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Old 24-01-2013, 08:12
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What a putrid game football has become when even the ball boys set out to cheat and waste time.

The game is rotten from top to bottom. Through to its very core.

Alan Smith was the voice of reason tonight. Good on him.
Time wasting has gone on for decades - home ball boys included. If the score and fixture were reversed there is no way that Chelsea players and probably ball boys would have not wasted time.
The ball boy in this case may have been wasting time but that is no excuse to try kicking the ball out from under him (and I'm being generous to Hazard as, whilst I think he had no intention of kicking the ball boy, his actions made it likely he would make some contact with the body not just the ball). In law however, intention is only half a crime, you can b accused for "reckless" behaviour.
It is reported this morning that the ball boy/man has made no complaint after being interviewed by the police.
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Old 24-01-2013, 08:14
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The point is he kicked out recklessly hence a derserved red card and 3 match ban.

It doesn't however constitute a violent assault. This is where it gets ridiculous.
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Old 24-01-2013, 08:16
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This incident is only as big as the media and public want to make it.

Its actually been completely resolved, so while its fine to discuss it of course, theres no need for further action.

Ball boy was in the wrong he got a boot in the ribs for his trouble and had to apologise.

Hazard was in the wrong he got a red card and (hopefully) a standard ban for his trouble and had to apologise.

Both parties accepted the others apologies.

That should be the close of the matter. Sometimes people make errors and act in the heat of the moment but that doesnt automatically mean there has to be an international incident no matter how much the media want there to be. The initial tweet aside both clubs seem to have dealt with it pretty well, especially Bentiez and Laudrup in the post match TV interview when it would have been dead easy to make the situation worse.
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Old 24-01-2013, 08:20
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but that doesnt automatically mean there has to be an international incident no matter how much the media want there to be. The initial tweet aside both clubs seem to have dealt with it pretty well, especially Bentiez and Laudrup in the post match TV interview when it would have been dead easy to make the situation worse.
Says the man whose moniker represents the idol whose actions on a pitch in South London reverberated around the globe.
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Old 24-01-2013, 08:21
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The point is he kicked out recklessly hence a derserved red card and 3 match ban.

It doesn't however constitute a violent assault. This is where it gets ridiculous.
is that double dutch or what !!!
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Old 24-01-2013, 08:22
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It is reported this morning that the ball boy/man has made no complaint after being interviewed by the police.
He's actually apologised.
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Old 24-01-2013, 08:25
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Daybreak have sent their reporter to the ball boys house.

"the ballboy appeared to be writhing in agony"

FFS.
& there headline banner was
ATTACK ON BALLBALL

FFS
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Old 24-01-2013, 08:29
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Maybe the plod will be keeping an eye open for 17 yr old "King of the Ballboys" Charlie Morgan now that his drunken evening escapades have been made public knowledge on twitter ........

.........nice car


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Old 24-01-2013, 08:30
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This incident is only as big as the media and public want to make it.

Its actually been completely resolved, so while its fine to discuss it of course, theres no need for further action.

Ball boy was in the wrong he got a boot in the ribs for his trouble and had to apologise.

Hazard was in the wrong he got a red card and (hopefully) a standard ban for his trouble and had to apologise.

Both parties accepted the others apologies.

That should be the close of the matter. Sometimes people make errors and act in the heat of the moment but that doesnt automatically mean there has to be an international incident no matter how much the media want there to be. The initial tweet aside both clubs seem to have dealt with it pretty well, especially Bentiez and Laudrup in the post match TV interview when it would have been dead easy to make the situation worse.
^^^^ This
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Old 24-01-2013, 08:40
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The stupid ball boy deserved a good kicking imo. He tried to keep the ball out of play for as long as possible in an attempt to influence the result.
He was the one who deserved the red card.
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Old 24-01-2013, 08:40
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How the other half live eh !


