[SJFerrol]

The National Television awards are truly awful the music cues are off and the award presenters are crap! Now I know it's older but look at the Golden Globes better cues and it doesn't look cheap.


My question is why don't British award shows try to look prestigious? The Bafta's the second most important award ( I'd say ) after The Oscars yet that it self looks cheap, especially when you have orange in the title and that awfully small stage which proceedings take place on there is no glitz and glamour like The Oscars it's a shame!

[hallc]

My guess is...It,s on itv...

[don roberto]

Yes I agree, ITV are cr*p at such productions!

[Joe_Zel]

Because a show that mainly focuses on reality shows and soaps isn't prestigious.

The US has a larger pool of quality shows to focus an entire awards ceremony on that deserve it.

I can't think of many large award shows over there that celebrate shows like Towie (which won a bloody Bafta! ).

[degsyhufc]

Not sure if the BAFTAs are sticking with prestige to keep up with the OSCARs but I find the more laid back ceremonies much better.

The ones with tables around the room, alcohol, presenters having a laugh and joke.

Not stuck in a stuffy theatre.

[penelopesimpson]

Only catching the last thirty minutes but it is dire. Where is it coming from - an aircraft hangar? A more intimate venue would surely make for better television. Sound quality is awful and all these hangers-on lumbering on stage and sending messages to their relatives - who in the name of heaven thinks this makes an entertainment show? Even Dermot is off colour.

[pikeur]

The audience are also letting the show down, outside the soap category awards they seemed to lazy to cheer.

[degsyhufc]

Originally Posted by penelopesimpson

Only catching the last thirty minutes but it is dire. Where is it coming from - an aircraft hangar? A more intimate venue would surely make for better television. Sound quality is awful and all these hangers-on lumbering on stage and sending messages to their relatives - who in the name of heaven thinks this makes an entertainment show? Even Dermot is off colour.

There was a bit on QI about the Ignoble awards.

During the acceptance speech after a minute a little girl comes on stage and just keeps repeating "stop it, i'm bored" forcing the people to stop their speech and **** off off the stage

Googled it
https://www.google.co.uk/search?sour...w=1123&bih=682

[JVS]

Dermot O'Leary must have been surprised to get the gig, he's come a long way with little talent. Somebody funny would have been better - I wonder why Alan Carr or Graham Norton are never offered the job

[Joe_Zel]

Originally Posted by JVS

Dermot O'Leary must have been surprised to get the gig, he's come a long way with little talent. Somebody funny would have been better - I wonder why Alan Carr or Graham Norton are never offered the job

Maybe they're tied to the BBC and channel 4. Doubt they'd be allowed.

[rfonzo]

I think Dermot O Leary has gone down like a lead balloon. His jokes have been awfully timed. Especially when he was trying to link certain members of the audience and image of them being 18 with the award shows 18th Birthday. The atmosphere was a bit stiff and I am not whether they felt they had to laugh.

[rmwebs]

Because its:

A) Produced by ITV
and
B) Does not feature a single celebrity. Seriously look at tonight. Other than the likes of Lumley, The Osmands and McFly they were all a bunch of nobodys. A person on a soap is not a celebrity. They are a 'TV Star'.

Then you've got the fact that they rammed the ITV/Syco junk down our throats, etc.

Then theres the voting which you have to pay to do - so nobody bothers.

It's the same boring crap, just a different day. The same annoying people (e.g Dermot, Ant & Dec, etc), 'amazing' features all with X-Factor failures, etc.

[degsyhufc]

Originally Posted by rfonzo

I think Dermot O Leary has gone down like a lead balloon. His jokes have been awfully timed. Especially when he was trying to link certain members of the audience and image of them being 18 with the award shows 18th Birthday. The atmosphere was a bit stiff and I am not whether they felt they had to laugh.

What's so special about an 18th birthday for an awards show?

[wolfticket]

US awards shows don't look so cheap primarily because they are actually massively more expensive. It's difficult to fake high production values if the money isn't there.

[C14E]

Originally Posted by SJFerrol

The National Television awards are truly awful the music cues are off and the award presenters are crap! Now I know it's older but look at the Golden Globes better cues and it doesn't look cheap.


