.
All the ones I can think of are on there including all the old Orange 2G sites. All the ones around me are there.
My local cell has two entries.
Exciting stuff indeed.

Lucan, this bears out what you said about those really old Orange coverage maps. If these plans are for LTE then as you said by the end of the year coverage will mirror the 1995 map with Plymouth and Exeter being covered and of course me in between. Cool!

Vodafone have 17 and O2 have 16 on the planning by the way.

The Lord Lucan

24-01-2013

Add that into the EE sites already done or approved..
O2/Voda are only just starting to ramp up applications. Takes about 6 (rush) months to 9 months (average) from the planning application being made to the mast operating new the tech.

I just had a look at the new planning apps for this month and it seems there is a few from the Voda/O2 consolidation..not a large number at all and it's only recent that thry have started to appear. EE's are from over a year ago, the planning apps from EE are growing in number every month much like Devons. A quick check in other cities confirms the same. EE/MBNL's refresh/3G/4G is out numbering them something silly.

This is what O2/Voda Cornerstone applications generally look like:

"Proposal Replace the existing 6no. rooftop mounted O2 dual band antennas with 6no. Multiband antennas for both Vodafone and Telefonica with associated equipment cabinets and ancillary development thereto."

Showing that you do indeed need planning permission for what you suggested.

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