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Old 24-01-2013, 08:40
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Is the ballboy within the referees jurisdiction?
I would doubt it, but it would be a good idea to make the change. I appreciate the ref might have a lot on his plate in a cup tie situation where one team is trying desperately to get a breakthrough, but I would also think that it would be fairly obvious if intervention was needed with the ballboys.
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Old 24-01-2013, 08:42
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is that double dutch or what !!!
The double Dutch seems to be coming from you.
They are two totally seperate definable acts. Kicking out recklessly is certain not an automatic instance of violent assault.
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Old 24-01-2013, 08:52
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The stupid ball boy deserved a good kicking imo. He tried to keep the ball out of play for as long as possible in an attempt to influence the result.
He was the one who deserved the red card.
You're on a wind-up, aren't you? Please tell me you're on a wind-up?
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Old 24-01-2013, 09:10
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It still doesn`t excuse a millionaire soccer player kicking him in the stomach though.
In what possible world does Hazard's salary have any relevance? You're getting increasingly ridiculous with this, as shown by:

Chelsea fans would have been supporting Jimmy Saville if he was an employee of Abramovich.
So is this just an anti-Chelsea thing for you?
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Old 24-01-2013, 09:14
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You're on a wind-up, aren't you? Please tell me you're on a wind-up?
No, not at all. He was cheating and deserved a kicking. Apparently he Tweeted before the match that he would do this if given the chance. So he planned his cheating before the match. And he is a seventeen year old, not a 'little boy' as some have tried to portray him.
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Old 24-01-2013, 09:17
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No, not at all. He was cheating and deserved a kicking.
Wow. So if a Swansea player had kicked Ba in the first half after he dived, as that is cheating, that would have been ok too?
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Old 24-01-2013, 09:19
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IRRELEVANT whether the ball boy was "wasting time" or whatever ..... as a professional eden hazard should have known better!

a BLATANT KICK to the boy's ribs!

despicable actions
are you actually saying that hazard kicked out at this person deliberately?

If so, i think you should contact the police, and your lawyer as you may need one.
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Old 24-01-2013, 09:21
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Wow. So if a Swansea player had kicked Ba in the first half after he dived, as that is cheating, that would have been ok too?
No - a player can be red-carded for diving. That's his punishment. A ball boy cannot be given a red card, so another punishment was in order. Actually I reckon the player was just trying to kick the ball out of the ball boy's clutches.
If the player had not kicked him, the ball boy's cheating would have gone unremarked and he would have got clean away with his unsportsmanlike behaviour.
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Old 24-01-2013, 09:23
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are you actually saying that hazard kicked out at this person deliberately?

If so, i think you should contact the police, and your lawyer as you may need one.
Yep because Eden Hazard reads ds and is going to definitely take action against anyone who said this!

It's their opinion. They are entitled to it.
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Old 24-01-2013, 09:25
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Im not loving the headline in the daily mail

"Football's fresh shame: Shocking moment 170,000-a-week Chelsea star kicked time-wasting BALLBOY, 17, in the ribs"

I love the way they try and guess the wages of the player, without saying that the family of the official ball-retriever probably has more money than Hazard!

Anyway, here is the pic that accompanies the story on the front page:

http://i.mol.im/i/pix/2013/01/24/art...58_308x401.jpg

Somehow it is a still that seems to show Hazard stamping on the head of the official!

It looks like the Leveson inquiry has taught our media absolutely nothing.
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Old 24-01-2013, 09:27
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are you actually saying that hazard kicked out at this person deliberately?

If so, i think you should contact the police, and your lawyer as you may need one.

He did and I think he wanted to kill the poor little ball boy.
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Old 24-01-2013, 09:31
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Wow, I was dreading coming on here but this thread isn't as bad as I thought it was, common sense does indeed prevail it seems!

First of all, I would like to congratulate Swansea on getting to the final, well deserved, we deserved absolutely nothing out of the game.


Right, Eden Hazard.

The red card was justified

The ball boy was an annoying little sod, I know ball boys are probably told not to rush back with the ball if they are winning, but hiding it and then rolling around and signalling the ref...stopping...and then rolling around again...it make me chuckle a bit watching it, cheeky little sod!

Going on what I have seen of Eden Hazard since he has joined Chelsea, he has shown no signs of being an aggressive player, he was frustrated and wanted that ball back, but it was idiotic and there was only going to be one outcome.

Good to see ball boy and dad were invited to dressing room, apologies were made, no-one is taking anything further.


But seriously, some of the things I heard last night on Talksport (I know, my fault!) and twitter...you would have thought Operation Yewtree was involved. I know it's because it's Chelsea it gets amplified, I get that, but to say and print a grown man has abused a child...brutality....assault etc....is just not on.
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Old 24-01-2013, 09:31
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Bringing up his salary is the usual spin, but prompts the question whether it would suddenly be ok if it was a part-time non-league player who did it? If not it's the usual 'aren't professional footballers all terrible, with their money and cars'
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Old 24-01-2013, 09:36
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New FA Campaign alert .....
Kick Children out of Football.
I thank you.
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