My question is why don't British award shows try to look prestigious? The Bafta's the second most important award ( I'd say ) after The Oscars yet that it self looks cheap, especially when you have orange in the title and that awfully small stage which proceedings take place on there is no glitz and glamour like The Oscars it's a shame!

There is plenty of contempt for awards ceremonies in the US. The Oscars are notorious for being dull, having terrible jokes, dreadful hosts and awarding only films nobody ever goes to see. Nikki Finke's Deadline Hollywood live blog of the Golden Globes is often worth a read if only to see her tear apart the whole charade. Sure, they all dress up and it all looks very good, but everyone knows it's a sham. Unlike the UK, the awards season is an industry in itself in Los Angeles. Executives spend more time campaigning than they do making films in January!

There's just a different culture in the UK. We don't watch stuffy awards shows just to see the stars - we have Royal Weddings for that! The BAFTA's are the most "professional" and have been known to draw some proper stars but don't rate as well as the NTA's. There's just not the same hooplah around industry awards over here. The ratings suggest that the public favour light hearted awards that honour shows they actually watch.

Originally Posted by rmwebs

Because its:

A) Produced by ITV
and

As far as I'm aware it's produced by Indigo Television.

B) Does not feature a single celebrity. Seriously look at tonight. Other than the likes of Lumley, The Osmands and McFly they were all a bunch of nobodys. A person on a soap is not a celebrity. They are a 'TV Star'.

Aren't TV stars what you'd expect to see at the National TELEVISION Awards?

[windowseat]

Half of the nominees didn't turn up.
Don't think Benedict Cumberbatch was there so thank goodness he didn't win.

I was really pleased Miranda Hart didn't turn up....her an actress? I don't think so. It didn't say much for the other nominations.

[Andy23]

Because it's the national TV awards for UK audiences only. the award shows that it is being compared to are worldwide major events for a worldwide film industry.

[zx50]

Liked it when David Witts pulled some of the audience up over being rude when they started booing.

[Shappy]

Nigel Havers's "joke" about poshing up Corrie sounded really up himself.

[harrypalmer]

How come... not 'how comes'

[harrypalmer]

Originally Posted by windowseat

I was really pleased Miranda Hart didn't turn up....her an actress? I don't think so. It didn't say much for the other nominations.

Well she is an actress. Maybe one you don't like, but she is. That's why she was hired for things like Not Going Out and Call the Midwife.

It tells me she must have an agent and maybe a contract and goes to auditions and gets cast, then gets paid for learning her lines and performing them. Actress I'd say.

[Creamtea]

Originally Posted by rmwebs

Because its:

A) Produced by ITV
and
B) Does not feature a single celebrity. Seriously look at tonight. Other than the likes of Lumley, The Osmands and McFly they were all a bunch of nobodys. A person on a soap is not a celebrity. They are a 'TV Star'.

Then you've got the fact that they rammed the ITV/Syco junk down our throats, etc.

Then theres the voting which you have to pay to do - so nobody bothers.

It's the same boring crap, just a different day. The same annoying people (e.g Dermot, Ant & Dec, etc), 'amazing' features all with X-Factor failures, etc.

They are HARDLY Superstars, lol!!!!

[Creamtea]

Originally Posted by Shappy

Nigel Havers's "joke" about poshing up Corrie sounded really up himself.

Dis you see him on IACGMOOH? He was up himself on that.

[lundavra]

Originally Posted by SJFerrol

The National Television awards are truly awful the music cues are off and the award presenters are crap! Now I know it's older but look at the Golden Globes better cues and it doesn't look cheap.


My question is why don't British award shows try to look prestigious? The Bafta's the second most important award ( I'd say ) after The Oscars yet that it self looks cheap, especially when you have orange in the title and that awfully small stage which proceedings take place on there is no glitz and glamour like The Oscars it's a shame!

Doesn't that apply to all award shows?

The Oscars has been pretty awful any time that I have seen it - never had the patience to watch more than part.

[Reality Rose]

I've just come back from being in the audience and the show seemed quite well organised from my perceptive, although it'll be interesting to see how it played out tv wise as the constant ad breaks just drained the whole atmosphere quite dramatically on several occasions.